1984 07 10 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING CaiMISSION - CITY OF LA QUINTA
A Regular Meeting Held at the La Quinta
City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta,
California
July 10, 1984
1. CALL TO ORDER
7:00 p.m.
APPROVED
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BY
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A. Chairman Klimkiewicz called the Planning Commission meeting to order
at 7:00 p.m. He then called upon Commissioner Salas to lead the flag
salute.
2. ROLL CALL
A. Chairman Klimkiewicz requested the roll call. The Secretary called
the roll:
Present: Commissioners Goetcheus, Salas, Thornburgh, Walling and
Chairman Klimkiewicz
Absent: None
Also present were Planning Director Lawrence L. Stevens, Principal
Planner Sandra L. Bonner and Secretary Donna Velotta.
Before the hearings began, Chairman Klimkiewicz announced that the elections
for a new Chairman and Vice Chairman for the 1984/85 term would take place.
Chairman Klimkiewicz opened nominations for the office of Chairman of the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Goetcheus nominated Ton Thornburgh for this off ice . Chairman
Klimkiewicz called for any further nominations and as there were none, he
closed the nominations. for office of Chairman.
Chairman Klimkiewicz then called for a vote. By voice vote, there were five (5)
ayes, unanimously electing Ton Thornburgh as Planning Commission Chairman for
the 1984/85 term.
Chairman Klimkiewicz opened nominations for the office of Vice Chairman of the
Planning Commission.
Chairman Klimkiewicz nominated Juan Salas for this office. He then called for
any further nominations, and as there were none, he closed the nominations for
the office of Vice Chairman.
Chairman Klimkiewicz then called for a vote. By voice vote, there were five (5)
ayes, unanimously electing Juan Salas as Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission
for the 1984/85 term.
At this point, past Chairman Klimkiewicz turned the meeting over to our new
Chairman, Ton Thornburgh.
3. HEARINGS
Chairman Thornburgh advised all present that the first two hearings were
regarding the same planned residential development project and therefore would
be heard concurrently as follows:
A. Tentative Tract Map No. 20158, Amended No. 1, a request for approval of
a 54-unit, planned residential development on 8.69 acres, located at the
northwest corner of Washington Street and. the La Quinta Stormwater Channel;
Jack L. Clark Enterprises, Applicant.
B. Variance Case No. 84-002, a request to allow patio covers to encroach into
the 10-foot required rear yard in a planned residential development, located
at the northwest corner of Washington Street and the La Quinta Stozmwater
Channel; Jack L. Clark Enterprises, Applicant.
Chairman Thornburgh then called for the staff report.
MINUTES
PLANNING CUIMISSION - CITY OF LA QUINTA
A Regular Meeting Held at the La Quinta
City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta,
California
July 10, 1984
1. CALL TO ORDER
7:00 p.m.
APPROVED
U1 QU A PUINNIN OMMISSION
BY ��.
D AT Q
A. Chairman Klimkiewicz called the Planning Commission meeting to order
at 7:00 p.m. He then called upon Commissioner Salas to lead the flag
salute.
2. ROLL CALL
A. Chairman Klimkiewicz requested the roll call. The Secretary called
the roll:
Present: Commissioners Goetcheus, Salas, Thornburgh, Walling and
Chairman Klimkiewicz
Absent: None
Also present were Planning Director Lawrence L. Stevens, Principal
Planner Sandra L. Bonner and Secretary Donna Velotta.
Before the hearings began, Chairman Klimkiewicz announced that the elections
for a new Chairman and Vice Chairman for the 1984/85 term would take place.
Chairman Klimkiewicz opened nominations for the office of Chairman of the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Goetcheus nominated Tom Thornburgh for this office. Chairman
Klimkiewicz called for any further nominations and as there were none, he
closed the noninations.for office of Chairman.
