2000 05 23 PC Minutes MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
May 23, 2000 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
P.M. by Chairman Kirk who asked Commissioner Abels to lead the flag
salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Jacques Abels, Richard Butler, Robert Tyler,
Steve Robbins, and Chairman Kirk.
C. Staff present: City Attorney Dawn Honeywell, Planning Manager
Christine di Iorio, Senior Engineer Steve' Speer, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa, Planning Consultant Nicole Criste, and Executive Secretary Betty
Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of May
9, 2000. Commissioner Tyler asked that Page 6, Item//1 be amended to
delete the word "continued" i'n the fourth line; Page 6, Item//7, change
to read: "Commissioner Tyler stated that the other half of Aliso Del Rey
tract to the north, has lots that run north and south, and asked why the
lots in this tract are running east and west .instead. Also, 'why don't the
streets of this tract connect with the project to the north?"; Page 7, Item
//10, be amended to read: "Commissioner Tyler stated that Century-
Crowell has always stated that they knew the potential of Aliso Del Rey
II becoming a reality. This Commission has previously heard open
discussion that this was likely to happen. In public testimony concerning
Aliso Del Rey I, and also at subsequent public hearings regarding the
Eucalyptus trees along the northern boundary of that tract, there was
public comment given regarding a concern for heavy traffic on Dune
Palms Road because of the schools, and a need expressed to have a
second access onto Westward Ho Drive. Looking at this tract layout, it
is probably the worst example of a tract layout he has seen while serving
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on this Commission - especially since both tracts involved are being done
concurrently by the same developer. For example, Lots 1 2, 18, and 24
each abut four lots across their northern lot line and Lots 1 3, 1 9 and 25
each abut three lots across their northern lot line. This violates common
sense and good planning practice, and he cannot understand why the
Commission is even considering it. Knowing that Aliso Del Rey II was
likely to happen, it should have been integrated into the overall design of
Aliso Del Rey from the very beginning. This is a high visibility project,
right across from La Quinta High School and will only add to existing
traffic problems. He has a problem supporting this project."; Page 8,
Item #!4, add the word private at the end of the first line; Page 8, Item
#15, delete the fourth word "the". There being no further changes, it
was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Robbins to approve
the minutes as amended. Unanimously approved.
B. Department Report: None.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Tentative Tract Map 28409, Fxtension #2; a request of Charles B.
Murphy and Lynn R. Kunkle for a recommendation of approval of a
second one year time extension for a previously approved subdivision of
9.15 acres into 19 custom single family and other common or private
street lots.
1. Chairman Kirk opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if this was the last extension. Staff
stated they had one more. Commissioner Tyler asked why
Condition #40 had been lined out. Staff stated that it was a
recommendation of the Public Works Department. Staff
proceeded to go over the changes to the Conditions of Approval.
3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Kirk asked if
anyone would like to address the Commission on this project.
4. There being no public comment, Chairman Kirk closed the public
participation portion of the hearing and opened it for Commission
discussion.
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5. Commissioner Tyler noted the condition of the deteriorated sign on
the project site and asked that it be replaced with a new one.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Tyler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2000-030 recommending to the City Council approval
of Tentative Tract Map 28409 Extension//2 as submitted.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Butler, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
Commissioner Butler excused himself from the meeting due to a possible conflict of
interest and left the dias.
B. Site Development Permit 99-648 Amendment//1; a request of CenturY-
Crowell Communities for approval of a new 'two-story prototype
residence for use in Tract 27529-Aliso Del Rey located on the west side
of Dune Palms Road south of Desert Stream Drive.
1. Chairman Kirk opened the Public Hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file.in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if it would be appropriate to add a
condition that would prohibit the bonus room from being built.
Staff stated it could be added.
3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Kirk asked if
the applicant would like to address the Commission. Ms. Marty
Butler representing Century-Crowell Communities, stated she
concurred with staff's recommendation.
4. There being no questions of the applicant, Chairman Kirk asked if
there was any other public comment. Mr. Jim Brenneis, 79-365
Desert Stream Drive, asked staff to verify the level of the pads as
-- he thought they would be lower than where they are currently
~ graded to. They appear to be three feet higher than he thought.
In regard to the two-story homes, he asked for verification as to
where they would be located.
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5. Mr. Gordon West, 79-285 Desert Stream, stated he was told the
grade for this development would be lower than their homes and
now the dirt is piled up higher than their grade level. If this is to
be the pad elevation the existing homes will not be able to see the
mountains as the homes are larger than what was originally
proposed for this tract. This tract was approved for one story
homes and now this is the third or fourth time Century-Crowell
have come back requesting changes. They are tired of having to
continually 'attend meetings to defend themselves against
Century's request.
6. Mr. Sean Huber, 79-37§ Desert Stream 'Drive, stated he has been
before the Commission on numerous times regarding this project
objecting to numerous items. Each time they were assured there
would be no more .than a three foot variation lower than there
homes and they would be single story homes to not disturb their
views. He also agreed with what had been previously stated. At
what poir~t is it enough and the City can require them to stick to
their plans.
7. Mr. Tom Mulkahey, 79-350 Desert Rock Court, stated they had
been through the same issue when Century built behind the
original Topez tract and they ended up with a two foot addition on
top of their wall because no one caught the elevation change. No
one was responsible for this mistake and now he looks at this wall
and his neighbor looks down into his yard. Another issue he
brought up to the City Council is one exit/entrance which is gated.
