PCMIN 01 14 1992 MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION - CITY OF LA QUINTA
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California
January 14, 1992 7'00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairwoman Barrows.
The Flag Salute was led by Commissioner Marts.
II. ROLL CALL
A. Chairwoman Barrows requested the roll call. Present' Commissioners
Mosher, Ladner, Ellson, Marts, and Chairwoman Barrows.
B. Staff Present' Planning Director Jerry Herman, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa, Associate Planner Greg Trousdell, and Department Secretary
Betty Anthony.
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Preannexation Zoning 91-068 and General Plan Amendment 91-039; a
request of Valley Land Development to change the boundaries for the
zoning classification and a new zoning classification and land use
designation for a portion of the property adjacent to Washington Street.
1. At the request of the Applicant, Commissioner Ellson moved and
Commissioner Ladner seconded a motion to table the applications.
The matter would be re-noticed at the request of the Applicant.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher, Marts,
Ladner, Ells on, & Chairwoman
Barrows. NOES: None. AB SENT:
None. ABSTAINING: None.
C. Plot Plan 91-466 and Variance 91-019; a request of Simon Plaza to
develop a mixed use commercial complex which will include the
development of multiple story buildings and a four level parking
structure on 5.5+ acres zoned Scenic Highway Commercial. A variance
is requested to reduce the on-site off-street parking standards and to
deviate from the setback requirements of the Municipal Code.
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l. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information
contained in the Staff report, and presented the information
contained in the shared parking study received that day, a copy
of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department.
2. Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer explained to the Commission
the amount of right-of-way needed for the radius at Highway ] 11
and Washington Street (r=55' curb radius return).
3. There being no questions of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows opened
the Public Hearing. Mr. Philip Pead, applicant, addressed the
Commission regarding his project. Mr. John Sanborn gave a
review of the computer architectural renderings presented to the
Commission at the meeting.
4. Commissioner Marts asked the Applicant what the setback was for
the office complex on the renderings. Mr. Sanborn stated it is
shown as it exists today.
5. Mr. Pead continued his presentation and stated his concern
regarding conditions #14, #16, #18, #25.C, 25.E, 25.J, #38, #40-
#45, #49, #53, #60, #64, and #65.
6. Commissioner Mosher asked how much acreage would be required
to widen Washington Street. Mr. Pead clarified that if the City
were to just widen Washington Street it would cause the existing
corner parcel to be undevelopable thus requiring the City to buy
the entire parcel.
7. Commissioner Ellson asked what the original acreage of the
property was. Mr. Pead stated it was originally 13 acres. Mr.
Fred Simon, owner, stated that Simon Motors was on 5.2 acres,
the corner parcel was originally 9.7 acres and 5.66 after the
dedication. He further stated that the construction of Simon
Drive was done at the request of the County. Commissioner
Ellson asked if the road was required in order to give Simon
Motors an entrance off Highway 111. Mr. Simon stated it was
not. Commissioner Ellson asked the Applicant to explain how the
drainage was to be handled. Mr. Sanborn stated the original
project had dry wells installed. He stated they would allow the
City to install storm drains to accommodate the entire area. The
water would egress into an underground system.
8. There being no further questions of the Applicant and as no one
else wished to address the Commission regarding this matter,
Chairwoman closed the Public Hearing.
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9. Commissioner Lad'~i-a~i(ed Staff to clarify what they were
recommending in Condition #38 regarding setbacks. Staff
explained that the landscape setbacks are a standard
Engineering Department condition. Commissioner Ladner then
asked Staff to explain the Redevelopment funding process.
Planning Director Jerry Herman explained that the disbursement
of Redevelopment funds was at the total discretion of the
Redevelopment Agency which is made up of the members of the
City Council. Funds are distributed at the discretion of the
Agency. Commissioner Ladner asked if the Variance addressed
the two story building or is it addressed in Condition #25 of the
plot plan. Staff stated it was covered in Condition #25.F.
10. Commissioner Ellson asked how the servicing of the restaurants,
etc. would be handled. She suggested that the Applicant
consider moving the building next to Simon Motors to the west
allowing a back alley access to the buildings. Discussion followed
relative to truck deliveries and trash enclosure location
alternatives. Commissioner Ellson then asked if the parcels
presently subdivided would have to comply with the current
setbacks. Planning Director Jerry Herman stated they would
have to comply. Discussion followed as to the density of this
project versus the project to the north.