Chairman Klimkiewicz then called for a vote. By voice vote, there were five (5)
ayes, unanimously electing Toms Thornburgh as Planning Commission Chairman for
the 1984/85 tern.
Chairman Klimkiewicz opened nominations for the office of Vice Chairman of the
Planning Commission.
Chairman Klimkiewicz nominated Juan Salas for this office. He then called for
any further nominations, and as there were none, he closed the nominations for
the office of Vice Chairman.
Chairman Klimkiewicz then called for a vote. By voice vote, there were five (5)
ayes, unanimously electing Juan Salas as Vice Chairman of the Planning Conuuission
for the 1984/85 tern.
At this point, past Chairman Klimkiewicz turned the meeting over to our new
Chairman, Ton Thornburgh.
3. HEARINGS
Chairman Thornburgh advised all present that the first two hearings were
regarding the same planned residential development project and therefore would
be heard concurrently as follows:
A. Tentative Tract Map No. 20158, Amended No. 1, a request for approval of
a 54-unit, planned residential development on 8.69 acres, located at the
northwest corner of Washington Street and. the La Quinta Stormwrater Channel;
Jack L. Clark Enterprises, Applicant.
B. Variance Case No. 84-002, a request to allow patio covers to encroach into
the 10-foot required rear yard in a planned residential development, located
at the northwest corner of Washington Street and the La Quinta Stommater
Channel; Jack L. Clark Enterprises, Applicant.
Chairman Thornburgh then called for the staff report.
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1. Principal Planner Bonner explained that this 54-unit, statutory
condcminitun project is phase two of the approved Duna La Quinta
Specific Plan. The Applicant has redesigned the original plans
to provide additional space between the units and has lowered
the density to 6.2 units per acre. The specific plan allows 20
units per acre. The proposed unit designs comply with the City's
adopted standards for single-family residences and with Ordinance
No. 38 regulating unit sizes within planned residential develop-
ments. The exterior design is compatible with existing and
proposed development located to the north and west of the site.
Regarding the variance, Principal Planner Bonner stated the
Applicant is requesting approval to allow structures within the
10-foot rear setback area for Tentative Tract 20158. Staff is
recoacmding denial based on the findings in the staff report
which are as follows:
a. The strict application of the rear yard setback requirements
will not deprive the property of privileges enjoyed by other
similarly zoned property in the vicinity which do provide for
rear yards in compliance with ordinance standards.
b. No "special circumstances" with respect to the physical
constraints of the lot prevent the Applicant from complying
with the requirements of the ordinance.
c. Approval of the request would constitute the granting of
special privileges inconsistent with the limitations enforced
on similarly zoned property and other developments within the
vicinity.
Principal Planner Bonner then turned the remainder of the staff
report presentation over to Larry Stevens, Community Development
Director.
Mr. Stevens discussed the conditions of approval that were of some
concern.
Condition No. 13.a.(1) - Add the following sentence:
"The Fire Marshal may approve equivalent, alternate
fire protection."
Condition No. 13.a.(5) - Delete.
Mr. Stevens stated that the remainder of the conditions were
necessary and appropriate. He stated that staff is recommending
approval of the Tentative Tract Map No. 20158, Amended No. 1,
and denial of Variance Case No. 84-002.
Chairman Thornburgh then called upon the Applicant for his presentation.
Mr. Jack Clark, Jr., 50-102 Avenida Vista Bonita, La Quinta, CA,
Applicant, addressed the conditions of approval that were of concern
to him.
Condition No. 9.a. - Applicant would like the words "and approaches"
added.
Condition No. 9.e. - Applicant would like to work this out with staff.
Condition No. 9.j. - Applicant wants clarification of this condition.
Condition No. 10 - Applicant will work with the Fire Marshal and pro-
vide what is necessary for compliance.
Condition No. 12. - Applicant stated that staff has agreed this
information could be put on the landscape plan
rather than having to provide a new set of plans.