He was told there would be another exit/entrance on the
Westward Ho Drive side and now he is hearing they are going to
build cul-de-sacs. This means the second exit/entrance will not be
built. He reviewed the Environmental Impact Report and there is
no consideration given to the 'fact that two schools are being
constructed on Dune Palms Road. The faculty parking and student
drop off is located on Dune Palms Road. All these issues add to
the traffic and congestion and should have been taken care of.
We live here and Century does not.
8. Chairman Kirk asked staff to address some of the concerns raised.
Staff displayed the map and showed where the two story homes
had been plotted.
9. Commissioner Tyler asked if the applicant was legally bound to
follow the map. Staff stated they would have to come back and
ask for the change before they could make any changes.
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10. Senior Engineer Steve Speer went over the map approval process
in regard to grading/elevations to assure the tract map is graded
as approved. Chairman Kirk asked if staff would notify those who
spoke in regard to verifying the pad elevations.
11. 'Commissioner TYler asked if.the applicant was requesting the loft
option for use in Aliso Del Rey II. Ms. Marty Butler, representing
Century-Crowell Communities, stated that would be their intent,
but they are only responding to the market demand for larger
homes.
12. There being no further public comment, Chairman Kirk closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened it for
Commission discussion.
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13. Commissioner Robbins stated he understands the existing
homeowners' concerns as they have gone through the approval
process and thought they had an acceptable project and now it
has come back for a change. He asked if the two story units that
actually back up to .the existing units could be changed to one
story units so the two story units would have no impact on the
existing homes. The applicant concurred with the suggestion.
14. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Abels to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2000-031 recommending approval of Site Development
Permit 99-648, Amendment #1, subject to the Findings and
Conditions of Approval as amended.
a. Condition #3: A bonus room option in the garage shall not
be allowed.
b. Condition #4: Two story houses shall not be constructed
adjacent to the existing subdivision to the north.
c. Condition #7: No bonus roOms on two story units.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Robbins, Tyler, and Chairman
Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler.
ABSTAIN: None.
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C. Tentative Tract Map 29568 and Site Development Permit 2000-670; a
request of Century-Crowell Communities for recommendation of an
approval to subdivide 8.48 acres into two multi-family lots and four
lettered lots, and approval to construct three prototype residential plans
rangin§ in size from 1,803 to 2,400 square feet within Specific Plan 83-
001, located south of 50th Avenue, west of Washington Street, at the
southern terminus of Avenida Los Verdes, within Duna La Quinta.
1. Chairman Kirk opened the Public Hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manger Christine di Iorio presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department. Staff noted a
condition that was added by Public Works. Senior Engineer Steve
Speer explained the condition was to require the applicant to
dedicate Lot "D" on Parcel Map 19730 for use as Washington
Street right-of-Way.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Abels asked staff to identify what channel was
referred to on the plans. Staff stated the channel is the golf
course fairway. Commissioner Abels asked staff to confirm there
will be a pool at the end of Lot 20. Staff stated that was true.
3. Commissioner Robbins asked about the keystone retaining wall
.system. Staff stated the retaining wall system would be used
from WashingtOn Street adjacent to the apartment complex,
continuing around and adjacent to the City-owned retention basin,
and runs the entire length of the south side of the tract and is not
on the storm water, or north side. The HOA will be responsible for
maintaining it.
4. Commissioner Tyler asked how the emergency access gate would
operate. Staff stated the grade elevation exists and the developer
will have to match the elevation of the flood control dike and the
elevation of the street.
5. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Kirk asked if
the applicant would like to address the Commission. Ms. Margo
Williams, Mainiero Smith, engineers representing Century-Crowell
Communities, stated she concurred with staff's recommendations.
On Page 2 of the staff report, there needs to be a clarification that
there are 22 units for a total of 40 units. With respect to
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Condition #33 regarding the elevations, they are constrained by
the dike and will minimize the impact of the eleVation differential
with landscaping.
6. Commissioner Tyler asked for clarification on the number of units
to be constructed. Ms. Williams stated there should be a total of
40 units. Staff recommended the deletion of Conditions #25 and
#33 as they do not apply to this tract. Ms. Williams asked about
Condition #62 being deleted.
7. There being no further questions of the applicant, Chairman Kirk
asked if there was any other public comment.
8. There being no further public comment, Chairman Kirk closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened it for
Commission discussion.
9. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Tyler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2000-032 recommending to the City Council approval
of Tentative Tract Map 29586, as amended:
a. Condition #1: remove the word "conditional".
b. Condition #9.A.1.: Applicant shall dedicate Lot "D" on
Parcel Map 19730 for use as Washington Street right-of-
way
c. Condition #9.C.: reword regarding 'the cul-de-sac bulb
d. Condition #25: delete
e. Condition #33: delete
f. Condition #51 .B. 1 .: reword regarding the cul-de-sac bulb
g. Condition #60: delete, "and turning movements of traffic"
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Robbins, Tyler, and Chairman
Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler.
ABSTAIN: None.
10. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2000-033 recommending approval 'of Site Development
Permit 2000-670, subject to the Findings and Conditions of
Approval as submitted.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Robbins, Tyler, and Chairman
Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Butler.
ABSTAIN: None.
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Chairman Kirk recessed the meeting at 7:53 p.m. and reconvened at 8:00 p.m.
Commissioner Butler rejoined the meeting.
