1984 10 30 PC Minutes ~ .....
MINUTES
DATE
PLANNING COMISSION - CITY OF LA QUINTA
A Regular Meeting Held at the La Quinta
City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta,
california
October 30, 1984 7:00 p.m.
1. CALL TO ORDER
A. Chairman Thornburgh called the Planning Conmission meeting to order
- at 7:00 p.m. He then called upon Larry Stevens to lead the flag salute.
2. ROLL CALL
A.Chairman Thornburgh requested the roll call. The Secretary called the
roll:
Present: Cc~missioners Goetcheus, Klimkiewicz, Walling and ChaLrman
Thornburgh
Absent: Cc~missioner Salas
Chairman Thornburgh requested a motion to excuse Conm~ssioner Salas.
Cc~missioner Goetcheus moved to excuse Cc~missioner Salas frc~ this
meeting of October 30, 1984. ~ssioner Walling seconded.
Unanimously adopted.
Also present were Cc~munity Develo~nent Director Lawrence L. Stevens,
Principal Planner Sandra L. Bonner and Secretary Donna M. Velotta.
3. HEARINGS
Chaizman Thorntmrgh advised all those present that the tw~ hearings on the
agenda were regarding the same project and therefore would be heard con-
currently as follows:
A. Change of Zone Case No. 84-014, a request to change the existing zoning
frc[n R-2-3000, R-2-4800, R-2-9000, C-P-S, W-2, R-5, and W-1 to R-2, to
allow for a planned residential development generally located between
Avenues 48 and 50 and Washington and Jefferson Streets, in accord_ance
with a proposed specific plan; The Grove Associates, Applicant.
B. Specific Plan No. 84-004, a request for approval of a 1500-unit, planned
residential development with a 28-acre country club, tw~ golf courses
and 80 guest cottages on approximately 682 acres generally located
between Avenues 48 and 50 and Washington and Jefferson Streets; The
Grove Associates, Applicant.
He then called for the Staff report.
Cc~munity Development Director Lawrence L. Stevens addressed the Change of
zone request first stating that the request is intended to facilitate the
proposed Specific Plan No. 84-004. Under current zoning, approved by the
County, scme 2049 dwelling units could be constructed along_ with a 20-acre
resort hotel. With the proposed zoning of R-2, without the lot size or
density limitation, approximately 6 units per acre could be constructed.
However, the Applicant only intends to construct approximately 2.2 units
per acre. As a result, it see~s necessary to append the proposed R-2 zoning
with a 20,000 square foot per dwelling lot area limitation to control the
density.
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Director Stevens stated that the Applicant's proposal regarding building
height is satisfactory, therefore there is no need to attach anything to
the zoning in that regard.
He stated that, based upon the findings in the Staff P~port, the Community
Develo_~ment Department recc~mends approval of Change of Zone Case No. 84-014,
as revised, and in accordance with attached Exhibits entitled "Staff Reccm~ended
Zoning".
Director Stevens then went on to address the second portion of the Staff
Report for the EIR Addendum and the Specific Plan No. 84-004. An EiR was
prepared for the prior Specific Plan which was a 2049-unit project with a
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20-acre resort hotel and two golf courses. This EIR was certified by the
County in 1979 when they approved that plan. When the Applicant was pre-
paring to sutmtit the revised application, essentially downscaping the
project in terms of its density and intensity, our Staff evaluated the
previous EIR and the regulations of the California Environmental Quality
Act (CEQA), and it was Staff's determination that the project was substantially
the same. As a result, a new EIR was not warranted. Staff, however, did feel
that there were changeS in the enviro~t surrounding the project which
warranted additional cc~sideration. The three issues for which Staff asked
consideration in the addendUm were:
o School Impacts - (Which were not a concern in 1979) These were
evaluated in the addendum and a mitigation
measure proposed which is similar to mitigation
measures proposed in other residential projects
o Fringe-toed Lizard - (?~ich was not officially considered a rare
and endangered species in 1979) There is a
mitigation program which is proposed and
ccnm~only accepted for the develot~nent projects
which was discussed in the Addendum and is
appropriate without doing additional environ-
mental review.
o Update of Traffic and Circulation Issues which were extensively
discussed in the project EIR. Staff did want to update that
information to current situations and various traffic studies
have been discussed and rediscussed. Staff did not feel that it
warranted doing an EIR, as this can be adequately handled through
the additional traffic analysis and resolved through conditions of
approval. As a result, Staff selected the use of the Addendum
procedure to assure cc~pliance with CEQA.