Condition No. 16. - Applicant stated that Landmark Land Company is now
negotiating with IID to satisfy their requirements.
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Condition No. 18. - Applicant would like to address this condition
with their attorney and would therefore like to
reserve any cent at this time.
Condition No. 19. - Applicant stated that Landmark Land Company has
agreed to put up the wall as timely as possible.
Condition No. 24. - Applicant stated he believes he understands this
condition, but finds it hard to agree to pay fees
deemed necessary not knowing what the fees are.
Regarding the variance request, Mr. Clark stated that they would
like the project to be uniform with those around it, which do have
patio covers. He feels that the patio covers enhance the project.
He reminded the Commission that later, after the homes are built,
he felt positive that owners would want to erect patio covers and
would have to apply for variances at that time. If the variance
would be granted now, all patio covers would be uniform instead of
having different styles should the owners have them constructed.
Mr. Clark stated he felt there was a special circumstance here and
requested that the variance be granted.
Mr. Stevens, Community Development Director, responded to the
conditions of concern noted by the Applicant.
9.a. Staff supports the generalized wording in the condition. If
the Applicant feels that improvements required by the City
Engineer in conjunction with the review of detailed improve-
ment plans are inappropriate, he has the right to bring that
back before the City for cent and to see if the requirements
of staff are excessive.
9.e. Staff will work this out with the Applicant.
9.j. This condition does specifically pertain to the portions of
Washington Street to be improved with the project. Tb clarify
this condition, it does mean that there needs to be a striping
plan, which is the Applicant's responsibility.
10. and 12. Staff is working with the Applicant on these two
conditions.
16. Staff feels that this condition is the appropriate stand for
the City to take. It is really necessary for the developers
who need power from IID to work out appropriate solutions with
them.
18. This condition regarding CC&R's is a standard one and Staff
feels the Applicant will find no fault with it when he checks
with his attorney.
19. Staff feels this can be worked out with the Applicant.
24. Staff feels no further cent need be made with regard to
this condition.
Chairman Thornburgh then asked if anyone else would like to speak
regarding this project.
Andy Vossler, Landmark Land Company, P. O. Box 1000, La Quintal CAr
spoke in favor of the project. With regard to Condition No. 19, he
advised that Landmark Lund Company would be constructing the wall
referred to here, but due to the issues involved in putting in the
deep sewer lines in that same area, it would be impossible to have
the wall completed by the time Mr. Clark is ready to record his final
map. However, Landmark Land Company sees no problem in bonding for
the wall and felt they could then meet the December 31, 1984 date
specified in Condition No. 19. (Mr. Stevens stated that bonding
would be acceptable to staff.)
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Mr. Vossler continued on to discuss Condition No. 9 regarding the
Washington Street improvements. He stated that in order for Landmark
to bond for this type of improvement, it is almost essential that
there be engineered drawings. 'There are no engineered drawings from
the bridge to the bottom of the approach. That is another reason
why Landmark believes this improvement be a City function and part of
the exaction fees. Landmark has no problem in bonding for Washington
Street improvements from the bottom of the approach to the intersection.
They have a danger concern for the community if that decision were made,
but if that decision was made and the liability was not theirs, they
would improve the street; otherwise, they prefer to bond it.
Mr. Stevens replied to this by stating he feels the approach of the
bridge (at the change of elevation) is probably the appropriate place
to relate the improvements to by his point of view. It really will
be a matter of, when we get to the energy design, working out a plan
between the Planning Department, City Engineer and affected Applicant
and Landmark (based on their involvement) . If, at that point in time,
the Applicant feels that what staff has requested is inappropriate,
they can bring it back to the City for review. Mr. Stevens stated he
feels the approach should be part of the bridge. He also feels this
would be the best way to resolve this problem, rather than try to
resolve it in the language of a condition.
Mr. Vossler stated that this response was satisfactory to Landmark.
As there were no further comments, Chairman Thornburgh closed the
public hearing.
