PCMIN 05 11 1999 MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
May 11, 1999 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by
Chairman Tyler who to lead the flag salute.
B. Chairman Tyler requested the roll call: Present: Commissioners Abels, Kirk,
Robbins, and Chairman Tyler. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Abel/Robbins to excuse Commissioner Butler. UnanimoUSly approved.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, City Attomey Dawn
Honeywell, Senior Engineer Steve Speer, Principal Planners Start Sawa and Fred
Baker, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confn'rned
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Tyler asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of April 27, 1999.
Commissioner Robbins asked that under Consent Items, it be corrected to read the
minutes were adopted as submitted; Page 4, Item 18, be corrected to read,
"...Jefferson Street or make a U turn to go north on Jefferson Street. Chairman Tyler
asked that Page 5, Item Title "B' be elaborated to indicate the streets involved in the
case. There being no other corrections, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioner Abels/Robbins to adopt the Minutes as corrected. UnanimoUSly
approved.
B. Department Report: None.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A-1. & A-2 Environmental Assessment 98-375. General Plan Amendment 98-060, Specific Plan
98-034. Zone Chanf, e 98-089, Tentative Tract Map 29053, and Parcel Map 9.9052:
a request of Lundin Development for approval of a Mitigated Negative Declaration
of Environmental Impact for development principles and design guidelines of a
111,000 square foot shopping center and subdivision of 12.5 acres into seven parcels
and one remainder parcel located on the northwest comer of Jefferson Street and 50t~
Avenue.
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1. Chairman Tyler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community DeVelopment. Staff went
on to state the City Attorney requested Condition #1 of the Tentative Tract
and Parcel Map and Condition #7 of the Specific Plan be modified to require
a note be recorded with the Riverside County Recorder stating there are
conditions that have been approved by the City and further information can
be obtained at City Hall regarding those conditions. In addition, staff has
added conditions of the Fire Marshal that were just received. Public Works
Department requested the following condition be added to the Tentative
Tract: "In the event any of the above improvements are constructed by the
City prior to the applicant recording a final map, the applicant shall reimburse
the City, at the time the final map is approved by the City Council for the
cost of that potion of the improvements constructed by the City that are
required by these Conditions of Approval."
2. Chairman Tyler asked staff if the Environmental Assessment applied to all
applications. Staff stated yes. Chairman Tyler asked if staff had contacted
the City of Indio regarding the possibility of alining the access at the north
end. Staff stated they had not. Chairman Tyler questioned the .proposed
name, La Quinta Vista Shopping Center, as a residential area in north La
Quinta had the name La Quinta Vistas and this could lead to some confusion.
3. Commissioner Kirk questioned the amount of landscaping and why staff was
still asking for more landscaping and less parking. Staff stated the numbers
could be changed. Commissioner Kirk questioned Condition #47 of the
Specific Plan, and asked staff why the applicant had been required to make
their checks out to Riverside County for posting of the Notice of
Determination. Staff stated the County has requested all checks be made out
to them.
4. Commissioner Robbins asked staff to clarify a condition of the Parcel Map
regarding drainage, as to .which bulletin number was correct. Senior
Engineer Steve Speer stated the bulletins are sequential in number and the
year is changed accordingly.
5. Chairman Tyler asked staff if the Commission was approving the sign
program at this time. Staff stated it is a conceptual approval of the sign
program. Chairman Tyler stated the monument signs were too much. He
questioned the use of citrus trees in the landscape plan as they can draw rats.
In addition the tree caliper size should be corrected to read 2-2-1/2 inches.
6. Chairman Tyler asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission.
Mr. Mike Smith, representing the applicant, handed out a recap of what was
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discussed at the last meeting. In regard to the extra parking spaces, they
believe their request is justified based on their previous projects. Mr. Kareem
Ali, representing Lucky Supermarkets, requested modification to Condition
~4 of the Specific Plan. Their figures are based on a minimum of five spaces
per 1000 square feet on a combination of a food and drag store. They do not
want to lose customers due to a lack of parking especially during the peak
season. In addition, they currently exceed the landscaping requirements and
request leniency. Condition #5 of Specific Plan requires them to reduce the
number of ancillary signs from five to three. This will be a hardship as they
will have a food, drag, and bank building which will all.need identification
for their services.