D. Environmental Assessment 2000-394. Specific Plan 2000-042. and
Conditional Use Permit .9000-048; a request of the La Ouinta Arts
Foundation for a recommendation to certify a Mitigated Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact, approval of design guidelines and
development standards to guide future development, and allow a visual
performin§ arts education facility.
1. Chairman Kirk opened the Public Hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department. Planning Consultant
Nicole Criste informed the Commission of the proposed changes
to the Specific Plan Conditions of Approval: Condition #57 be
modified to read, "On Sundays and Holidays, the weekday hours
of operation shall apply. For the five major events on the Festival
grounds annually, breakdown shall be allowed until 10:00 p.m."
Condition #67 modified to read, "Alternatively 100 parallel parking
spaces may be provided along the rear access road by widening
the road to a 36-foot width minimum." Condition #68 be amended
to delete the words "Site Development Permit" and "Grading" used
instead.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler questioned Condition #54.B. as to whether or
not it included the berming. Staff stated it did.
3. Commissioner Robbins asked if the proposed parking lots would be
paved. Staff stated the general parking and artists parking lots ar~J
decomposed granite (DG). Only the VIP parking and driveways are
paved. The others serve as retention basins and are proposed in
the Specific Plan as DG.
4. Commissioner Butler asked if DG complies with the PM l0
requirements. Staff stated it is clarified in the Specific Plan as to
how it will be maintained to meet the PM l0 requirements.
5. Commissioner Abels asked what the circulation plan was to get
into the Festival groundS. Planning Consultant Nicole Criste
explained the circulation plan on the exhibit. The adjoining gates
would be used for unloading.
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6. Commissioner Robbins asked why a temporary turnaround was
indicated on the Conceptual Site Plan, but is not shown on the
landscaping plan.
7. Chairman Kirk commended staff on the staff report. He
questioned the parking and circulation plan contained in the
Specific Plan. He noted the guests and artists parking are
addressed, and asked if the employees, or volunteers were
included in the parking calculations. Staff stated they were
included in the count.
8. . There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Kirk asked if
the applicant would like to address the Commission. Ms. Kay
Wolff, President of the Board of Directors for the Arts Foundation,
asked if Father Barker could speak first. Father Jack Barker, St.
Francis of Assisi Church, stated that on behalf of the 8,000
members of his church, they are delighted to have the Arts
Foundation as their potential neighbors. They have been looking
for years to have a good neighbor and are happy to have them as
it will help their parking problems. In terms of the development of
the City, he would like to remind everyone that we have a vision
of the cultural environment for this City that are contained in the
City documents. As a spiritual leader in the City he has a concern
for the quality of life in our community. If we only built houses,
gas stations, and banks it will be boring. We have to build those
things that will sustain the spiritual, educational, and artistic inner
person. Obviously there are many details that need to be worked
out as he would not want a concert at 1:00 a.m. in the morning
either. Ms. Kay Wolff thanked staff for their time studying their
project and their help preparing the necessary documents. She
asked the Board Members, employees and scholarship recipients
to indicate their presence in support of the project. She went on
to give the history and mission of Foundation.
9. Ms. Susan Francis, Executive Director, stated she was
representing the Board Members, employees, volunteers and
students served by the Foundation. She went on to state how
they have outgrown their Festival and office facilities. They have
tried to keep the Church informed as well as holding meetings
throughout the Valley to keep people informed of their progress.
Through these meetings, changes were made to the site plan to
address the concerns of the neighbors. The Foundation's
programs and services are good for the community and she went
on to describe those programs and services. Ms. Francis
introduced Mike Smith and Steve Soboda, Warner Engineering,
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engineers for the project, Frank Delany, attorney for the Arts
Foundation, Ron Gregory, landscape architect, and Eldon Lee with
Korve Engineering.
10. Mr. Frank Delany, attorney for the applicant, stated they have
reviewed the staff report and generally agree with most of the
Conditions as recommended. Condition #62 by reason of changes
to Condition #54, is now acceptable. The changes made by staff
regarding the hours of operation, are acceptable with one
modification; the exception for major events, which would not be
subject to the time limitations as required by the Zoning Code.
They would request this apply to the five major events on Page 3,
as well as the five medium events, for a total of 10 events.
Condition #64, they are requesting the Specific Plan be modified
to permit them to use either DG, or grassed turf depending on their
choice. Condition #68 is acceptable. Condition #67, with the
clarification made by staff, adding the additional 100 spaces by
widening the access, they believe this Condition can be deleted.
Condition #27, in regard to the retention basin, needs to be
clarified. As the Commission knows, the retention basins were
designed so the parking lots would not be visible from the street.
This condition requires them to be visible and they believe this is
inappropriate and ask that it be deleted. Condition #34 in regard
to providing a ten foot sidewalk; they would request this condition
be modified to require them to provide a six foot wide meandering
sidewalk. The opportunity for a bike path to the south is eliminated
because of the residential development, Laguna de la Paz, and to
the north because of the church.
11. Ms. Nicole Criste responded in regard to Condition #67 by stating
staff would disagree with the applicant's request because the
condition now provides alternatives either in redesign of the
parking lots to provide additional parking spaces, or in parallel
parking along the rear driveway by increasing the width of the
road. Staff would still support the condition as amended.
12. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated that in regard to the
applicant's request for a six foot meandering sidewalk, staff Would
request that it be 8-feet, which would be a change to Condition
#34. In regard to Condition #27, it is staff's decision they remain
in place. Even though they may be redundant, they do serve a
purpose. Commissioner Robbins questioned whether or not the
upper retention basin would meet the criteria.
