PCMIN 06 08 1993 PLANNING COMMISSION- CITY OF LA QUINTA
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California
June 8, 1993 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. The meeting was called to order at 7:07 P.M. by Chairwoman Barrows who led
the flag salute.
II. ROLL CALL
A. Chairwoman Barrows requested the roll call. Present: Commissioners Mosher,
Ellson, Marrs, Adolph, and Chairwoman Barrows.
B. Staff Present: Planning Director Jerry Herman, Principal Planner Stan Sawa, and
Department Secretary Betty Sawyer.
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Tentative Tract 26853; a request of A & H Desert Properties '90 for a first
extension of time.
1. Associate Planner Leslie Mouriquand-Cherry presented the information
contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
and Development Department.
2. Following questions of Staff regarding the location of the project and the
surrounding projects, Chairwoman Barrows opened the public hearing.
There being no one wishing to speak, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public hearing.
3. Commissioners Mosher/Marrs moved to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 93-022 recommending to the City Council approval of a first
one year time extension for Tentative Tract 26853, subject to conditions.
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ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ellson, Marrs, Adolph, &
Chairwoman Barrows. NOES:
None. ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: None.
B. SR Adjustment 93-007; a request of LQC, Inc. to deviate from the existing
provisions of the SR Zoning Code which does not allow more than five unsold
homes to be under construction by a single applicant at one time.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. There being no questions of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows opened the public
hearing. Mr. Randy Wessman, applicant, stated he supported StaWs
recommendations.
3. Commissioner Adolph asked Mr. Wessman what the price range would
be on the homes. Mr. Wessman stated $125,000 and lower.
Commissioner Adolph asked Mr. Wessman if he felt he would be able to
sell the houses in a reasonable amount of time to avoid the problem of
unsold houses sitting vacant in La Quinta. Mr. Wessman stated he felt he
could. Commissioner Adolph asked if the houses would be maintained
until sold. Mr. Wessman stated they would be.
4. There being no further public comment, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public heating.
5. Commissioners Ellson/Adolph moved to adopt Minute Motion 93-025 to
approve SR Adjustment 93-007, subject to the attached conditions.
Unanimously approved.
C. Conditional Use Permit 93-007; a request of McDonalds Corporation for approval
to allow construction and operation of a fast food restaurant with a drive-thru
lane.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
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2. Commissioner Adolph asked Staff if the applicant was required to submit
a special request for larger signs. Staff stated they were.
3. Chairwoman Barrows asked Staff what the size of the signs were in
comparison to each other. Discussion followed regarding the signage.
4. Commissioner Ellson asked Staff if one sign style was more compatible
with the Center than the other. Staff stated the block would probably be
more compatible but the Commission had approved different sign styles
for other national chain stores in the Center.
5. Chairwoman Barrows opened the public hearing. Mr. Rob Jenkins,
representing the applicant, spoke regarding the project.
6. Commissioner Ellson asked Mr. Jenkins to explain what the grey area was
on the plot plan. Mr. Jenkins stated this was the concrete surface for the
trash enclosure. Commissioner Ellson then questioned where the sidewalk
on the east side went to. Mr. Jenkins stated it went over to the additional
parking. Commissioner Ellson questioned the parking on the north side
-- of the building. Her concern was that the cars backing out would be
backing directly into through traffic. Mr. Jenkins pointed out this was the
same parking as was throughout the Center.
7. Commissioner Ellson questioned the handrail on the north elevation
extending out so far. Mr. Jenkins stated this was to keep children from
darting out into traffic. Commissioner Ellson asked if a bicycle rack
would be provided. Mr. Jenkins stated there were plans to have one.
Commissioner Ellson asked if there was an exit from the play structure to
the outside. Mr. Jenkins stated there was.
8. Commissioner Ellson asked the applicant if it was possible to move the
play structure to the east side of the building. Mr. Jenkins stated they had
considered this but the building did not lay out correctly. There was not
enough room.
9. Chairwoman Barrows asked the applicant about the location of the
playground trellis. Mr. Jenkins explained the location. Chairwoman
Barrows stated there needed to be more screening of the play structure
from Highway 111. Mr. Jenkins stated they were trying to compete with
Carl's Jr. and suggested using a more muted color for the play structure
-- to help cut down on the visibility. Discussion followed regarding
available colors.