7. Chairman Tyler asked for a comparison in the number of parking spaces
between this store and the ones on Washington Street and Deep Canyon at
Highway 1 ll in Palm Desert. Mr. Ali stated he did not know. Each plan
changes from area to area. Chairman Tyler asked if the drag store would be
incorporated into the Lucky's. Mr. Ali stated yes as this would eliminate
overlap. Chairman Tyler stated that one of the problems with the parking lot
_~ at Hovley store is the parking stalls are perpendicular rather than angled. Mr.
Ali stated they do prefer to use the angled parking as it works better.
8. Mr. Mike Smith questioned Condition #25 of the Specific Plan. As Jefferson
Street has been planned why are they being required to file a Transportation
Demand Management Plan (TDM). Community Development Director Jerry
Herman stated the State requires the TDM to be prepared as it relates to air
quality. Mr. Smith stated this was to be done with the Jefferson Street
Improvement Plan. Staff stated the TDM is based on the number of
employees on the proposed site and has nothing to do with Jefferson Street.
9. Mr. Smith questioned Condition #27. They had agreed to give a deceleration
lane in front of each access. This condition requires the lane for the full
length of the development and they do not believe this is necessary. Senior
Engineer Steve Speer agreed that it may not be needed.
10. Mr. Smith questioned Condition ~45 of the Parcel Map and asked if Jefferson
Street was being constructed with tax money why are they being charged a
second time. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated it is a combination of
federal money, Measure A, La Quinta funds, with Coachella Valley
Association of Governments fronting some of the money in anticipation of
reimbursement. That portion the City is expected to pay will be reimbursed
by this development.
11. Mr. Greg Bever, Lundin Development, stated that in regard to the reduction
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of 27 parking stalls, their decision to have 530 parking stalls is based on a
culmination of several projects. It is their determination they need everything
submitted on their request. They have leads for restaurants and want to be
sure they can accommodate all their tenants.
12. Chairman Tyler asked how many total parking spaces were proposed for the
site. Staff stated they are proposing 530 parking spaces and staff is
recommending 503.
13. Chairman Tyler asked if anyone else would like to speak regarding this
project.
14. There being no further public comment, Chairman Tyler closed the public
participation portion of the hearing and opened the project for Commission
discussion.
15. Commissioner Abels stated he concurred with the applicant on the number
of parking stalls requested as they are looking down the road and he agrees
they will be needed in the furore.
16. Commissioner Kirk stated that in regard to Condition//7 of the Specific Plan,
he agrees this condition is excessive. City Attorney Dawn Honeywell stated
that it would be satisfactory to the City if they recorded a note stating there
are conditions on the project and they can be obtained at City Hall. It is tree
that the vast majority of the conditions will be fulfilled when the project is
built out and to have all the conditions recorded against the property would
be excessive. She would review the conditiOn further and provide
modifications to staff for furore projects.
17. Commissioner Kirk asked about the applicants request regarding upstream
drainage. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated this was addressed in
Condition #36 of the Parcel Map. He does not anticipate any concerns.
18. Commissioner Kirk stated that in regard to the parking, the applicant has
done a good job mining the point around to show his request is valid. He is
concerned about parking as he does not want to see a lot of asphalt. He
suggested the project be conditioned to provide an area for future parking, but
not constructed until the need is valid. This way he could plan for the
additional 86 spaces and not construct them till some time in the future.
19. Commissioner Robbins asked if the parking code was based on a maximum,
minimum, or was a fixed number. Staff stated they are minimums. They ..are
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not doing anything outside the Code by providing additional parking.
Commissioner Robbins stated he concurred with Commissioner Abels in that
parking is not adequate for most markets. He then asked staff to explain the
purpose of recording conditions against the property since they stand alone.
City Attorney Dawn Honeywell stated the only purpose is to notify a
prospective buyer of the requirements and that is why staff is recommending
the change. It is not something that is required and could be deleted.
20. Commissioner Robbins stated a potential problem existed with the well site
in the residential tract as the access was through the commercial Parcel Map
site. The well site is recorded with the residential and yet no access is
allowed from the residential side. He would like a condition added to address
this.
21. Chairman Tyler stated he would like the applicant to change the name of the
project. In addition, he also has a problem with the circulation plan.
Delivery tracks will have difficulty getting to and from the loading docks.
In regard to parking, as the applicant is unable to come up with comparative
figures on other projects, he concurs with Commissioner Kirk that he would
not like to have acres and acres of asphalt. Staff stated they did contact the
City of Palm Desert and the parking for the Lucky's on Highway 111 is five
parking spaces per 1000 square feet of building.