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1 3. There being.no questions of the applicant, Chairman Kirk asked if
there was any other public comment.
14. Mr. Robert Ready, 48-241 Calle Floristas, submitted a letter of
opposition and a petition containing 200 signatures objecting to
· the Foundation's use of the property. The Commission is aware
of the findings required to approve the applications. The applicant
intends to use the property as its corporate headquarters as shown
by the applications and signs that have been on the property for
more than a year. Such a use is not consistent with General Plan
or Zoning Code. The application does not comply with CEQA.
The informational requirements of CEQA have not been met. For
example, alternative sites have not even been mentioned, even
though there are numerous such sites in the City. A full EIR
should be prepared. The project is inconsistent with the
surrounding already developed neighborhoods. The proposed use
is commercial with a massive infrastructure, including an
enormous parking lot consisting of 1624 parking spaces. The
Festival grounds' provide for 380 sales display pads. In short,
what we have is the imposition of a tent city, a parking lot as large
as WalMart, and commercial structures all used for commercial
activity placed on Low Density Residential land. Surely, this
commercial use is not compatible with the existing quiet residential
neighborhoods of Laguna de la Paz and Lake La Quinta. The
Specific Plan does not rise to even the minimum thresholds of
matters to be included in the plan. It does not provide the text or
diagrams which specify in detail the description, location and
extent of the uses of the land within the area covered by the Plan.
This Plan represents the applicant's wish list. Among other
deficiencies, the applicant has not provided for sufficient parking
for the level of activity anticipated. The applicant has stated they
have a reciprocal agreement with St. Francis of Assissi Church for
shared parking. However, if this were to occur, the Church would
be in violation of its own current use permits which would render
them subject to revocation. He cannot believe this is the intention
of the religious authorities at St. Francis of Assisi. The Specific
Plan required findings cannot be met for the very reasons that the
Conditional Use Permit findings cannot be met. The predominate
use in the area provide the yardstick for determining compatibility
with neighboring uses. The applicant's property is a tiny island in
the midst of a sea of Low Density Residential property and its
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commercial uses are not compatible with the neighborhood, nor is
the property suitable for commercial activities. They are entitled
to a fair hearing and expect that the evidence presented Will be
impartially reviewed and an equitable decision rendered by this
tribunal. As the Commission is aware, any violation of the Zoning
Code is a public nuisance and must be taken into. consideration in
their deliberations. The nuisances that the applicant's uses
represent are fully covered in his written submittal.
1 5. Ms. Helen Reddy, 48-241 Calle Floristas, stated a transaction is
classified as commercial based on the nature of the conduct in
light of the totality of the surrounding circumstances. The
exchange of money for services, even by a nonprofit organization
is quintessential commercial transaction.. The interpretation that
the applicant's proposed cOmmercial operation is permissible under
Table 9-1 Museum or Gallery Use, means that commercial
operations on the scale proposed are permissible in residential
areas. This is obviously inconsistent with' and violates the General
Plan. A Zoning Ordinance that is not consistent with the General
Plan is invalid when it is originally passed. A cursory review of the
applicant's submittal and staff's recommended Conditions of
Approval will show that the project is consistent neither with the
General Plan, nor Zoning Code. The Commission should not
recommend approval of the Conditional Use Permit for the
proPosed uses on Low Density Residential land which abuts an
already developed residential community. This project should be
placed in the Village. As the City Attorney stated to her and her
husband, at a meeting on April 1 2th, attended by Mr. Herman,
unless a Conditional Use Permit is approved, there is no need to
even consider the question of a Specific Plan. The Commission
should not do that here at this meeting. However, one comment
is required on staff's Conditions of Approval, Condition//54. This
is a blatant attempt at rezoning under the guise of Conditions of
Approval for a Specific Plan. This is spot zoning at its worse.
1 6. Ms. Barbara Barba, 48,806 Andorra Street, Indio, stated she was
in support of the proposed project and an active member of the
Arts Foundation and went on to explain how she has been
involved in the Foundation's programs. Cultural needs will only
continue if the building plans are approved. The La Quinta Arts
Festival brings revenue to the City. Those who disagree with this
building plan should read the permitted uses for this particular area
established ten years before the residential area to the south was
even proposed. She then read the uses listed on Table 4-1
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Permitted Uses for the project site. If she were a resident to the
south,' she would rather have the Arts Foundation than some of
the uses listed on the permitted list.
1 7. Ms. April Newberry, 48-103 Vista Cielo, stated she was a resident
of Laguna de'la Paz and when they bought their property they
were told this site was, and still is zoned for Low Density
Residential housing. Any commercial development of this land is
not consistent with the General Plan and Zoning Code. They are
against the proposed commercial development by the Arts
Foundation as it would have a severe detrimental effect to their
residential development and quality of life at Laguna de Ia Paz.
1'8. Mr. Christine Curry, 48-131 Vista Cielo, stated she was in support
of the ArtS Foundation. This project will be a major asset to the
City. Its programs reach out to all ages and interests. It is a
model studied by other communities. It sponsors one of the
highest ranked art Festivals in the country.
1 9. Mr. Carl Soderberg, 48-509 Via Encanto, stated he moved to La
Quinta a year and a half ago to enjoy a quiet life span. He has
nothing against the Art Foundation, but they have many other
choices for a lOcation and if you look up and down Washington
Street and see the traffic, like they do, you will see there is too
much going on. The 'Foundation has to look at other choices and
do their job.