Therefore, it is Staff's reccnxn~ndation, should the Cc~nission approve the
project, that you certify the AddendUm as a modification of the original EIR.
Director Stevens described the project as having up to 1500 residential units
to be located on approximately 320 acres. There would be a country club
facility, including tennis, swianting and dining facilities with 80 guest
cottages reserved for members and outside guests to be located on 28 acres.
It would also include two, 18-hole golf courses located on approximately 305
acres. The project would have a gross residential density of 2.2 units per
acre.
He noted that one of the main issues relating to the project is traffic and
circulation. There was a joint meeting of the Planning ~ssion and City
Council on October 24, 1984, at which the traffic issues were discussed
considerably. Staff cc~ntissioned a traffic report which vras prepared by
Berryman and Stephenson, and which everyone had the opportunity to review;
the. Applicant had a report prepared by Charlie Abrams and both reports were
discussed extensively at the study session. Discussion of the two traffic
studies raised the principal concern of whether or not there is a need for
a north-south corridor street be~ Washington and Jefferson Streets. The
Applicant's traffic report stated such a corridor was not necessary. The
traffic report prepared by Berryman and Stephenson concluded that the road
was necessary. There was considerable debate as to whose numbers and assump-
tions were correct. Director Stevens stated that ultimately the decision would
not be resolved based on differences in numbers, but will be based upon what
benefits exist as trade-offs and whether or not those benefits sufficiently
off-weigh any nc~ or desire for additional north-south corridor. Most of
the discussion centered on Ads_ms Street as that north-south corridor.
As a result of the information contained in the traffic reports and based
on Staff's analysis and judgment of %he situation, i% is Staff's reccnm~_nd_ation
that the project be tabled and the Applicant directed to prepare revised plans
including the north-south corridor street. However, in the event the Planning
C~ssion and/or City Council do not agree with Staff's recc~aner~ation, we
have prepared, for your consideration, a Resolution which incorporates needed
findings, and we have prepared conditions which we think are sufficient should
it be the Cc~mission's desire to approve the project without the north-south
corridor street.
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Director Stevens then reviewed the Conditions of Approval. Conditions
that were revised and/or added as a result of the study session are as
follows:
Condition No. 12 - Revised
Condition No. 16 - Revised
A new "Traffic and Circulation" condition added.
Condition No. 17 - Revised
Condition No. 23 - Revised
Condition No. 26 (b.) - Revised
A new condition re "Building Height".
Condition NO. 29 - Revised
Director Stevens noted that Staff's recc[m~_ndation has been stated -
in the event that the Conmkission approves the project, Staff feels tha~
the conditions, as revised, are adequate.
After a short discussion, Chairman 5hornburgh called upon the Applicant
for their presentation.
Dave Howerton, Architect for the project, spoke in behalf of ~ne Grove
Associates. He stated that out of the 37 conditions presented in the
Staff report, the Applicant only had problems with a few and that w~uld
be the topic of his presentation.
Condition No. 24. The Applicant objects to having to dedicate a 10-acre
site for park and recreations purposes. The reasons
for this are, (1) The econcmics do not w~rk when you
have to give up 10 acres of developable land for a
public use and, the land devoted to recreational
and open space in the project is 380 acres. Then in
Condition No. 26 with the additional setbacks on the
perimeter walls, we will have to give up an additional
eight acres. With all of the recreational area in the
project being available to all who live here, the
Applicant sees no need for a park next to this project.
The second reason that the Applicant objects to this
condition is that the City already will have a park
facility at this location as the new schools that are
to be built adjacent to this project will have play-
ground and ballfield facilities. The Applicant feels
that donating ten more acres of land for a uublic park
really does not give the City what it needs and is not
the best opportunity for the City. The Applicant feels
that if they could pay to the City, through exaction
fees, funds that could be used for the acquisition of
land for. the construction and maintenance of parks, this
w~uld give La Quinta scme better opportunities than a
park in this particular setting.
