PCMIN 12 08 1992 MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION- CITY OF LA QUINTA
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, CaLifornia
December 8, 1992 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. The meeting was called to order at 7:05 P.M. by Chairwoman Barrows;
Commissioner Ellson led the flag salute.
II. ROLL CALL
A. Chairwoman Barrows requested the roll call. Present: Commissioners Mosher,
Ell.son, Marrs, Adolph, and Chairwoman Barrows.
B. Staff Present: Planning Director Jerry Herman and Principal Planner Stan Sawa,
and Department Secretary Betty Anthony.
Ill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Tentative Tract 26718, continued public hearinr; a request of Walter Hansch for
approval of a tentative tract map to create 125 single family lots on 39+ acres
in the R-1 Zone.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. Commissioner Adolph asked Staff to explain how the acae~ onto
Jefferson Street would be controlled. Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer
stated the entrance would be designed for right turn-in and out and left
turn-in only would be designed to prohibit any left turns out.
3. Commissioner Adolph inquired if the perimeter wall would be designed
similar to the Citrus Course across the street. Staff stated that the Design
Review Board would probably condition the tract to do so.
_ 4. Commissioner Adolph asked Staff what would happen to the street
improvements in front of the "not a part" section of Jefferson Street.
Staff stated a transition would be made down to a single lane.
Commissioner Ellson asked if the "not a part' improvements could be
made at the same time and the "not a part" conditioned to reimburse the
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costs. Staff stated they could but the City could not guarantee the
reimbursement or whether or not the fight-of-way could be obtained.
5. Chairwoman Barrows asked Staff if the developer could be conditioned to
maintain citrus trees. Staff stated they could be conditioned to be
compatible with the Citrus Course across the street.
6. Commissioner Ellson inquired how many two story units would be
allowed and the height limits. Staff stated they would be the same as the
conditions on 'The Grove' development (on 50th Avenue).
7. There being no further questions of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows opened
the public hearing. Mr. Walter Hansch, applicant, stated they had gone
ahead with the easements and he had no problems with the Staff
recommendations.
8. Mr. Sumbad Kanlian, applicant for Tentative Tract 26885 to the north,
asked for clarification on Condition ff23.
9. Ms. Susan Williams, J. F. Davidson, representative for the project, stated _
they had no problem with the conditions as submitted and amended.
10. Mrs. Wanda Reese, resident to the north of the project, read a letter of
objection to the project into the record. She stated the density was too
high and should be limited to one house per acre.
11. Mr. Wayne Mayfield, property owner to the north, stated his concern for
the traffic, noise, water consumption, and the density.
12. Mr. Keith Reese, resident to the north, stated his concern about losing his
lifestyle of a rural atmosphere.
13. Mr. Jeff Cole, property owner to the north, stated his concern about
residential houses complaining about horse property in the vicinity. He
felt the country lifestyle should be maintained.
14. Ms. Susan W'flliams stated the current zoning for the area was R-1 or
7,200 square feet and they had upgraded that to 10,000 square feet to
maintain the feeling of open space. Mr. Kanlian stated he had requested
the upgrade in order to address the concern of his neighbors.
15. Mr. Keith Reese asked if the project had been conditioned to have sewer
and water. Staff stated they had.
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16. There being no further public comment, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public hearing and opened the matter for Commission discusfion.
17. Commissioner Ellson asked Staff to clarify the location of the project in
relation to the neighbors who had addressed the Commission.
18. Commissioner Adolph asked Staff to clarify what would happen to the
road easement to the east of Mr. Mayfield. Staff stated it was too narrow
to develop and no specific determination had been made concerning it.
Staff felt the most effective use of the easement would be to sell it to one
of the property owners adjoining it.
19. Commissioner Ellson stated her concern that Mr. Cole's property on the
southeast corner of 50th Avenue and Jefferson would be landlocked
regarding any area to ride horses on.