20. Mr. Richard Ainsworth, 73-043 Somera, Palm Desert, stated the.
Arts FoundatiOn has long supported his effort to pursue a career
in graphic design through scholarships. He knows the Foundation
is a vital part of the community and the schools by promoting
education in the arts which is sometimes overlooked. He thinks
it is great that they are trying to expand their facilities to further
promote their programs.
21. Mr. Richard Mayer, 48-118 Vista Cielo, stated he is speaking in
opposition to the project, but is an enthusiast for the Arts
Foundation. His concern is the traffic that will be cjenerated. The
staff report states Washington Street is three lanes in each
direction, but in reality is only two lanes. The staff reports also
states that the exits from the parking areas are limited. The only
way out of the site is to go south down Washington Street. Then
if you want to go east, you will have to get into the left turn
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pocket and compete with the U-turn. To him this is not ri§ht. His
bi0[lest problem is the traffic it will brin§. The Foundation has a
tremendous idea; it is just in the wrong location.
22. Ms. Kathryn Hull, 77-2150 Calle Chillon, stated this is an exciting
concept and she sees nothing wrong with a commercial project on
a commercial street as Washington Street which makes it easy to
get in and out. Three years ago the City held workshops to
identify what was needed in the City and a cultural/performing
facility was needed. It is not just one group that needs this type
of facility, but the entire Valley. It would be a great gateway
opening to the City and would make a statement that this City
believes in more than businesses and buildings, it believes in a
wonderfully balanced, cultural developed life for its citizens.
· 23. Mr. Larry Newberry, 48-103 Vista Cielo, stated that as a
homeowner within 500 feet of the proposed project, he rises in
opposition, based on the fact that even though the La Quinta Arts
Foundation is a nonprofit organization providing these wonderful
services, it charges for most of these services. This, in his
opinion, makes it a commercial operation and therefore, is
inconsistent with the General Plan and the zoning regulations.
This project will have a detrimental effect on the adjoining
residents due to the increase in' noise, lighting, traffic congestion,
and pollution. As stated in Ms. Kay Wolff's letter to the City they
indicated they will not only provide services, but will seek to
promote other organizations to use the facility. This will only
increase the problems for the adjoining neighbors. The applicant's
applications asked for release from at least 14 Municipal Code and
Zoning issues in order to operate this facility. The Environmental
Impact Report, Item #8.A.-Storm and water runoff from the Santa
Rosa Mountains into the Catch Basins, states the water to be
retained in the parking lots will be contaminated by oils, gasoline,
and other chemicals leaked by the vehicles in the parking lot over
a period of time. These hazardous materials can potentially
percolate into the soil below ~he parking lot and eventually
contaminate the ground water. As resident of Laguna de la Paz
they have a multi-acre lake that is fed from ground wells adjacent
to the property and they do all their irrigation and watering from
these. He is concerned about the chemical levels that will be
spread through out the 393 homes at the complex.
24. Ms. Deborah Godley 77-211 Calle Sonora, stated she does not
have an affiliation with the Foundation, but has worked with them.
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She had no intention of speaking until she read an article in the
paper from a resident of Laguna de la Paz that was likening the
Arts Festival to a giant collection of porta potties. She lives in La
Quinta and attends the Arts Festival and in her opinion, this is a
case of "nimby", or not in my backyard. It seems strange that
such a wonderful entity as the Arts Foundation, with such
educational goals, should be likened to a swap meet. One of the
things that attracted her to La Quinta was the diversity in the
people that live here. The Foundation does reach out to people
who otherwise would have no exposure to the arts.
25. Mr. Ken Von Schnabl, 48-567 Via Amistad, stated the reason he
is against this project is because of the lighting, traffic, and noise.
What will happen when this project is started with as much traffic
as there is now on Washington Street. The Church now has
traffic coming in from all directions and there is only one exit. To
add this traffic, to what they are proposing, how will the parking
be handled?
26. Mr. Fred Wolff, 77-227 Calle .Ensenada, stated he was privileged
to lead the City to incorporation and served as it's first Mayor. He
remembers what they discussed at that time should be the image
of the City. The goal was to make it the cultural and art center of
this Valley. When this City was first started it was all zoned
residential. No one could expect to see this continue as the City
is growing so fast. You cannot count on 'vacant land next to you
remaining residential and it is ludicrous to accuse the Arts
Foundation as proposing a commercial venture. The Arts
Foundation is not a WalMart, Thrifty Drug Store, etc., but a
nonprofit organization that serves this community. Every
organization is going to raise money. The Church raises money.
Does that make them a commercial enterprise? The traffic on
Washington Street is there whether the Festival is held in the
Village, or Washington Street. The traffic will not have to go as
far as it use to, and most people will benefit from this new
location. He is proud of this organization and how it has
developed. It is self serving of those opposing this project.
27. Ms. Susan Clark, 51-220 Avenida Carranza, stated she has been
living in La Quinta since the early 1980's and understands
property values as her husband is a contractor. She is a school
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teacher at Adams Elementary School and wants to bring art to her
students as she experi0nced it in her youth. She understands the
time and effort to teach the basics due to the amount of time she
spends on them. During the first two years of teaching at Adams
School, she had the privilege of having a La Quinta Arts
Foundation docent visit her fifth grade classroom to teach art once
a week for five weeks. You cannot image the impatience of a fifth
grader waiting for the docents to come. These students
understand when someone outside their circle of parents and
teachers care about them and what they know. The art docents
care and they realize that a child without an appreciation of the
arts has not had a complete education. This is an exposure that
most of them would never have if it wasn't for the Foundation.