Condition NO. 26. Regarding the setbacks on perimeter walls, the Applicant
stated they ~uld feel more ccmfortable, rather than
settling a design issue with a piece of language that says
an extra 20 feet back frcm the pro~r~_rty line for a wall
will assure great landscaping, but ~3uld prefer this issue
to the condition that staff is requiring of th~ to prepare
a master landscaping of the overall project. The Applicant
feels that the Specific Plan level is not the time to solve
this using an arbitrary number. This does not guarantee good
design. A proper landscape architectural exercise will and
the Applicant stated they w~uld be happy to review this wi%h
staff.
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Condition No. 29. ~ne Applicant stated that this condition, as revised,
with regard to the $150,000 up front fees for fire
protection is excessive. Comparing it to what was
imposed on the PGA West project, it ~orked out on a
per unit basis for PGA West at $120 and for this project
$180 per unit. In theory, this approach in solving the
_ fire protection probl~ns and contributing to its mitiga-
tion is acceptable, but the Applicant is not in agreement
with the numbers. They want to ~ork with staff to come
up with a more realistic fee. There was scme additional
language in this condition that the Applicant did not
understar~ fully. As it reads, they feel they vxpuld be
paying said fees twice, but they will ~ork with staff to
clear this up.
In conclusion, the Applicant noted that he would like to think of the City
as a partner in this project. Staff has done a lot to help get t~is project
to its present point before the Conm%ission.
Chairman Thornburgh asked for any further ~ts frcm the Applicant or
Staff and as there were none, ne opened the hearing to public cc~nmnt.
Audrey Ostrowsky - P. O. Box 351, La Quinta, CA- stated she was against the
closing of another street in La Quanta. Would like to see
the entry into this project removed from Washington Street.
She felt that if Ad__~_ms Street were not put in place and
there was a calamity ~n the Cove area, the residents of
the Cove would be stranded.
No one else wished to speak, therefore Chairman Thornburgh closed the public
hearing.
At th~s point, the Planning Coranission held a very lengthy discussion regarding
their viewpoints as to whether or not Adams Street should be put in place from
Avenue 4~ to Avenue 50. As this is a very important issue, the discussion was
very in-depth and as a result, it vzas the final consensus of the Planning
Cc~mtission that Ad_s_ms Street Frcm Avenue 48 to Avenue 50 should not be required.
Director Stevens and the Planning Cc~mmission reviewed the conditions of concern
as follows:
o Add sentence to Condition No. 12:
"These public roads shall be imp~ved to a half-width condition."
o Under Traffic and Circulation, Condition NO. 13, which is of concern to
one of the Cc~mtissioners, Director Stevens stated the apprOach he suggests
to try and resolve that concern is to impose an additional stated condition
- he noted that he would generally state it here and if it is acceptable to
the Cc~nissioners, he needed the right to work out the exact verbage after
the fact - requesting the Applicant to agree to participate on a pro-rata
fair share basis based on benefit in the improvement of Adams between 111
and 48th, with that funding mmthod being an assessment district or scum
similar funding mechanism with the timing of the improvement to be based
on a monitoring program. In other words, take Condition No. 13, modify it
specifically to relate to that and require the Applicant to enter ~nto an
agrc~r~nt for reasonable, fair share tklrticipat~on.
- It should be noted here that the Planning Con~tL~sion agreed to the new
condition and gave Director Stevens the right to work out exact verbage
for the record.
o Revise Condition NO. 16 to read:
"The construction of Avenue 48 between Washington and Jefferson Streets
shall occur prior to beginning Phase II of the project. This construction
shall provide for a pavement width of 24-28 feet, but other improvements,
including curb, gutter, sidewalk, etc., may be deferred as set forth in
the phasing plan."