20. Commissioner Marrs stated he felt the community should have been
present during the General Plan meetings to make their concerns known
regarding equestrian areas. He further stated that a condition should be
required of the developer to notify any prospective buyers that horses
were in the area.
21. Commissioner Mosher stated his agreement with Commissioner Marrs and
that the developer should only be conditioned within the parameters of
what the General Plan called for.
22. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Mosher
and seconded by Commissioner Marrs to adopt Planning Commissioner
Resolution 92-046 recommending approval of a Negative Declaration and
Tentative Tract 26718 to the City Council, with following amend~
conditions:
a. Condition g23. That the number of two story units be the same as -
'The Grove' development.
b. Condition #38. Add verbiage to require reimbursement to
Landmark Land Company for the street improvements.
c. A new condition be added requiring the developer to notify any
prospective buyers that horses are in the area.
-- d. A new condition be added requiring the developer to inco~om~
citrus trees into the project.
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ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
EIlson, Marrs, & Adolph. NOES:
Chairwoman Barrows. ABSENT:
None. ABSTAINING: None.
B. Tentative Tract 26885. continued public hearinr; a request of Sumbad and
Sharron Kanlian for approval of a mmafive tract map to create 73 single family
lots on 23+ acres in the R-1 Zone.
1. Principal Planner Start Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. Commissioner Adolph stated he felt Lot 'I' was too small for a dwelling.
Staff stated it would be a common area. Discussion followed regarding
street access at Lot 'F~.
3. Commissioner Mosher asked if the two tracts would have one or two
homeowner's associations. Staff stated that would depend on the
developers.
4. Commissioner Ellson asked w'mt would happen if one tract develops and
the other does not. Staff stated that the street access would be required
irregardless of which tracts are built first.
5. There being no further questions of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows opened
the public hearing. Ms. Susan Williams, J. F. Davidson, representative
for the project stated their agreement with the Staff recommendations as
stated and amended.
6. Mr. Sumbad Kanlian, owner of the tentative tract, stated that the two
owners of the tracts had approached the owners of the 'not a part' but
could not come to any agreement. He further stated that whoever
developed the two tracts would probably purchase the ten acre "not a part'
parcel and incorporate it into the tract developments.
7. Mr. Jeff Cole, property owner to the north, stated his concern about the
number of access points onto Jefferson Street. He felt with the two tracts
and possibly the development of the 'not a pan' this would make three
access points onto Jefferson Street and this could be a traffic problem.
When his property was developed he was uncertain as to where his access
points would be. Assistant City. Engineer Steve Speer reviewed with Mr.
Cole how the General Plan had designated the area in regard to full turn
access points.
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8. Commissioner Adolph ~q~ired if the 'not a part' was fled into the two
tracts would the n°~erl~~ ~trance be required to be closed and the full
turn access at the 'not a part' be the only access. Staff stated this would
be difficult to condition. Discussion followed regarding street access
points.
9. There being no further public comment, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public hearing and opened the matter for Commission discussion.
10. Commissioner Adolph asked if it was possible to have a buffer for the
horse people to help defuse the change in density. Discussion followed
regarding the eventual development of the area. Commissioner Ellson
suggested that the northern part of the project be required to only have
one story units (Lots 53-73). Commissioner Mosher felt it was unfair to
condition the developer. It should be allowed to develop according to the
housing market demand.
11. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Mosher
and seconded by Commissioner Marrs to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 92-047 recommending approval of a Negative Declaration and
-- Tentative Tract 26855 to thc City Council subject to conditions as
recommended and amended as follows:
a. Condition #10. That the developer be required to reimburse
Landmark Land Company for the street improvements.
b. Add a condition requiring an emergency a~ be provided for the
ten acre parcel 'not a part'.
e. A new condition be added requiring the developer to notify any
prospective buyers that horses are in the area.
d. A new condition be added requiring the developer to incorporate
citrus trees into the project.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ellson, Man's, & Adolph. NOES:
Chairwoman Barrows. ABSENT:
None. ABSTAINING: None.