11. Chairwoman Barrows inquired as to what the Applicant would be
doing for the Art in Public Places display. Mr. Pead stated it
was planned to be in the area of the octagon restaurant.
Discussion followed as to alternative locations.
12. Commissioner Ellson stated she felt the design needed to have
some additional architecture elements (e. g. fountain) to make it
stand out because the project is located at the City's main
entrance.
13. Chairwoman Barrows stated her concern that the project
landscaping should include the use of a desert tolerant plant
pallet.
14. Commissioner Mosher stated his concern regarding the proposed
landscaping setbacks and proposed building heights on
Washington Street. He felt the planning integrity of Washington
Street would be violated if this project were allowed to proceed
as proposed. He further stated he did not feel the Applicant
addressed the concerns expressed to them at the last meeting.
15. There being no further discussion it was moved by Commissioner
Mosher to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 92-001 denying
Variance 91-019. Commissioner Ellson seconded the motion.
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ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ladner, Ellson, & Chairwoman
Barrows. NOES: CommissionerMarrs.
ABSENT: None. ABSTAINING: None.
Commissioner Mosher moved and Commissioner Ellson seconded a
motion to adopt Minute Motion 92-001 approving Plot Plan 91-466
subject to the amended conditions as follows:
#37. b. Be corrected to read 55 foot curb return and 45 foot
right-of-way.
#70. To be added: Provide truck delivery and trash pick
up facilities subject to Planning Staff approval.
The motion carried with Commissioner Marts voting No.
Commissioner Ellson stated she felt the Commission was upholding
their past actions by restricting building heights along
Washington Street to one story and that the Planning Commission
should be more restrictive on their conditions and City Council
should make changes if they feel they are warranted.
Chairwoman Barrows stated her agreement.
The Commission recessed for a ten minute break.
C. Tentative Tract 25154, Extension #1: a request of Valley Land
Development for approval of a First One Year Time Extension of Time
to create 98 single family lots.
1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information
contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Planning and Development Department.
2. Commissioner Mosher asked Staff to explain how much of the
street right -of-way was on private property and what
procedures were available to acquire the land.
3. Commissioner Ladner asked if the City was still in negotiations
with the Bangeters for a land swap. Planning Director Jerry
Herman stated the Bangeters were still working on an alternative
location.
4. Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer explained to the Commission
that Sagebrush currently has a private easement for the street
and the City would like to have a public ownership.
5. There being no further questions of Staff Chairwoman Barrows
opened the Public Hearing. Mr. Tom Thornburgh, applicant,
stated the project was three to four weeks from recording and
would be starting construction in 30-40 days.
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6. Commissioner Ladner~'~Sked Mr. Thornburgh if he would be
selling homes or lots. Mr. Thornburgh stated lots only.
7. Mr. Gary Arise, Parc La Quinta Homeowner's Association, spoke
concerning the problem of blowsand. The Association would like
to see the condition regarding controlling the sand enforced. He
further stated they were working with the Applicant regarding
the emergency access through Parc La Quinta.
8. Ms. Rosie Zamarripa, Sagebrush resident, stated her concern
regarding Sagebrush being the only access for the project.
Discussion followed regarding access on Date Palm Drive and the
City Council's past action on Tentative Tract 26148. It was noted
that the Date Palm Drive connection to 50th Avenue was deleted
because the neighbors in the area were opposed.
9. Commissioner Ladner asked if the Applicant would be required to
participate in the cost of the signal at Sagebrush and Washington
Street. Staff stated it was included in the Conditions of
Approval.
10. There being no further discussion, Chairwoman Barrows closed
the Public Hearing and opened the matter for Commission
discussion.
11. Discussion followed relative to how Tract 26148 to the south,
could be conditioned to require Date Palm to be continued to 50th
Avenue.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved by
Commissioner Mosher and seconded by Commissioner Marts to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 92-002 approving a First
One Year Time Extension of Time for Tentative Tract 25154.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ladner, Ellson, Marts, & Chairwoman
Barrows. NOES: None. ABSENT:
None. ABSTAINING: None.
V. PUBLIC COMMENT:
1. Mr. Gary Avise, Parc La Quinta Homeowner's Association, addressed the
Commission regarding the problem of satellite dishes in their tract.