Moving on to discussion of the variance, Chairman Thornburgh stated
that he would not like to see variances come through, but it is a
vehicle that is available. He noted that he sees staff's position
and also the Applicant's side, but in looking at the entire picture,
he also sees the homeowner's side. In this particular instance, he
feels the variance acceptable.
Commissioner Walling agreed with Chairman Thornburgh in feeling that
the variance should be approved. He asked staff if there were any
other way to allow the patio covers other than through the variance
procedure. He felt that not allowing the patio covers would take
away from the quality of the project.
Mr. Stevens responded to Commissioner Walling's request by stating
that the only other method would be to modify the language in the
code to authorize some sort of structure in rear yards subject to
some sort of conditions. The process for doing this would delay the
project considerably. This method was discussed with the Applicant
early on and because of the time frame involved, he opted for the
variance. Mr. Stevens stated that staff recommends, should the
Commission approve the variance based on the facts presented by the
Applicant, they should direct staff to consider the modification of
its planned residential development standards, so that supplicant
applicants do not have to go the variance route.
Commissioner Salas stated he could not vote for the variance. He
felt that the patios were in the design of the project from the
beginning and asked staff if they had knowledge of this.
Mr. Stevens explained that there had been a lack of proper communi-
cation between the Applicant and his people, who had told the Applicant
there would be no problem getting a variance for the patio covers.
Staff explained to the Applicant that they would have to request denial
of the request in their staff report, but the Applicant opted to apply
anyway.
Commissioner Klimkiewicz stated he could not vote in favor of the
variance. He could see no special circumstance to allow it. He
stated he could agree to a modification of the code.
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After same further discussion, Chairman Thornburgh called for a
motion.
2. Commissioner Walling made a motion to approve Variance No. 84-002.
Chairman Thornburgh seconded. By voice vote, there were two (2)
ayes, two (2) nays, and one (1) abstention.
C nudssioner Goetcheus stated that he feels he could not vote
against staff's recommendations. He liked this project and wished
someone could come up with a solution other than the variance. He
asked if Mr. Vossler could comment on the suitability of a golf
course that close to a patio.
Mr. Vossler stated that if Landmark Land Cly could resolve this
problem, they would do so immediately;, but as the channel is CVWD' s
property, they do not have the authority to do so. To get the
approval through the water company would be too time consuming. He
went on to state that there are many golf holes in the desert that
are less than 250 feet in width from boundary to boundary. There
are numerous holes at La Quinta Country Club, which is one of the
top five courses in Coachella Valley. He noted that the Applicant
and he actually went to the La Quinta Country Club and stepped off
some dimensions. The second hole immediately behind a house that
was formerly owned by Mr. Vossler's father in the Lagos is 210 feet
from patio to patio. That house is worth approximately �275,000
and houses across the golf hole are worth approximately $350,000 to
$450,000. Therefore, this would not diminish home values in any way.
The dimensions for this project are even greater and should have
absolutely no affect on the patios being constructed in the rear
10-foot setbacks.
ConTnissioner Klimkiewicz made a motion to reconsider the request
so they could vote again. Conmi_ssioner Walling seconded. Unanimously
adopted.
Chairman Thornburgh then called for another motion.
Commissioner Klimkiewicz made a motion to approve the variance
subject to the following findings and conditions:
Findings
1. "Special Circumstances" due to the location of the subject
property contiguous to a golf course facility and due to
the long, narrow shape of the subject property indicate
that the Variance warrants favorable consideration.
2. The strict application of rear yard setback requirements
to the subject property will deprive it of privileges
enjoyed by other similarly zoned property in the vicinity
since the purpose and intent of rear yard setback require-
ments can be reasonably attained due to the open and
permanent land use.
3. Approval of the Variance would not constitute granting of
a special privilege inconsistent with limitations on
similarly zoned property in the vicinity since the zoning
regulations governing planned residential developments
adjacent to golf courses need to be modified.