22. Commissioner Abels stated the parking is important and the Commission
should look down the road to be sure that the parking is adequate. By
reducing this down it will compound the problem at a later date.
23. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Kirk to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 99-
032 recommending to the City Council Certification of a Mitigated Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact for Specific Plan 98-034, Parcel Map
29052, General Plan Amendment 98-060, Zone Change 98-089, and
Tentative Tract map 29053.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
24. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Robbins adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 99-033 recommending to the City Council
approval of Specific Plan 98-034, subject to the Findings and Conditions as
modified:
a. Condition//4: Delete.
b. Condition//5' Three. signs shall be allowed with the option to apply
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for additional signs subject to approval by the Planning Commission.
c. Condition #7: Upon City Council approval, a memorandum noting
that City Conditions of Approval for development applications exist
and are available for review at City Hall, shall be recorded against the
property with the Riverside County Recorder's office.
d. Condition #27:" .... or a combination of dedicated fight turn lane and
onsite driveway equaling 90 feet."
e. Additional condition: The name of the project shall be changed.
f. Conditions as stated by the Fire Department in their letter of February
22, 1999, shall be added.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
25. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Kirk to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 99-034 recommending to the City Council approval
of Parcel Map 29052, subject to the Findings and Conditions as modified:
a. Condition # 1: Upon City Council approval, a memorandum noting
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that City Conditions of Approval for development applications exist
and are available for review at City Hall, shall be recorded against the
property with the Riverside County Recorder's office.
b. Add to Condition #6: "...City and CVWD for off-site well site for
emergency services and for maintenance .... '
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
26. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 99-035 recommending to the City Council
approval of General Plan Amendment 98-060.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
27. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Robbins/Kirk to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 99-036 recommending to the City Council
approval of Zone Change 98-089.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
28. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Abels to adopt Planning
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Commission Resolution 99-037 recommending to the City Council approval
of Tentative Tract 29053, subject to the Findings and conditions as
submitted/modified:
a. Condition #1: Upon City Council approval a memorandum noting
that City Conditions of approval for development applications exist
and are available for review at City Hall, shall be recorded against the
property with the Riverside County Recorder's office.
b. Condition #6: An easement shall be granted to CVWD for access into
the well site from the residential development.
c. Conditions as stated by the Fire Department in their letter of February
22, 1999, shall be added.
d. Add to Condition #47.A.5.: "In the event any of the above
improvements are constructed by the City prior to the applicant
recording a final map, the applicant shall reimburse the City, at the
time the final map is approved by the City Council, for the cost of
that portion of the improvements constructed by the City that are
required by these Conditions of Approval."
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
B. Site Development Permit 99-651; a request of Valentine Professional Services for
Laguna de la Paz Homeowners' Association for approval of clubhouse building
addition and modifications to the recreational facilities and two parking lots for the
property located on the north side of Eisenhower Drive, west of Washington Street
within Laguna de la Paz.
1. Chairman Tyler opened the public heating and asked for the staff report.
Principal Planner Start Sawa presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Tyler asked if there were any questions of staff. Commissioner
Kirk asked if the parking lot near Eisenhower was proposed or existing. Staff
stated it is an existing lot and proposed to be modified.
3. Commissioner Robbins asked how many employees use the parking lot.
Staff stated approximately six.
4.~ Chairman 'Tyler asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commissioner.. Mr. Gary Dubois and Mr. Robert Willis, representing
Valentine Professional Services, the applicant, stated they had nothing to add.
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5. Chairman Tyler asked if anyone else would like to speak regarding this
project.
6. Mr Tom Cunningham, representing the Board of Directors, stated they were
in support of the project and went on to explain the purpose of the expansion.
7. Mr. Dennis Creager, 48-231 Vista De Nopal, stated he was objecting to the
modifications to the clubhouse as it would obliterate his view of the lake and
mountains. He did not contest the amenities were needed, but the clubhouse
and tower would completely block his south and southwesterly view. The
applicant had lowered the tower to 19 feet, but it would still block his view.
The new game room, addition, and the wall on the north side will be 12 feet
high which would all block his view. The CC&R's state the purpose of this
development is to preserve the views.
8. There being no further public comment, Chairman Tyler closed the public
participation portion of the hearing and opened the matter for Commission
discussion.