2. Ms. Audrey Ostrowsky, Cove resident, addressed the Commission regarding
guest house problems in the Cove.
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VI. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Si~n Application 91-159; a request of Simon Plaza to install a shopping
center identification sign, directional signs and multiple building signs
for a future office/commercial facility planned on five and one half
acres.
]. At the request of the Applicant, Commissioner Ladner moved and
Commissioner Marts seconded a motion to continue this matter
until the City Council has reviewed their actions on Plot Plan 91-
466. Unanimously approved.
B. Street Vacation 91-019; a request of the City for determination of the
La Quinta General Plan consistency with a proposed street vacation.
]. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained
in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and
Development Department.
2. Commissioner Ellson asked Staff who would obtain ownership of
the land. Staff stated it would be divided between the four
adjacent property owners.
3. Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer stated the triangular lot
would be the recipient of the majority of the land but would not
get full entitlement. Discussion followed regarding the shape of
the lots and the proposed wall on Washington Street to close off
Avenida La Fonda.
4. There being no further discussion, Commissioner Marts moved
and Commissioner Ladner seconded a motion to adopt Minute
Motion 92-002 adopting the findings that the vacation of the
portion of Calle Paloma and Washington Street is in compliance
with the Circulation Element of the General Plan.
C. General Plan Consistency of Proposed Whitewater River Slope
Construction Program: A request of the City for General Plan
consistency.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained
in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and
Development Department.
2. Commissioner Marts asked Staff if the height of the concrete
Stormwater Channel by the Cliffhouse Restaurant was excessive.
Staff explained that the Coachella Valley Water District
determines the height and it is probably based on 100 year flood
design standards.
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3. Commissioner Ladner asked who was financially responsible.
Staff stated that CVWD was responsible.
4. There being no further discussion, it was moved by
Commissioner Ellson and seconded by Commissioner Mosher to
adopt Minute Motion 92-003 approving the Genera! Plan
consistency of the proposed Whitewater River Slope Construction
Program. Unanimously approved.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Commissioner Ellson asked that the Minutes of December 10, 1992, be
amended as follows: Page 6, Item D.2. the word their be there; Page
7, Item #8, the word soccer be saucer. There being no further
correction, Commissioner Mosher moved and Commissioner Marts
seconded a motion to approve the Minutes as corrected. Unanimously
approved.
VIII. OTHER
A. Planning Director Jerry Herman asked the Commissioners for their
input regarding the development of Annexation #5 area. The following
concerns were expressed by the Commissioners:
1. Provide narrower streets to enhance rural feeling.
2. Provide larger minimum lot sizes for R-1 zones (i.e., R-1 10,000,
R-1 15,000, R-1 20,000 etc.).
3. Maintain a rural atmosphere.
4. Provide new planned development overlay (PD) which can be
utilized in R-1 zones. This would allow normal detached lots with
common areas and facilities such as an equestrian center and trail
system throughout the subdivision.
5. Provide subdivisions with larger perimeter landscape areas
adjacent to major arterials. These landscaping areas could vary
in size from 50 feet to 100 feet or more.
6. Provide through the PUD process developments having smaller
lots in conjunction with large open space areas spread out
throughout the subdivision.
7. Create additional land use density categories. Presently there
is a very low (0-2) and low density (2-4) categories. Additional
categories such as 0-1 dwelling units per acre, 1-2 dwelling units
per acre, 2-3 dwelling units per acre, 3-4 dwelling units per acre
could be created.
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B. Overview of Specific Plan 91-012 and Change of Zone 91-070, the
Tucker Development.
1. Planning Director Jerry Herman presented a brief overview of
the proposed project and the Commission asked questions
regarding the ownership of the land and the timing of the
project.
C. Discussion of accessory structures.
1. The Commissioners identified what accessory structures were and
instructed Staff to contact other cities to determine possible
alternative to solving the problem.
D. Planning Director Jerry Herman informed the Commissioners there
would be a joint meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission
on Wednesday, February 12, 1992, for the Genera! Plan Update.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Ladner and seconded by Commissioner Marts to
adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular meeting on
January 28, 1992, at 7:00 P.M. in the La Quinta City Hall Council Chambers. This
meeting of the La Quinta Planning Commission was adjourned at 10:00 P.M., January
14, 1992.
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