Don't make an idol of your home and forget the ideals they have
because of some perceived threat to their property.
28. Mr. 3oseph Ferguson, 48-239 Galle FIoristas, stated he and his
wife bought their new home in Laguna de la Paz ten years ago,
and at that time they inquired into the zoning of this property and
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were told it was zoned Low Density Residential. Now ten years
later, from their backyard patio, they will see a berm with trucks,
and maybe semi-tractor trailers, which will be parked in their
employee parking lot during the run of a particular event. These
trucks together with the construction of a visible major outdoor
arena, violates the Low Density Residential zoning promised when
they purchased their home. If this project is allowed to go
forward, won't this be a great view from their property; dust,
noise, lights, and generators. The applicant's have asked to
change this either by zone change or conditional use permit. It is
almost as though Laguna de la Paz does not count. He has
nothing against the Foundation, but they have chosen the wrong
location and the Commission must not allow them to proceed. A
change in the zoning, or use, is not fair to the residents of Laguna
de la Paz. They were there first. ·
29. There being no further public comment, Chairman Kirk closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened it for
Commission discussion.
30. Planning Consultant Nicole Criste addressed the question of the
temporary turn-around by stating the Specific Plan shows the
temporary turn-around as temporary until the design and
construction of the Foundation building, because when the
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Foundation building and its associated parking lot are designed it
will provide the turn-around for people who are blocked by the first
set of gates.
31. Commissioner Tyler stated he has heard over and over again how
important a role the Arts Foundation has played in the City's
evolution over the last 18 years and the very important role it
continues to play and wishes to play in the future. Both sides
would agree to this. The facts are that the land was donated at
this location and so that is where it is. Secondly, he keeps hearing
the complaint that the project is commercial,' yet no one is
complaining that right across the street is a commercially zoned
area. So the commercial flavor already exists. Third, is that at a
recent Council meeting, on a much less important issue to the
community, the Planning Commission was accused of a rush to
judgement in denying a request after listening to an hour of
testimony and then debating it 'for five minutes. He does not
agree with this statement, but it was the perception that someone
in the community has. Tonight we have been given massive
amounts of material that needs to be understood and with the
importance of this issue, the Commission needs time to assimilate
this information before making a decision and he does not think
there is time at this meeting to accomplish this. It is important
that they make the right decision based on all the information they
have and more has been received at this meeting. He would
therefore like to suggest a continuance to the first.meeting in
June.
32. Commissioner Abels stated he has lived in La Quinta for 32 years
and he has seen a lot of development. Traffic has gotten heavier
and will continue to get heavier as the years go by and we will
have to learn to live with it. This project has been a long time
coming to La Quinta. It is such a worthwhile project that it will
make La Quinta the envy of the art world and not only locally, but
nationally. The Foundation is to be commended as they have
prepared a thorough application and it is unfortunate that there are
those in the community who do not want it next dOor. The
proposed berming and landscaping on the south side will help
alleviate the problems. He agrees with the parking plan. In regard
to the traffic, the Bob Hope ClaSsic and other events have the
same problems and police have been brought in to control traffic.
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It may be an inconvenience, but how many times a year Will this
occur. It may be a commercial development, but not in the true
sense.
33. Commissioner Robbins stated he concurs with what has been
stated and trusts that most of the opposition is in regard to the
zoning and trusts that the City Attorney has reviewed the
applications and the Commission, in fact, is in compliance with
zoning and the General Plan. City Attorney Dawn Honeywell
stated the basic basis under the City's Zoning Code that this
project is before them is that they may have museums or galleries
displaying sculptures, artwork or crafts, including' school for the
above, on 20 acres or more under a conditional use permit in a
Very Low Density Residential or Low Density Residential area; in
fact, any residential area of the City's community. It is the
Planning Commission's job to make a determination that this
project meets the definition in the Zoning Code. If the Planning
Commission believes it will fit, then it will follow the General Plan
and Zoning Code. Commissioner Robbins stated he too lives in the
shadow of the Indian Wells Tennis Stadium and when it Was under
review he heard how bad the noise and lights would be and now
he can actually say he has not heard anything and the lights were
off at a reasonable hour and were not an issue. Based on this, he
does not believe this project will be as detrimental as has been
stated. The. property behind his house is vacant and he would
rather have a project such as this than a housing project.
34. Commissioner Abels stated that if a housing project were
approved for this site the traffic would be greater on a daily basis
than what will be created by this project.
35. Chairman Kirk asked staff how the traffic of a residential project
would compare to this project. Mr. Eldon Lee, engineer for the
project, stated the projection for a weekday event, or the
amphitheater, which is probably the highest load, is outborne
traffic. When the traffic is over there would probably be 680
vehicles per hour, which is a small percentage of the overall traffic
on Washington Street which is 19,000 vehicles a day. When they
run the models on the traffic for these events it improves the
signal operation level on Washington Street and 48th Avenue
because of the amount of time to make the left turn and the
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amount of traffic moving south. This' lessens the delays for the
southbound traffic. Overall if you had a development on this site
you would require the exit to be at the signal for Avenue 48 which
would increase the traffic noise to Laguna de la Paz. Chairman
Kirk asked if the egress/ingress was originally considered at 48th
Avenue. Mr. Lee stated yes, and they moved the egress/ingress
for this project down site in reference to satisfying the complaints
of the Laguna de la Paz residents.