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9. Commissioner Kirk asked staff if this was reviewed by the Architecture and
Landscaping Review Committee (ALRC). Staff stated it was and they
recommended approval as.submitted. Staff become aware of Mr. Creager' s
concerns after the ALRC meeting.
10. Commissioner Robbins asked if the only addition to the clubhouse was the
hallway as described by Mr. Creager. Staff stated it was not the only change,
but a considerable addition was being proposed. Mr. Deboise indicated the
addition on the plan.
11. Commissioner Robbins asked the applicant to address the concems regarding
the wall and trellis. Mr. Willis indicated the changes on the plan. Discussion
followed as t° the issues raised by Mr. Creager.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 99-
038 approving Site Development Permit 99-651, subject to Findings and
Conditions of Approval as modified:
a. New Condition fiN: The trellis arbor shall not be higher than four feet
above the grade of Mr. Creager's rear yard.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
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Chairman Tyler recessed the meeting at 8:35 p.m. and reconvened at 8:43
C. General Plan Amendment 99-062, Specific Plan 84-004 Amendment #3. and Change
of Zone 99-090; a request of T.D. Desert Development for approval to remove 30
acres of Tourist Commercial use at the comer of Avenue 48 and Jefferson Street and
replace it with Golf Course and Low Density Residential development uses; approval
of an Amendment to the Specific Plan to allow for a mixed use development
consisting of a combination of Residential, Golf Course, and Tourist Commercial
uses on 718 acres with guidelines and standards; and approval of a Zone Change
which generally removes 30 acres of Tourist Commercial use at the comer of Avenue
48 and Jefferson Street and replaces it with Golf Course and Low Density Residential
development uses within the project boundaries identified as south of Avenue 48,
North of Avenue 50, west of Jefferson Street, and east of Washington Street.
1. Chairman Tyler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department. Staff' stated that in the Tourist Commercial Planning Area II,
the applicant could build fractional ownership units but, but it is not their
intent to do this within that ten acre Tourist Commercial. They want to build
the clubhouse related uses in this ten acre site. On Avenue 48 there is an
access point at Dune Palms Road to the parking lot for the maintenance
facility and an additional access on Avenue 48 to the maintenance facility
with a fight turn in and out.
2. Chairman Tyler asked if there were any questions of staff. Commissioner
Abels asked if this was the site where a hotel was approved by the
Commission a year or so ago. Staff stated it was.
3. Commissioner Kirk asked staff to clarify why the land area of the Tourist
Commercial specified on the exhibits differed from the staff report. Staff
stated that Planning Area 2 is all Tourist Commercial. Now the Planning
Area has changed. All Low Density Residential is removed from Planning
Area 2.
4. Commissioner Kirk asked if the applicant was requesting any changes to the
development plans. Staff stated they were minor changes.
5. Chairman Tyler asked Senior Engineer Steve Speer if the changes had been
incorporated into the changes proposed for the .Jefferson Street
improvements. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated there was a full mm
movement proposed at 49~ Avenue. The applicant may need to define the
width of the access. Chairman Tyler asked about Condition #48.H. Staff
stated the applicant has participated in what has been built and the condition
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needs to be reworded. It should indicate that traffic signal changes are
needed on 48th and Dune Palms Road. Jefferson Street is addressed in
Condition #48.G. A condition needs to be added that on Jefferson Street at
49th Avenue shall have a traffic signal and the applicant will be responsible
for 50% of that cost. The last paragraph should include City incurred
expenses.
6. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Tyler asked if the
applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Forrest Haag,
representing the applicant, stated he had no additional information and was
available to answer any questions.
7. Commissioner Kirk asked if the applicant agreed with the right of ways at 28
foot minimums and could he bring it narrower. Mr. Haag stated that in a
privately gated community it becomes a management problem and Rancho
La Quinta has agreed to manage.
8. Chairman Tyler stated the Specific Plan needed to be corrected to indicate the
Tourist Commercial area. Mr. Haag stated that once a final approval is given
by the City Council, they will make the necessary changes to the final
Specific Plan document.
9. Mr. Grady Sparks, Construction manager for Rancho La Quinta, asked for
clarification on the Avenue 48 construction costs as they were never made
aware of any costs owing. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated that 48th
Avenue and Dune Palms Road have three of the four legs needed. The south
leg needs to be added to make it complete. Those improvements were not put
in and have not been charged to Rancho La Quinta. When the City makes the
improvements at this location, the applicant will be required to pay for his
portion of those improvements.