B. Tentative Tract 26148; a request of Robert A. Wfight/AMCOR Realty Fund III
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for approval of a one year extension of time for an approved tentative tract map
which divides 14 acres into 55 single family lots.
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1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. Commissioner Ellson asked if the perimeter fence would be open or
closed. Staff stated that would probably be determined after the noise
study was completed as the project would have to mitigate traffic noise.
Discussion followed relative to the location of the fence and the design.
3. There being no further questions of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows opened
the public hearing. Mr. Bob Mainiero, representing the applicant, stated
the final landscaping plans would come back before the Planning
Commission and could possibly design a fence to have open spaces. He
further stated his concern with Condition g27.b, regarding the storm drain
easement, that if the City does the work will they replace any landscaping,
etc., to make the area look the same as that which had been completed by
the developer. Staff stated this was the City's practice. Mr. Mainiero
stated he had no objections to the Staff recommendations.
4. There being no further public comment, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public hearing and opened the matter for Commission discussion.
5. Commissioner Ellson asked Staff to clarify the location of the south
property line.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Adolph
and seconded by Commissioner Marrs to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 92-048 recommend approval to the City Council of a one year
extension of time for Tentative Tract 26148, subject to conditions.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ellson, Marts, Adolph, &
Chairwoman Barrows. NOES:
None. ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: None.
IV. PUBLIC COMMENT: - None
V. BUSINESS SESSION:
A. Community Park North; a request of the City for review of conceptual plans for
an 18-acre park site located at the northeast corner of Adams Street and
Westward Ho Drive.
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I. Parks and Recreation Manager Clint Bohlcn presented the information
contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
and Development Department.
2. Commissioner Adolph asked how deep the pond would be and how the
City would hand the liability problem. Staff stated that the pond would
be approximately two feet deep and the liability factor would be handled
as suggested by the City Attorney.
3. Commissioner Ellson asked if the developer to the north (Topaz) could be
required to incorporate their retention basin into the park. Staff stated this
would probably be advantageous.
4. Commissioner Adolph asked how the lighting would be mitigated. Staff
stated the lighting would be state-of-the-art lighting and would mitigate the
problem as far as it was possible. The lighting proposed was designed to
be anti-glare and would not spill beyond the ballfields.
5. Commissioner Adolph inquired what the base of the pond would be. Staff
stated it would be concrete.
6. There being no further comment, it was moved by Commissioner Ellson
and seconded by Commissioner Mosher to adopt Minute Motion 92-040
approving the Community Park North concept as submitted. Unanimously
approved.
B. Fritz Bums Park; a request of the City for review of community park conceptual
plans for a 9.6 acre park site located on the east side of Avenida Bermudas
between the new 52nd Avenue and the old 52nd Avenue.
1. Parks and Recreation Manager Clint Bohlen presented the information
contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
and Development Department.
2. Chairwoman Barrows asked if any boxing activities were being planned
for the facility and if not could they be incorlxnated into the plans. Staff
stated there would be no problem in doing so.
3. Commissioner Marrs inquired if the City could consider having the local
school bands perform concerts, dances, etc. in the facility.
4. Commissioner Ellson asked what the building height would be. Staff
stated it was a community facility and could be a two story facility.
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5. Discussion followed regarding the phasing of the two parks and possible
funding ideas.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Mosher
and seconded by Commissioner Ellson to adopt Minute Motion 92-041
approving the conceptual drawings as submitted. Unanimously approved.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. There being no corrections Commissioner Ellson moved that the Minutes of
November 24, 1992, be approve as submitted. Commissioner Marts seconded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
VII. OTHER- None
VIH. AD.IOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Adolph and seconded by Commissioner Mosher to
adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular meeting on January 12,
1993, at 7:00 P.M. at the La Quinta City Hall Council Chambers. This meeting of
the La Quinta Planning Commission was adjourned at 9:27 P.M., December 8, 1992.
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