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1990 07 10 PC Minutes MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION - CITY OF LA QUINTA A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California July 10, 1990 7:00 P.M. I. CALL TO ORDER A. The meeting was called to order at 7:04 P.M. by Chairman Walling. The Flag Salute was led by Commissioner Zelles. II. ROLL CALL A. Chairman Walling requested the roll call. Present: Commissioners Steding, Zelles, Moran, Barrows, Mosher, and Chairman Walling. B. Staff Present: Planning Director Jerry Herman, Principal Planner Stan Sawa, Department Secretary Betty Anthony. III. RESOLUTIONS OF RECOGNITION A. Planning Director Jerry Herman asked the Commission to approve Resolutions No. 90-030 and 90-031, resolutions of recognition to be presented to Chairman John Walling and Commissioner John Bund thanking them for their contributions to the City of La Quinta during their terms of office. Commissioner Zelles moved and Commissioner Steding seconded the motion to approve Resolutions 90-030 and 90-031 as presented. Unanimously approved. Planning Director Jerry Herman then presented the plaques to Chairman Walling and Commissioner Bund. IV. ELECTION OF OFFICERS A. Chairman Walling asked for nominations for the position of Chairman. Commissioner Zelles nominated Commissioner Moran. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Steding. Nominations were closed and Commissioner Moran was elected unanimously. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 1 - B. Chairman Walling asked for nominations for the _ position of Vice Chairman. Commissioner Zelles nominated Commissioner Steding. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Moran. Nominations were closed and Commissioner Steding was elected unanimously. C. Chairman Walling turned the gavel and meeting over to the newly appointed Chairman Moran. V. HEARINGS: A. Continued Public Hearinq on Internally Illuminated Addresses for all new residential dwellinqs. A request of the City to amend the Uniform Building Code to require internally illuminated address signs. 1. Planning Director Jerry Herman presented the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. There being no questions of Staff, Chairman Moran OPENED the CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. No one wished to address the Commission and the PUBLIC HEARING was CLOSED. 3. Commissioner Zelles inquired of Staff if according to Exhibit "A", residents could place the illuminated on the current mailboxes. Planning Director Herman stated that they would be reviewed on a case by case basis, but would only be approved where the pedestal was acceptable for such illumination. 4. Commissioner Steding asked that verbiage be included to so state that the pedestal could only be for a single family residence, not multiple. 5. Chairman Moran asked that this be recommended to Council as an Urgency Ordinance. 6. There being no further comments, Commissioner Steding moved and Commissioner Zelles seconded the motion to approve Planning Commission Resolution 90-032 recommending to the City Council amending the Uniform Building Code as submitted with the additional language stating "for a single family residence only", and that this be passed as an Urgency Ordinance. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 2 - ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: Commissioners Zelles, Steding, Mosher, Barrows, Chairman Moran. Noes: None. Absent: None. Abstaining: None. B. Public Use Permit 90-006. A request of the City for approval to allow construction of a Child Care/Community Center. 1. Planning Director Jerry Herman presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Commissioner Mosher inquired about the proximity of the kitchen to the restrooms. Planning Director Herman explained that due to the use being for child care there was a need for this type of visibility. 3. There being no further questions of Staff, Chairman Moran OPENED the PUBLIC HEARING. 4. Robin Llewellyn, Project Coordinator, spoke on behalf of the Center. 5. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Moran CLOSED the PUBLIC HEARING. 6. Commissioner Zelles asked if the Design Review Board had approved the project. Planning Director Herman stated that the Board had reviewed the project and had recommended approval of the architectural elevations. 7. Chairman Moran inquired if the Fire Marshal had any comments. Planning Director Herman stated that since it was a Child Care Center it would require approval of the State Fire Marshal. 8. Following discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Zelles and seconded by Commissioner Mosher to approve Minute Motion 90-025. ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: Commissioners Zelles, Steding, Mosher, Barrows, Chairman Moran. Noes: None. Absent: None. Abstaining, None. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 3 - VI. PUBLIC COMMENT A. Audrey Ostrowski, 77-400 Calle Sinaloa, addressed the Commission regarding her concerns on the downtown area. She felt the City should be more sympathetic to the property owner. B. Mr. Robert Metkus, 79-295 Sunset Ridge, addressed the Commission regarding his request at the previous meeting, to have the City establish a dialog with Coachella Valley Water District. His inquired as to the status of this request. He stated that wells were being drilled and well sites being put aside on the north side of La Quinta. Homeowners buying property without them knowing that a well will be built in their backyard. He stated that La Quinta Palms had already faced this problem and he wanted the City to prevent this from happening again. He felt CVWD should be required to notify developers or homeowners, of their proposed plans so such things as noise abatement, size, configuration, vegetation planting, irrigation, and walls could be discussed in advance. 1. Chairman Moran asked that Staff request a representative from CVWD attend a Study Session of the Planning Commission to have a dialog with them regarding_these concerns. VII. BUSINESS ITEMS A. Continued Siqn Proqram for Plaza De La Fuente, Warren Johnson Office Building. A request of Warren Johnson for approval of location and design for overall sign program for a office complex. 1. Planning Director Jerry Herman presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. He noted that a request for a temporary sign for La Quinta Mortgage had been received. 2. Chairman Moran stated that the Commission had requested a more detailed description for the sign program. 3. Commissioner Steding inquired as to Plan A. Planning Director Herman stated that by granting the adjustment to Plan A it would allow the tenant to have a temporary sign for two years. He went on to give a description of what the options were before the Commission. Discussion followed. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 4 - 4. Mr. Jim Daughtry, of La Quinta Mortgage, tenant in the building, addressed the Commission as to his need to have a sign as soon as possible to identify his business. 5. Mr. Warren Johnson, owner of the building, addressed the Commission and explained his proposal. He felt he had submitted a very clear and concise proposal. Commissioners discussed with Mr. Johnson how many tenants he currently had and what the potential number of tenants could be. 6. Planning Director clarified his recommendation in the Staff report to be an approval of Plan A for wall signs, Plan H be denied and Plan I be a monument sign 23 square feet as illustrated. The temporary sign for Mr. Daughtry is for Commission consideration as an option either as a wall or freestanding sign. 7. Chairman Moran stated that in the future the building could be divided into additional offices causing requests for additional temporary signage. 8. Commissioner Steding_ stated that she had no objection to Mr. Daughtry's request for a free standing temporary sign for a period of six months. She was not in favor of approving Plans A, H, or I because Exhibit "I" and "H" are confusing as to what they are attempting to explain. If the goal is to put a single sign on that structure to identify the tenants are in occupancy this could be done fairly easily. 9. Commissioner Zelles stated he concurred with the idea of one sign identifying all the tenants on a monument sign, but under no circumstances should they approve a freestanding sign for each use. 10. Commissioner Mosher stated that he understood the need for rapidly approving a sign for the tenant, but felt the details on the sign program were difficult. He stated that he needed to have more knowledge of the City Codes and at present he lacked that knowledge due to this being his first meeting. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 5 - 11. Commissioner Barrows stated that she was - concerned with the possibility of having additional tenants coming in and asking for temporary signage. 12. Chairman Moran stated that she had the same concerns as before. The proposed plan does not clearly state what they are approving. The Commission needs to clearly see what the owner is proposing. The tenants need to advertise in order to conduct business and this needs to be approved as soon as possible. She inquired of Staff if there was any way a temporary sign could be approved. Planning Director Jerry Herman stated that Staff could only approve a "Grand Opening" banner or sign for 30-days. 13. Chairman Moran stated that she was inclined to continue the matter and require some dialog between the Applicant and the Commission during a Study Session. 14. Chairman Moran stated her concern with putting tenants names on a monument sign, is -- that the tenant names would have to be so small you would not be able to see them. There should be a monument sign for the building, with a directory sign for the tenants on the wall. 15. Commissioner Zelles expressed his opinion that freestanding signs of any nature should not be allowed for any period of time. 16. Discussion followed among the Commissions as to the different options that were possible. Following the discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Steding to approve the temporary sign for the tenant not to exceed six months and continue the sign program to a later date for clarification. Commissioner Mosher seconded the motion. Discussion followed as to how many tenants were in the building and the time frame for the permanent sign. Following this discussion, Commissioner Mosher withdrew his second. The motion died for lack of a second. 