10. Mr. Sparks questioned if they were required to pay for 50%, shouldn't the
City of Indio pay for their portion. Staff stated the signal will come in the
future and at that time Rancho La Quinta will be required to pay for their
portion.
11. There being no further public comment, the public participation portion of
the hearing was closed and opened to Commission discussion.
12. Commissioner Kirk commended Mr. Haag on his presentation and he
supported staff's recommendation.
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13. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Abels to adopt Planning CommisSion Resolution 99-
039 recommending to the City Council approval of General Plan Amendment
99-062, subject to the Findings.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
14. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Robbins to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 99-040 recommending to the City Council
approval of Specific Plan 84-004 Amendment #3, subject to the Findings and
Conditions of Approval as amended:
a. Condition #1: Upon City Council approval, a memorandum noting
that the City Conditions of Approval for development applications
exist and are available for review at City Hall, shall be recorded
against the property with the Riverside County Recorder's office.
b. Condition #48.H.: Delete any reference to Jefferson Street.
_ c. Condition 48.J. The applicant shall be responsible for 50% of the
cost for a signal at 49th Avenue and Jefferson Street for City incurred
expenses only.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
15. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Robbins/Abels to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 99-041 recommending to the City Council
approval of Zone Change 99-090.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES : .None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
D. Specific Plan 97-031 Amendment #1 and Site Development Permit 99-618
Amendment # 1; a request of Catellus Residential Group for approval of entry gates
and architectural and landscaping plans for a pool facility within the single family
residential subdivision located south of Avenue 48, north of Avenue 50, west of
Jefferson Street, and east of Washington Street.
m 1. Chairman Tyler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Community Development Director Jerry Herman presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
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2. Chairman Tyler asked if there were any questions of staff. Commissioner
Kirk asked about Condition #3. Staff stated it could be addressed by the
applicant.
3. Commissioner Kirk asked if the Fire Department was requesting the entrance
to be 16 feet, or is it be mandatory. Staff will be recommending that it be 14
to 16 feet based on the Fire Department approval.
4. Chairman Tyler asked why the caliper tree size is not identified. Staff stated
the Specific Plan identifies the size of the plant material.
5. Chairman Tyler asked if the City had an increased liability for the pool due ,
to the City's assistance. City Attorney Dawn Honeywell stated the project is
privately built and owned and therefore the City is not liable.
6. Commissioner Robbins questioned why two streets were named
Bougainvillea. Staff would look into it.
7. There being no further question, Chairman Tyler asked if the applicant would
like to address the Commission. Mr. John O'Brien, representing Catellus
Residential Group, stated the purpose of the request. In regard to the
concems raised by the ALRC, they would be seeing that the foreman of the
maintenance crews have a key to the pool restrooms for their use during their
Working hours.
8. Chairman Tyler stated his concern that there would not be enough room for
two cars to go through the entry gate at one time. Mr. O'Brien stated there
will be adequate space with a stacking lane at the entrance.
9. Chairman Tyler asked about the 16 versus 14 feet entrance required by the
Fire Department. Mr. O'Brien stated they had met with the Fire Department
and they did not indicate any problem. They will, however, be working with
them to reword this condition.
10. Mr. O'Brien stated he had a concern regarding Condition #2 of the Site
Development Permit as raised by the ALRC. They will adjust the location
of the Palo Verde and Acacia trees, but object to the addition of Palm trees
as they are being used to make a statement at the entrances, and do not want
them in the pool area. He would like to request they not be required to make
the adjustments.
11. Commissioner Kirk asked about the transportation to adjacent services. Mr.
O'Brien stated this relates to the Senior Apartments take assist seniors in
getting to various sites. It will be relevant if the apartment program moves
forward.
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12. Chairman Tyler asked if anyone else would like to speak on this item. There
being no further public comment, the public participation portion of the
hearing was closed and opened to Commission discussion.
13. Commissioner Robbins noted that all the streets in the project were either
"streets" or "boulevards" whereas "Avenida" and "Calle" were more in
character with the City. Staff stated they would review the matter.
14. Commissioner Kirk stated it is an outstanding project for the City and he
wholeheartedly supports it.
15. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Kirk to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 99-
042 recommending to the City Council approval of Specific Plan 97-031
Amendment #1, subject to the Findings and Conditions of Approval as
modified:
a. Condition # 1: Upon City Council approval, a memorandum noting
that the City Conditions of Approval for development applications
exist and are available for review at City Hall, shall be recorded
against the property with the Riverside County Recorder's office. ·
b. Condition #7: "Gate entrance openings shall not be either 14 or 16
feet based on Fire Department approval. All ..... "
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
16. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Kirk to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 99-043 recommending to the City Council approval
of Site Development Permit 99-618, Amendment # 1, as modified:
a. Condition #2: deleted the use of Palm trees.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
Chairman Tyler recessed at 9:25 p.m. and reconvened at 9:30 p.m.
E. Site Development Permit 99-603 Amendment #2; a request of Stamko Development,
Mazda Superstore, and Indio Chrysler Center for approval to amend the building
elevations, landscaping plans and development plans for two of the three auto sales
facilities.
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1. Chairman Tyler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Community Development Director Jerry Herman presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. There being no questions of staff, Chairman Tyler asked if the applicant
would like to address the Commission. Mr. Dave Stark, representing the
applicants, stated the purpose of the request.
3. Chairman Tyler asked if the applicant had any problem with staff's
recommendation. Mr. Stark stated they'had no objection. Chairman Tyler
stated he hated to see the deletion of the landscaping on the east side. Mr.
Stark stated the manufacturers did not want to hide the vehicles behind trees
and bushes and they were trying to meet their demands.
4. Chairman Tyler asked if anyone else would like to speak on this item. There
being no further public comment, the public participation portion of the
hearing was closed and opened to Commission discussion.
5. Commissioner Abels stated the landscaping along Highway 111 should
remain as approved by the City Council to conform with the Highway 111
Design Guidelines.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 99-
044 recommending to the City Council approval of Site Development Permit
Amendment #2, subject to the Findings and Conditions of Approval as
recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
F. Site Development Permit 99-651; a request of KSL Recreation Corporation for
approval to relocate existing corporate office modular units from the southern
terminus of PGA Boulevard to a four acre site developed with existing interim uses
in the Tourist Commercial District pursuant to Specific Plan 83-002.
1. Chairman Tyler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Principal Planner Start Sawa presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
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2. There being no questions of staff, Chairman Tyler asked if the applicant
would like to address the Commission. Mr. Forrest Haag, representing KSL
Recreation Corporation, state the purpose of their application. He then
questioned Condition #8 and stated the Fire Department had agreed to
remove.
3. Commissioner Robbins asked the applicant to identify what the purpose of
the building. Mr. Haag indicated the uses on the map.
4. Chairman Tyler asked if anyone else would like to speak on this item.
5. Ms. Kelly McGalliard, representing PGA West Residential Association,
stated her confusion as to the uses reported by Mr. Haag as being interim as
no specific time period has been identified. The Association is asking that
a time period be identified as the proposed uses are not compatible and there
are alternate sites that could be used. The removal will enhance the
surrounding area, but the relocation and addition would not.
6. Commissioner Kirk asked Ms. McGalliard what she was asking for was the
definition of interim only. Ms. McGalliard stated their ultimate goal is to
have the Commission deny the project, and if' not, at least def'me how long
temporary would be. Commissioner Kirk asked what time limit they want.
Ms. McGalliard stated they were given a year on their request and an
evaluation after that.
7. Mr. Arthur Brant 55-605 Pebble Beach, stated he was there to verify that the
surrounding neighbors objected to this application and also asked that Mr.
May's letter be included with their objections. When he purchased his home
they were told that as soon as the resort clubhouse was built the modular units
would be removed. They are not going away, but rather growing in numbers.
Their view is of the mountains and the temporary buildings, can be seen. In
addition, existing the sales building is up for review and they are voicing an
objecting to its use as well. The private clubhouse looks directly down on
these units. None of the other clubs in the Valley have this type of use for
their offices.
8. Commissioner Kirk asked Mr. Brandt about the letter dated February, 1999.
Mr. Brandt stated this was the letter of objection to the sales office for
Montecito.