36. Commissioner Butler asked if the comfort level for the Mitigated
Negative Declaration is supported by independent parties who
make these studies. Planning Consultant Nicole Criste stated all
studies prepared for this project were prepared by third party firms
that were contracted by the Foundation. Our analysis for the EA
Addendum was impartial, based on the analysis found in those
studies, and all studies were current studies.
37. Commissioner Tyler stated he is for the project, but there are
problems that needed to be worked out in regard to the details.
38. Commissioner Robbins stated he would be against grassing any of
the parking areas as we need to loOk toWard more efficient use of
water.
39. Chairman Kirk stated he too would object to using grass in the
parking lots. He is in support of the project. It is a great design
that is well designed and conceptualized. He thanked the
Foundation for reaching out to the neighboring communities. He
agrees that the egress/ingress would normally be placed at 48th
Avenue, but due to the impact it would have on the adjoining
residents, it has been moved to the north.
40. Commissioner Abels stated he thinks the issues should be ironed
out and not continue the project.
41. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner
Tyler to continue the project to June 13, 2000. The motion died
for lack of a second.
42. Chairman Kirk stated there are some conditions that have been
suggested and asked staff to comment on the sidewalk width
(Condition #34). Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated they would.
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agree to an eight foot sidewalk. In regard to the fencing around
the retention basin, the assumption is that even though it is not
seen from Washington Street, there are other access pads where
you can view the retention basins. Staff can work with some
language to satisfy the Sheriff's Department concerns. Staff does
try to keep the retention basins from being fenced as they are less
of a nuisance. The intent of the condition is "no fencing".
43. Commissioner Robbins stated his concern was not with the
fencing issue, but that it not be visible from Washington Street.
Mr. Mike Smith, Warner Engineering, stated their concern over the
condition was that the parking lots are the retention basins and
they are required to disguise the parking lots from Washington
Street and therefore, could not comply with the condition. They
are not proposing fencing but are proposing the berming behind
the sidewalk to shield the parking lot from the street. Planning
Consultant Nicole Criste suggested deleting the first sentence of
the condition, so the issue of visibility would be eliminated and the
fencing issue would remain.
44. Commissioner Tyler asked to review the hours of operation. The
staff report refers to the construction hours that have been
established for the community and he thinks they are totally
inappropriate. The construction hours prohibit any construction
activity on Sundays or holidays. Saturdays 8:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m.,
and depending upon the time of year, Monday through Friday,
from 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. or 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. This
seems to be inconsistent with the ending hours of the events that
are expected and could put a hardship on the artist who intends to
go from event to event and needs to pick up and move on to the
next event. If there is a time limit where they cannot do that
after 5:00 p.m. and the event ends at 10:00 p.m., it could be a
problem. Planning Consultant. Ni¢ole Criste stated the time
restrictions do not apply to the five major events, nor do they
apply to the activities at the amphitheater. The condition is
specifically geared to the Festival grounds activities because of its
adjacencies to sensitive receptors to the south. Commissioner
Tyler asked which condition applies. Staff stated Condition//57
states the hours of operation and clarification needs to be added
to the conditional use permit. The amendment to the condition
would be that on Sundays and holidays, the facility would be able
to operate under the weekday rules for construction. Discussion
followed regarding hours of operation. Following discussion a
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recommendation was made to add a sentence to Condition #57
that stated "breakdown is allowable for public health and safety
under emergency conditions.
45. Chairman Kirk stated he concurred with the applicant that this
condition should apply to the conditional use permit as 'well.
46. Commissioner Tyler stated he was concerned about the berms as
the staff report states the Festival §rounds are already three feet
above the level of/aguna de la Paz and then you add berms which
are seven and a half feet which could roach 10 feet in height. It
may keep the noise level down, but people on top of the berms
can look into their yards. The Laguna de la Paz wall is six feet
above their ground level and then it appears the homes have a
setback and then another wall. On the FOundation grounds you
have a seven and a half foot berm on top of a three foot high
elevation difference of ten and a half feet which invades the
privacy of those living in Laguna de la Paz. Planning Consultant
Nicole Criste stated Exhibit 6 in the Specific Plan shows three
graphics and the central figure shows the property line at the top
of the wall is 65.5 feet and the top of the berm is 73 feet. The
berm does not occur on the top of the raised land of the Festival
ground.
47. Commissioner Butler stated that currently there is blow sand
against the property line wall, and if you do not put a retaining
wall on top of the berm, the wind will blow the sand right into the
residents. Staff noted it would all be landscaped.
48. Commissioner Tyler asked if the berms had to be that high. Staff
stated they did for noise and visual impacts.
49. Mr. Ron Gregory, landscape architect, stated it is not their
intention to create a berm that would impede the view of the
residents of Laguna de la Paz. He would suggest, even though
they'have the berms at the levels that are appropriate, when the
shaping occurs, they can modify the berms to some degree to
address the concerns of the homeowners. The same thing would
apply to planting. It is not their intention to plant large materials
and obliterate views which are desirable, but rather block those
views that are not desirable. With the reduced grade where
parking would occur, plus the berm adjacent to it, between the
parking and the wall, all of the trucks would be screened.