4. Limitation of the rear yard setback encroachment to a
covered, but not enclosed, patio will assure that the
purpose and intent of setback requirements is satisfied
without adversely affecting adjacent parcels.
Conditions
1. The encroachment of covered patios into the required rear
yard setback shall be limited as follows:
a. Structures shall be limited to the area and design
shown on plans submitted in conjunction with Tentative
Tract Map No. 20158, Amended No. 1
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b. No.future expansion or enclosure of the subject patio
covers shall be allowed.
c. Structures shall conform to minimum requirements of
the Uniform Building Code.
2. This Variance approval shall expire two years after the date
of approval by the La Quinta City Council unless approved for
extension as provided for by the City of La Quinta Zoning
Ordinance. No extension shall be granted unless Tentative
Tract Map No. 20158, Amended No. 1, is also extended.
Commissioner Goetcheus seconded the motion. Unanimously adopted
with one no vote.
Chairman Thornburgh then called for a motion on the tentative
tract.
Commissioner Klimkiewicz made a motion to approve Tentative Tract
Map No. 20158, Amended No. 1, subject to the conditions in the staff
report. Commissioner Salas seconded. Unanimously adopted.
C. Chairman Thornburgh introduced the next hearing item as Tentative Tract Map
No. 20218, a request for approval of a 16-unit, planned residential development
on 4.32 acres, located at the southwest corner of Washington Street and 50th
Avenue; William G. Young, Applicant. He then called for the staff report.
1. Principal Planner Bonner advised that this is a 16-unit, Planned Residential
Development on 4.32 acres at the southwest corner of Washington Street and
50th Avenue. The density of the project is slightly over three units per
acre, which is below the maximum, allowed under the specific plan (that maxinm
being 5 units per acre). All units are facing the golf course and will be
set back from Washington Street an average of approximately 65 feet. The
project as designed is in total compliance with the requirements of the zoning
ordinance. It is also in compliance with the minimum dwelling size and design
of the units. Based on the findings and subject to the conditions in the staff
report, staff is receding approval of this tentative tract.
Mr. Stevens advised those present that Condition No. 13.a.(1) should have the
following sentence addeded:
"'The Fire Marshal may approve equivalent, alternate fire
protection."
He also advised that Condition No. 13.a.(4) should be deleted.
Chairman Thornburgh called upon the Applicant for his presentation.
Mike Smith of J. F. Davidson Associates spoke for the Applicant (48-190 Verde Way,
Palm Desert). He stated that the Applicant has no problem with any of the condi-
tions of approval except Condition No. 12. He noted that this project has no room
to provide for a non -automotive means of transportation. Mr. Stevens advised him
that the road would suffice as the pedestrian path, and staff will also look for
some walkway around the tennis court and swimming pool. This response was satis-
factory to the Applicant.
Dave Ricker, Kansas City, KS, who stated he was working with Mr. Young, the
Applicant, asked if the Conditions Nos. 9.g. and 19.needed to be addressed with
this application. Mr. Stevens advised that these conditions had not been changed
with regard to the previously discussed project. He advised Mr. Ricker that any
improvements staff requires can be bonded. Staff would still like to see the
wall up no later than December 31, 1984, or by the recordation date, whichever
cores first.
As there were no further comments, Chairman 'Thornburgh closed the public hearing.
There was a short discussion regarding the lighting of the tennis courts and
staff advised that this is all covered by our ordinances.
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Commissioner Walling questioned whether or not the mechanical equipment
would be visible from the Washington Street bridge and if so, he felt
it should be screened either architecturally or with trees, etc. Mr.
Stevens advised that Condition No. 8 covers this situation, but staff
would also work with the Applicant if this should be a problem.
After a short discussion, Chairman Thornburgh called for a motion.