9. Mr. Charles Hathaway, 55-405 Pebble Beach, stated he had lived here for
quite a while, and asked staff if they had looked at this site from Pebble
Beach. He would hope that the Commission/staff would look at the site and
determine the impact these trailers would have on the area. There is no
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indication that the screen presently surrounding the use would be moved, or
removed. Generally "temporary" means less than permanent and Mr. Haag
has indicated this use will lead into something else. The plan submitted by the
applicant is not complete as the applicant has indicated the layout will
change. How many additional temporary buildings will be moved onto the
site in the furore, or temporary containers as are now existing. He would ask
the Planning Commission to deny this application and require the applicant
to relocate to the southeast comer of Jefferson Street and 54th Avenue, at the
entrance to PGA West as this would not infringe on any ones view.
10. Dr. Alexander Kom, Pebble Beach, stated he agrees with what has been said
and there are alternative sites. He was unable to paint his house grey, or place
awnings on his house, therefore, why should they be allowed to make
exceptions.
11. Mr. Larry Lichliter, 55-920 PGA Boulevard, KSL, appreciates what has been
said and he agrees there are better solutions, but there is an issue of timing.
Sometimes you can be oblivious to the impact on the adjacent homeowners.
They met with the homeowners and tried to address and clean up the area to
meet the concerns of the homeowners. What they are requesting will not
impact the existing homeowners. What is there is impacting them. They do
recognize the need to move due to the impact on the homeowners, but they
need to make this move at some reasonable point in time. The potential
alternative locations do exist, but are not viable due to the time factor and
need to move now.
12. Chairman Tyler asked if Mr. Lighliter if he didn't agree that this was not
architecturally compatible. He also asked for the definition of temporary.
Mr. Lichliter stated there is a need for temporary facilities to get through the
whole phase of construction. There is no definitive definition of temporary.
13. There being no further public comment, the public participation portion of the
heating was closed and opened to Commission discussion.
14. Commissioner Abels asked if a time frame of two to three years would be
acceptable. KSL has been cooperative with the City and there have not been
any issues and he would think that the issues between the HOA and KSL
could be worked out in a time period that is agreeable to both.
15. .Chairman Tyler stated the proposed use is legal in this zone. The issue is
how long is temporary. What oppommities does the Commission have? City
Attorney Dawn Honeywell indicated it is reasonable to state a time in
consideration of what the purpose is. There are no specifics that guide this
in the current Specific Plan.
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16. Commissioner Robbins stated he thought KSL had made a good effort to hide
what is there. If the Commission wanted to they could retroactively condition
the exiting buildings to a time frame. City Attorney Dawn Honeywell stated
the Commission could. The Specific Plan is a legal document and the City
Council could direct staff to bring it back and place specific time frames on
it. Short of doing that, the Commission could place some time issues on it.
17. Commissioner Abels stated that if the Commission approved or denied the
request, the applicant, or the other parties could appeal the decision.
18. Commissioner Kirk stated that in an effort to reach a compromise, they
should define temporary as two years, but within one year KSL should file a
progress report with an alternative site offered.
19. Commissioner Robbins stated he concurred, but he would have to state that
this use is better than a 1,000 room hotel.
20. Commissioner Abels suggested three years and a review in two years.
21. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioner Kirk/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission Resolution 99-
045 recommending to the City Council approval of Site Development Permit
99-651, subject to the Findings and Conditions of Approval as modified:
a. Condition # 18: time limit for three years with a progress report at the
end of two years for all the temporary uses proposed and the existing
at the site.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, and Chairman Tyler.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler. ABSTAIN: None.
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Master Design Guidelines 99-003; a request of Lench Design Group for La Quinta
Parmers/William Rogers for approval of three new prototype residences and
landscaping plans for different lots in the Cove area.
1. Chairman Tyler asked for the staff report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa
presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on
file in the Community DeVelopment Department.
2. Chairman Tyler stated he could not find the square footage in the plans. Staff'
stated they could be no smaller than 1,200 square feet.
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3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Tyler asked if the
applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Skip Lench,
representing Mr. Rogers, stated the smallest is 1400 up to 1700 square feet.
Chairman Tyler asked that this be added to the plan.
4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Robbins to adopt Minute Motion 99-005, as submitted.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Chairman Tyler gave a report on the City Council meeting of May 4, 1999.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no fin~er business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Robbins to
adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the next regular meeting of the Planning
Commission to be held May 25, 1999, at 7:00 p.m. This meeting of the Planning Commission was
adjourned at 10:41 P.M. onMay 11, 1999. -
~ Resp lly submitted,
' Cityo Lf ~-Quinta, California
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