17. Commissioner Zelles again stated that this was for a temporary sign and even the owner did not know when the permanent sign was to be installed. This would lend itself to having several temporary signs placed all around the building. Commissioner Steding MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 6 - stated that she felt this would put the pressure on the owner of the building to put the permanent sign program in place. 18. Following the discussion it was moved by Commissioner Zelles and seconded by Commissioner Steding to continue the matter to their meeting of July 24th and schedule a Study Session at 5:30 P.M. on July 24, 1990, requiring the Applicant to submit a proposal that clearly states what the Commission is approving. 19. Planning Director Jerry Herman asked of the Commission to clarify what they were requesting of the Applicant. Chairman Moran stated that what they wanted was a proposal that showed what they would be approving and the time frame as to when the signs would be installed. B. Citrus Clubhouse; a request of Landmark Land Company for approval of revised architecture for the Citrus Course Golf Clubhouse at Oak Tree West. 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Commissioner Zelles asked what the decision of the Design Review Board had been. Principal Planner Sawa stated the Design Review Board had recommended approval of the ~ project to the Planning Commission. 3. There being no further discussion, Commissioner Zelles moved and Commissioner Steding seconded to adopt Minute Motion 90-026 approving the revised architecture plans for the Citrus Golf Clubhouse as submitted. Unanimously approved. C. Tract 23935; a request of GWR Developers for review of proposed single family dwelling elevations. 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 7 - 2. Commissioner Zelles questioned Staff as to their recommendation on roof tiles. Principal Planner Sawa stated that Staff felt there should be more of a variety throughout the project. 3. Chairman Moran asked if this project had been before the Design Review Board. Principal Planner Sawa stated that this project had been approved before the Design Review Board was formed. 4. Following discussion regarding detailing on the right and rear of the second story of Unit B and the right elevation of Unit C and two additional roof tiles, it was moved by Commissioner Steding and seconded by Commissioner Mosher to adopt Minute Motion 90-027 approving the elevations subject to the above changes. Unanimously approved. D. DesiGn review of Avenida Fernando Gatehouse; a request of La Quinta Joint Venture for review of relocated gatehouse design and associated landscaping as required by Condition of Approval for Tentative Tract 25237. 1. PrinciPal Planner Stan_ Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. There being no questions, Commissioner Zelles moved and Commissioner Barrows seconded the motion to adopt Minute Motion 90-028 approving the gatehouse plans and associated landscaping as submitted. Unanimously approved. E. Street Vacation 90-012; a request of the City for a General Plan consistency finding regarding the vacation of 54th Avenue west of Jefferson Street. 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Chairman Moran asked for a clarification as to the response from the Kennedy's, property owners on the north side of 54th Avenue. Planning Director Jerry Herman stated that at present the Kennels do not have any problem MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 8 - with the vacation, but when the matter goes before the City Council it will be a Public Hearing and they can make any comments they have at that time. 3. There being no further discussion, Commissioner Steding moved and Commissioner Zelles moved to adopt Minute Motion 90-029 approving Street Vacation 90-012 determining that the vacation of 54th Avenue approximately 1500 feet west of Jefferson as shown on the Exhibit is in compliance with the Circulation Element of the General Plan. Unanimously adopted. VI. CONSENT CALENDAR Chairman Moran asked that the Minutes be amended in regard to the spelling of Mr. Metkus. Commissioner Zelles moved to approve the Minutes of June 26, 1990 with the above correction. Commissioner Steding seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Commissioners Mosher moved to further amend the Minutes of June 26, 1990, on page 7, item 6 to read La Quinta Palms rather that La Quinta Highlands. Commissioner Steding seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VII. OTHER Chairman Moran asked that Staff itemize items for the "Future Agenda Items" for future discussion. ADJOURNMENT A motion was made by Commissioner Zelles and seconded by Commissioner Steding to adjourn to a regular meeting on July 24, 1990, at 7:00 P.M. in the La Quinta City Hall, 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California. This meeting of the La Quinta Planning Commission was adjourned at 8:46 P.M. MIN7/10.DFT/BJ - 9 -