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10. Commissioner Marrs asked if the play structure was ventilated. Mr.
Jenkins stated it was.
11. Commissioner Adolph asked if the applicant planned on flying the
McDonalds flag. He concern was that this was additional signage and he
would not approve this. He asked that Staff stipulate in the Conditions of
Approval that no McDonalds flag be allowed. Staff noted that this
condition was included in the Conditions of Approval.
12. Commissioner Adolph questioned the artistry of the elevation drawings as
they did not show the sign pilasters at the ends as they would appear. He
stated he concern that the pilasters were not connected to the roof and
appeared as billboards. He felt they needed to be connected to the
building. Lengthy discussion followed regarding the sign pilasters.
13. Commissioner Mosher asked the applicant if this script type of sign had
been utilized anywhere. Mr. Jenkins stated this was the first time the
script sign would be used on the west coast.
14. Chairwoman Barrows stated that the landscaping plans show the use of
Purple Fountain grass and she would like to see this replaced. Mr.
Jenkins stated that Staff had already pointed this out and it had been
changed. Chairwoman Barrows also stated she would like to see the wall
signs smaller in size. Mr. Jenkins stated he had no problem with bringing
the signs down to the 50 square foot allowable size.
15. Commissioner Ellson asked what the height of Carl's Jr. was. Staff stated
they were about the same. Discussion followed regarding building
heights and the sign pilasters.
16. Commissioner Adolph again reiterated that the roof needed to be tied into
the tower structures. Discussion followed regarding possible alternatives.
17. Commissioner Ellson stated her concern that the signs were freestanding
signs that were not attached to the building.
18. Commissioner Mosher asked if the sign facade was a load bearing wall.
Mr. Jenkins stated it was not.
19. Commissioner Marrs asked that the applicant lower the tower structures.
Mr. Jenkins stated his objection as he felt it would change the
architectural look. He further stated that he would use earth tones with
accents for the play structure and would consider lowering the tower
structures two feet.
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20. There being no further public comment, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public hearing.
21. Commissioner Ellson expressed her concern for the traffic circulation and
safety. Mr. Colm Macken asked if he could address this problem. He
stated the parking plan exists throughout the Center and as of yet there
had been no problems.
22. Commissioner Adolph stated he would like to see the turning radius at the
northern comer of the project modified.
23. Commissioner Mosher stated he felt there were four problems the
Commission needed to resolve.
a. A bicycle rack
b. Reduce the tower two feet
c. The play structure should be recolored with earth tones and one
accent color
d. The problem with the turning radius on the northerly side.
Following discussion among the Commissioners the following conditions
were added.
a. The playland structure and screening shall be of neutral earth
tones, similar to those used in the shopping center (with one accent
color permitted). Exact colors are to be submitted to the
Department of Planning and Development for review.
b. Bicycle racks shall be provided for the restaurant. The exact
location of the bicycle racks are to be reviewed by the Department
of Planning and Development.
c. The identification signage utilized on the stucco towers shall be
reduced so that the total signage per wall does not exceed 50
square feet.
d. The applicant shall review the traffic circulation pattern at the
northwest comer of the building where the drive-thru lane exits
into the driveway aisle. Revisions to this area to minimize traffic
conflicts shall be implemented, including the provision for low
--- growing landscaping only near this intersection.
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e. The stucco tower structures shall be reduced in height. The
reduction of the structures shall be proportionate to the rest of the
building and aesthetically acceptable.
f. The revised plans shall be reviewed by the Design Review Board.
Should major changes be implemented, the plans shall be further
reviewed by the Planning Commission. Determination of the need
for further Planning Commission review shall be made by the
Director of Planning and Development.
g. That all conditions of the Design Review Board shall be added to
the Conditions of Approval.
24. Following discussion regarding the above, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Mosher/Marrs to adopt Minute Motion 93-026 to approve
Conditional Use Permit 93-007, subject to the amended conditions and the
above conditions added. The motion carded on a 3-2 vote with
Commissioner Ellson and Adolph voting no.
Commissioner Adolph asked to be excused from the next public hearing due to a possible
conflict of interest.
D. Tentative Tract 27762; a request of Sunrise Desert Partners to subdivide 4.31
acres into 17 single family residential lots and two common lots.
1. Associate Planner Leslie Mouriquand-Cherry presented the information
contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
and Development Department.