2. Commissioner Klimkiewicz made a motion to approve Tentative Tract
Map No. 20218, subject to the findings and conditions in the staff
report. Commissioner Walling seconded the motion. Unanimously
adopted.
4. CONSENT CALENDAR
Moved by Commissioner Goetcheus, seconded by Commissioner Klimkiewicz to
approve the minutes of the regular meeting of June 12, 1984, and the minutes
of the adjourned meeting of June 21, 1984.
A. The minutes of the regular meeting of June 12, 1984 were approved as
submitted. Unanimously adopted.
B. The minutes of the adjourned meeting of June 21, 1984 were approved as
submitted. Unanimously adopted.
5. BUSINESS
A. Chairman Thornburgh introduced the first item of business as Plot Plan
No. 84-059, a request to construct a single-family dwelling on the east
side of Roudel Lane, 180 feet south of the end of the street; Chris
Caras, Applicant. He called for the staff report.
1. Principal Planner Bonner recommended that the Planning Commission
table this item and reschedule it at a later date after the Applicant
has submitted revised house plans.
Chairman Thornburgh called for a motion.
Commissioner Goetcheus made a motion to table Plot Plan No. 84-059
until such time that the Applicant presents revised house plans.
Commissioner Klimkiewicz seconded the motion. Unanimously adopted.
At this point, Principal Planner Bonner requested that the Commission review items
5.B. through 5.F. as one item. These five houses are all of the same design.
Chairman Thornburgh introduced those item of business as follows:
B. Plot Plan No. 84-062, a request to construct a single-family house on
the west side of Avenida Madero, 150 feet south of Calle Chillon; Rick
Johnson Construction, Applicant.
C. Plot Plan No. 84-063, a request to construct a single-family house on
the east side of Avenida Diaz, 300 feet north of Calle Tecate, Rick
Johnson Construction, Applicant.
D. Plot Plan No. 84-064, a request to construct a single-family house on
the east side of Eisenhower Drive, 250 feet north of Calle Monterey;
Bob Monroe, Applicant.
E. Plot Plan No. 84-065, a request to construct a single-family house on
the west side of Avenida Obregon, 100 feet south of Calle Madrid; Bob
Monroe, Applicant.
F. Plot Plan No. 84-066, a request to construct a single-family house on
the west side of Avenida Obregon, 150 feet south of Calle Madrid, Bob
Monroe, Applicant.
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Chairman Thornburgh called for the staff report.
1. Principal Planner Bonner stated that staff recommends that the
Planning Commission approve all five of these plot plan requests
in accordance with the exhibits and conditions of approval for
each case.
Mr. Thornburgh called for a motion.
2. Ccmuissioner Salas made a motion to approve Plot Plan 84-062,
Plot Plan 84-063, Plot Plan 84-064, Plot Plan 84-065 and Plot
Plan 84-066 based upon the findings in the staff reports and in
accordance with Exhibits A, B and C and subject to attached
conditions. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Klimkiewicz.
Unanimously adopted.
Mr. Stevens advised that items 5.G. and 5.H. are items of information only
so that the Commission is aware that the City Council, based upon the
reccmrendation of the City Attorney, is no longer recommending phantom
assessment districts on specific plans and tentative maps. Item 5.H. relates
to single-family development standards with regard to dropping the curb and
gutter requirements and clarifying the roof screening requirements.
Mr. Stevens advised the Commission that the Study Session for the next
regular meeting would be held on the morning of August 13, 1984. The
Commission will be notified of the time as soon as possible and whether
there will be a field trip involved with regard to the Sand Pebble Country
Club project.
There being no further items of agenda to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairman Thornburgh called for a motion to adjourn.
Commissioner Salas made a motion to adjourn to the next regular meeting of
August 14, 1984, at 7:00 p.m., in La Quinta City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado,
La Quinta, California.
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of La Quinta,
California, was adjourned at 8:45 p.m., July 10, 1984, at the La Quinta
City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, CA.