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§O. Commissioner Tyler stated that in the staff report, it states the
artist parkin§ lot spaces are smaller than usual and yet the artists
usually have vans, RV's, etc. which would require larger spaces
than usual. Mr. Mike Smith, Warner En§ineer, stated the
volunteers would be parking the vehicles which would allow them
to be parked closer than normal. The spaces will not be marked.
§1. Chairman Kirk asked if they had any concerns about how much
parkin§ there is in the back area. Do they concur with staff's
recommendation, or would they like to reduce it. Mr. Smith stated
they concur with staff's recommendation.
52. Commissioner Tyler stated that if the street is widened to 36 feet
and then someone parks an eight foot RV on either side, you
narrow the useful part of that street down to 20 feet. Planning
Consultant Nicole Criste stated the Fire Department requires a 20
foot clearance, but with a 36 foot wide curb to curb street with
parking on both sides, they should have the clearance.
53. Commissioner Tyler expressed his concern about the lighting plan
for the parking lot adjacent to Washington Street, but would agree
with staff's recommendation for the bollard lighting. Condition
#38 should be corrected to require what the applicant will be
using.. Condition #40, 41, and 42 should be straightened out and
tell what the requirements are for the turning movements on those
two access points.
54. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2000-034 recommending to the City Council
certification of a Mitigated Negative Declaration of Environmental
Impact for Environmental Assessment 2000-394.
55. Commissioner Tyler asked if the City Attorney had read the
material submitted by Mr. Ready, and whether or not it had any
bearing on their decision. City Attorney Dawn Honeywell stated
she had not had the opportunity to read the material.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Butler, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
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56. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Butler to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2000-035 recommending
approval of Specific Plan 2000-042, subject to the Findings and
Conditions of Approval as amended.
a. Condition #7: Delete reference to a left turn lane.
b. Condition #27: delete the first sentence.
c. Condition #34:8 foot sidewalk bikepath
d. Condition #38: modify to the street standards that apply to
the project.
e. Renumber #40, #41, and #42
f. Condition #54: the text under Section 1.2.2, Page 1 of the
Specific Plan shall be deleted and the following inserted:
Uses Permitted with Approval of a Minor Use Permit.
Festival Grounds Events for 50 or more persons not
listed in Section 2.1. Banners in excess of those
specifically described in this Specific Plan. Other
uses as permitted in Section 9.40, Residential
Development Standards of the la Quinta Zoning
Ordinance.
Uses Permitted with a Conditional Use Permit.
Educational facilities and classrooms. Art galleries,
Administrative Offices, Amphitheatre, Other uses as
permitted in Section 9.40, Residential Development
" Standards of the La Quinta Zoning Ordinance.
Uses Requiring a Site Development Permit. 'Delete
Festival Grounds. Foundation Building, Parking Lots
(except General Parking Lot), Amphitheatre,
Sculpture garden, Box office building, Headquarters
events building, Restroom buildings, Native American
Memorial, Permanent Signage.
g. Add Condition 54A.: The Specific Plan shall be amended to
allow for the events listed in Section 2.1, without the
submittal of Minor Use Permit applications.
In addition the following shall be added to Section 2.1: The
Foundation shall, within ten days of the beginning of each
quarter each year, submit a list of the events which
occurred in the previous quarter, and those which are
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planned in that quarter to the Community Development
Department, to ensure compliance with the events lists.in
this Section.
h. Add Condition: All relevant text in the Specific Plan shall be
amended to allow, with the approval of the Specific Plan,
the following:
1. Rough grading
2. Perimeter landscaping
3. Construction of the general parking lot and
installation of parking lot lighting.
4. Festival Grounds
No Site Development Permit shall be required. All plans
shall be submitted to the City Engineer and Community
Development Department for review and approval prior to
the initiation of any activity on the site.
i. Condition #57: Modified to state the facility would be
allowed to operate on Sundays and Holidays under the
workday hours. For the five major and five medium events
on the Festival grounds actually "break down" shall be
allowed until 10:00 p.m. Breakdown activities shall be
allowed outside of construction hours for the public health
and safety under emergency conditions. Also applies to the
five major and five medium events as well.
j. Condition #65: to require bollard or Iow lighting.
k. Condition #67: Add an alternative allowing for the
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construction of 100 parallell parking spaces and widening
of the rear drive to 36 foot minimum.
I. Condition #68: Remove "Site Development Permit" and add
"grading"
m. Add Condition: Prior to the issuance of any grading permit
on the project site, the applicant shall submit a written
parking agreement-to the Community Development
Department.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Butler, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
57. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Butler/Tyler to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2000-036 recommending
approval of Conditional Use Permit 2000-048, subject to the
Findings and Conditions of Approval as amended.
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a. Condition #3' Modified to state the facility would be
allowed to operate on Sundays and Holidays under the
workday hours. For the five major and five medium events
on the Festival grounds actually "break down" shall be
allowed until 10:00 p.m. Breakdown activities shall be
allowed outside of construction hours for the public health
and safety under emergency conditions. Also applies to the
five major and medium events as well.
ROLL CALL: AYES' Commissioners Abels, Butler, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES' None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
VI. BUSINESS ITEMS' None.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:' None.
VIII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Commissioner Tyler gave a report of the Council meeting of May 16,
2000.
IX. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Abels/Robbins to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to 'the next
regular meeting of the Planning Commission to be held June 13, 2000, at 7:00 p.m.
This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 10:07 P.M. on May 23,
2000.
Respectfully submitted,
a~y~er~ve Secretary
~uinta, California
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