2. Commissioner Ellson asked if Lots A & B are identical. Staff responded
they were.
3. There being no further comments of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows opened
the public heating. Mr. Al Levin, applicant, stated his concern regarding
Condition //25 and //9 as he felt they were in conflict and most of the
condition would already be completed. Discussion followed between the
applicant and the Commission regarding the conditions. Mr. Levin stated
that he is required to bond for the completion of the pools.
4. Commissioner Marrs explained to Mr. Levin why the Commission had put
the time schedule on the condition. Mr. Levin stated his concern was that
the pools were tied to the residential lots and these property owners had
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no interest in the pools. The pools were designed for the condominium
units. Discussion followed regarding changing the stipulation to 12
months.
5. There being no further public comment, Chairwoman Barrows closed the
public hearing.
6. Commissioner Ellson asked for clarification of the maintenance fees. Mr.
Levin explained how the homeowners' fees were paid. He further stated
that the single family dwelling homeowner fees do not pay for any of the
pool maintenance for the multi-family areas. Only the condominium units
pay pool maintenance as they are the ones who use the pools.
7. Following discussion it was determined that Condition //9 should be
changed to read "..and related amenities within 12 months of recordation
of the final map."; and condition//25 should be eliminated in its entirety.
8. Following the discussion it was moved by Commissioners Mosher/Marrs
moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 93-023 recommending
--- to the City Council approval of Tentative Tract 27762, subject to the
amended conditions.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ellson, Marts, & Chairwoman
Barrows. NOES: None.
ABSENT: None. ABSTAINING:
Commissioner Adolph
Commissioner Adolph returned to the meeting and Chairwoman Barrows excused herself from
the next item due to a possible conflict of interest.
E. Zoning Ordinance Amendment 93-034; a request of the City for consideration of
an amendment to the H-C (Hillside Conservation) Zone.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. Commissioner Adolph questioned Staff whether a General Plan
Amendment would be required. Staff stated it would not.
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3. Commissioner Marrs asked Staff to clarify the number of units that would
be allowed under the amendment. Staff stated the maximum number of
dwellling units in a residential development could be increased by 20% of
the base density allowing the transfer would not increase the number of
units identified in the General Plan, just their location.
4. Commissioner Ellson questioned why the SR Zone was exempt. Staff
stated that transfers were not allowed in the SR Zone and therefore it was
exempt.
5. There being no further questions of Staff, Vice Chairman Mosher opened
the public hearing. Ms. Paula North, representing Lusardi I.and
Company, stated she represented four property owners and went into
explain the problems they had' incurred trying to transfer development
rights.
6. Commissioner Ellson stated she thought the Bureau of Land Management
would be purchasing the land. Staff clarified the land exchange.
7. There being no further public comment, Vice Chairman Mosher closed the
public hearing.
8. Commissioners Adolph/Marrs moved to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 93-024 recommending to the City Council an Amendment to
the Municipal Code regarding changes to the H-C Zone (Hillside
Conservation).
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Commissioners Mosher,
Ellson, Marrs, and Adolph. NOES:
None. ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: Chairwoman
Barrows.
Chairwoman Barrows returned to the meeting.
IV. PUBLIC COMMENT: None
V. BUSINESS SESSION:
A. Plot Plan 93-500; a request of LANDREX for approval of off-water architectural
plans for Phase I of the Avante collection in Tract 26152, lake La Quinta for
models and single family homes.
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1. Associate Planner Leslie Mouriquand-Cherry presented the information
contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
and Development Department.
2. There being no questions of Staff, Chairwoman Barrows asked the
architect, Mr. Bob Ritchey, to address the Commission. Mr. Ritchey
answered questions raised by the Design Review Board concerning
window treatments and glazing and stated he agreed with the Staff
conditions.
3. Commissioner Adolph asked Mr. Ritchey if he would consider planting
larger trees than those requested by Condition//2. Commissioner Adolph
also questioned whether or not a guttering system and downspouts would
be used. Mr. Ritchey stated he would probably use a downspout system
in certain walkway areas.
4. Commissioner Ellson questioned the height of the project. Mr. Ritchey
stated it would be 22-feet. Commissioner Ellson stated the problem with
decorating the high windows and the control of amount of light coming in.
Discussion followed regarding suggestions for this problem.