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o Add a new Traffic and Circulat&on condition to read:
"The Avenue 50 frontage improvement may be deferred, at the Applicant's
discretion, to Phase III of the project."
o A~d the following to Condition No.317:
_ " ..... project exclusively, except that credit shall be given for any
cost in excess of $25,000."
o Revise Condition No. 23 to read:
"The maximum allowable number of residential units shall be 1500 and the
max/hum number of guest cottages shall De 80. In considerzng requests
..... intent of this specific plan.
a. ~ne residential density is estsblished at a gross density of 2.2
dwelling units per acre with a net density not to exceed 6 dwelling
units per acre."
o Condition No. 24 - Applicant has noted strong objection to this condition
requesting them to dedicate a 10-acre park site to the City.
Planning Cc~uission discussed this at lengt~ and the consensus resulting
was that the condition could be eliminated.
o Revise Condition No. 26.b. to read:
"Portion of the perimeter walls shall consider the use of wrought iron
(or similar open fencing) to provide view frc~ the street into the
project."
Director Stevens noted that the Applicant ~as objected to the 20' setback
on the major highways, required as a part of this condition, but the City
_ has pretty firmly established that an "average" of 20 feet is what we want
on the major highways and what we have required for past project approvals.
After a short discussion, the C(~mission requested t~at Staff bring wall
plans back for their review. Director Stevens stated that if we leave the
language as is for this condition, Staff will ccme in on an znfo~ basis
to Keep ~ informed on these wall designs.
o The following condition on building height was offered for ~ssion
consideration. Director Stevens stated that if approved, it w~uld be
placed under the "Land Use" heading in the conditions of approval.
"Building height shall be subject to height limitations specified in
the specific plan, except that no building exceeding one story in
height shall be allowed within 75 feet of any perimeter property line."
o Revise Condition .~o. 29 to read:
"Fire protection shall be provided ~n accordance with the requirements
of the Uniform Fire Code and La Quinta Municipal Code in effect at the
time of devel~t.
a. ~ne Applicant shall, prior to is~3_snce of any building penuit,
contribute as prepayment of fire mitigation fees $150,000 to
assist the City ~n its needs for a new fzre station. ~his
contribution shall be used as a credit for fire facilities fees
until these fees exceed the amount of t_he credit, except that
indivzdual custcm residences constructed on individual custom
- lots shall pay a fire facility fee at time of building permit.
b. No cul-de-sacs shall ..... emergency access surface.
c. Provide required mininum ..... time of development."
After scme discussion regarding this cond&tion, Director Stevens stated
he would work on it further to clarify the fees.
1. Cc~uissioner Goetcheus made the following two motions regarding the items of
ager~_a:
MDtion based upon findings contained in the Staff Report, to r~d to the
City Council approval of Change of Zone Case No. 84-014, as revised, changing
zoning frcm R-2-3000, R-2-4800, R-2-9000, C-P-S, W-2, R-5 and W-1 to R-2, in
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accordance with attached Exhibit entitled, "Staff ~ded Zoning".
5btion to adopt the Resolution, suDject to the modifications requested
by Staff and discussed in the consensus discussion and incorporating
the findings that are in the Resolution, and certifying the Addendum to
the Environmental Impact Report.
Cc~missioner Walling seconded both motions. Unanimously approved w~th
C/mmissioner Klimkiewicz opposing.
4. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. ~bved by Ounnissioner Goetcheus, seconded by Chairman Thornburgh to
approve the minutes of the regular meeting of September 11, 1984.
1. The minutes of the regular meethng of September 11, 1984, were
approved as sutm%itted. Unanimously Adopted.
B. 5bved by Omm~ssicner Goetcheus, seconded by Chairman Thornburgh to
approve the minutes of the regular meeting of October 9, 1984.
A. The minutes of the regular meeting of October 9, 1984, were
approved as s~unitted. Unanimously Adopted.
5. BUSINESS
6. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further items of agenda to ccme Defore the Planning Commission,
Chain~an Thornburgh called for a motion to adjourn.
Cc~missioner Klimkiewicz made a motion to adjourn to the next regular meeting
of November 13, 1984, at 7:00 p.m., in La Quinta City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado,
La Quinta, California. Cnnm%issioner Walling seconded. Unanimously Adopted.
The regular m~cting of the Planning Cc~ission of the City of La Quinta,
California, was adjourned at 9:40 p.m., October 30, 1984, at the La Quinta
City Hall, 78-105 Calle Es~do, La Quinta, california.