5. Chairwoman Barrows asked if the orientation of the houses fell under
Title 24 requirements. Mr. Ritchey stated they do. Discussion followed
regarding window treatments and shade for the windows.
6. Commissioner Adolph asked if these models would be the style used
through the project. Mr. Ritchey stated they would be the basic style.
7. There being no further comments, Commissioners Mosher/Marrs moved
to adopt Minute Motion 93-027 approving the off-water architectural plans
for Phase I of the Avante collection in Tract 26152-Lake La Quinta for
models and single family homes. Unanimously approved.
Commissioner Adolph excused himself from the next item due to a possible conflict of interest.
B. Plot Plan 89-413; a request'of Ms. Heidi Murphy, O'Donnell/Atkins Company,
for approval of a second extension of time for a resort hotel and related ancillary
hotel uses within the PGA West development.
1. Planning Director Jerry Herman presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
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2. Chairwoman Barrows asked if the applicant had anything to say. Ms.
Murphy stated the project would be up for sale on July 14th and she had
no objections to the Staff's recommendations.
3. There being no further comment, Commissioners Marrs/Ellson moved to
adopt Minute Motion 93-028 recommending approval of the first one year
extension of time for Plot Plan 89-413 be approved subject to the attached
conditions. Unanimously approved with Commissioner Adolph abstaining.
Commissioner Adolph returned to the meeting.
C. Specific Plan 84-004; a request of TD Desert Development for approval of
preliminary plans for entry design on Washington Street and review of general
architectural guidelines for The Orchard project (previously The Pyramids).
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. Commissioner Adolph questioned the applicant regarding the completeness
of the plans in regards to the Design Review Board request. Mr. Chuck
Strother, applicant went over the plans with the Commission and showed
were he had made the changes per the Board's request.
3. Chairwoman Barrows asked if the model homes would come back before
the Commission for review. Staff stated they would go before the Design
Review Board and the Commission for review.
4. Mr. Strother stated he hoped to have his project under construction by
January, 1994.
5. Chairwoman Barrows stressed the use of energy efficient materials as well
as designs.
6. Commissioner Ellson asked the applicant if any of the original plans from
The Pyramids project would be utilized. Mr. Strother stated the original
land plan would be followed.
7. There being no further comment, it was moved by Commissioners
Ellson/Adolph to adopt Minute Motion 93-029 approving the preliminary
plans for the entry design for The Orchard project. Unanimously
approved.
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D. Plot Plan 93-495; a request of Simon Plaza, Inc. (Philip Pead) for review of
revised elevation plans for a commercial project on 5.6 acres in the C-P-S zone.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the
Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development
Department.
2. Mr. Phil Pead presented a new revised rendering of the project.
Commissioner Adolph asked the applicant how he felt about the project.
Mr..Pear stated they were very pleased with the way it laid out.
Commissioner Adolph asked that the restaurant be redesigned to look
more like the remaining buildings. In addition, carry the slump stone
treatment throughout all the buildings.
3. Commissioner Ellson stated she felt the project needed to be integrated
with Simon Motors more. Mr. Pead stated they will be using the same
colors to bring conformity, but they did like the diversity of the two
projects.
4. Mr. Pear asked that Condition //73 be changed to read "finish grade".
Commissioners discussed the various conditions. Following the discussion
Staff was directed to edit the conditions to show a three story building, not
a four story building. Mr. Pead expressed his concern for time delays and
would like to receive approvals as soon as possible. Commissioners stated
the project would need to return to the Design Review Board on June 23,
1993, for their review, but would only require it return to the Planning
Commission if there were any major changes made by the Design Review
Board.
5. There being no further comment, it was moved by Commissioners
Mosher/Adolph to adopt Minute Motion 93-030 approving Plot Plan 93-
495 subject to the amended conditions with the applicant to present the
revised elevations to the Design Review Board for final review and only
to return to the Planning Commission if there are any major changes.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Commissioner Mosher moved and Commissioner Adolph seconded a motion to
approve the Minutes of May 11, 1993 as submitted. Unanimously approved.
VII. OTHER- None
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VIH. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Adolph and seconded by Commissioner Ellson to adjourn
this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular meeting of the Planning
Commission on June 22, 1993, at 7:00 P.M. at the La Quinta City Hall Council Chambers.
This meeting of the La Quinta Planning Commission was adjourned at 10:48 P.M., June 8,
1993.
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