2001 07 24 PC Minutes MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
July 24, 2001 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Abels who asked Commissioner Robbins to lead the
flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Richard Butler, Tom Kirk, Steve Robbins, Robert
Tyler, and Chairman Jacques Abels.
C. Staff present: Assistant City Attorney John Ramirez, Planning Manager
Christine di Iorio, Senior Engineer Steve Speer, and Executive Secretary
Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:
A. Mr. Lee Osborn, 43671 Messina Court, La Quinta, stated he was moving
his business to the new La Quinta Court complex and will leasing two
and a half units, of this building. He was present to request that he be
able to center his business sign over the area he will be leasing.
Commissioner Butler asked if this was something they had to do or could
it be handled by staff. Staff stated it would need to be agenized for the
Commission to take action. Commissioner Kirk stated it was his
understanding that the applicant requested the location of the signs.
Discussion followed regarding the sign approval. Staff was directed to
agenize this item for the next meeting upon receiving an aplication.
B. Ms. Kim Bird, 52,360 Avenida Madero, stated that she had become
aware that the Santa Rosa Plaza-Embassy Suites project had been
scheduled for City Council on August 7, 2001. When their Referendum
was denied by the Council they had agreed that this project would have
to go back to the Planning Commission before going to the City Council
due to the new design that would have to be done. She was present to
ask why this was bypassing the Commission and going directly to the
-~ City Council. In her opinion, this should come back to the Commission
before going on to the City Council. She would also like to know if the
applicant had permission to increase the size/width. Commissioner Kirk
asked if they could know the process. Assistant City Attorney John
Ramirez stated the Commission could take no action at this time but staff
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could give a report on the process. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio
stated it was the determination by the Community Development Director
with regards to the processing in accordance with the Code sections for
General Permitting Process and the reference is to modifications by the
applicant and the director determining that the plan modifications would
result in a significant change, referred the matter back to the original
decision making authority, which is the City Council.
C. Kay Wolff, 77-227 Calle Ensenada, thanked staff for placing the General
Plan, Master Environmental Assessment, and Environmental Assessment
at the library for review. It is an important document for the citizens of
La Quinta and her concern is that there might not have as much
distribution or circulation so the citizens can voice their opinion and make
educated comments.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Abels asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of
July 10, 2001. Commissioner Robbins asked that Page 5, Item //2 be
corrected to state "Chairman Abels"; Commissioner Kirk asked that Page
2, Item A be corrected to read" .... the issues are not ripe until...".
Commissioner Tyler asked that Page 4, Item //10 be corrected to read,
"...profile lighting in the parking lot."; Page 6, Item //11 be corrected to
read, "Commissioner Tyler stated that that type..."; Page 10, Item//7 be
corrected to state, "Commissioner Tyler...". There being no further
corrections, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners Tyler/Butler
to approve the minutes as corrected. Unanimously approved.
B. Department Report: None.
V. PRESENTATIONS: None.
VI. PUBLIC HEARING:
A. Continued - Environmental Assessment 2001-425. Conditional Use
Permit 2001-061. and Site Development Permit 2001-706; a request of
AT&T Wireless Services. for certification of a Mitigated Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact and approval of the installation of a
65 foot high wireless antenna with m°nopalm prototype design and
construction of a single story 1,002 square foot building for related
equipment to be located west of Eisenhower Drive, north of Los Arboles
and south of Avenida Fernando within the La Quinta Resort and Club.
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1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planing Manager Christine di Iorio presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Kirk questioned the mitigation monitoring program.
The only impact deemed significant was groundshaking; was that
appropriate? It is his understanding the mitigation monitoring
program is only to address impacts, so there would be no
mitigations for areas there are no impacts. As there are no impact
on air quality, why would we have programs dealing with it. Staff
stated that was something that needed to be resolved. Staff has
been taking them out of mitigation measures as they are UBC
requirements. Commissioner Kirk stated that if they are complying
with City Codes why are they being addressed in the monitoring
program. Assistant City Attorney John Ramirez stated that rather
than continuing this discussion, staff will evaluate the form and
make changes accordingly. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio
stated a change should be made to the form.
3. Commissioner Kirk stated the only impact listed were related to
seismic groundshaking and the mitigation measure is compliance
with City standards. Projects have to comply with City standards
regardless of mitigation measures and therefore, should not have
to be a part of the mitigation measures. On the mitigation
monitoring, if they are complying with City codes, the project as
proposed, unless the project as proposed is not complying with
City codes, it would not have an impact. If we are saying the City
codes then we would have a new mitigation program to address
it. Staff stated that in this instance, it would be easier to change
the mark for that issue.
4. Commissioner Butler asked if this was the third communication
tower at the La Quinta Hotel and Resort facility. Staff stated it
was the second permanent facility; there were two temporary.
Commissioner Butler asked if they were under the same
groundshaking zone. Staff stated they would have to review the
file.
5. Commissioner Tyler questioned a letter received by Mr. Jerry
Swanger, Sr. stating his objection to the project, and whether the
tower was constructed out of wrought iron.
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6. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Ms. Polly Johnson, representing AT & T Wireless
Services, stated it is a metal pole clad in a synthetic bark to have
the appearance of a palm tree. She was available to answer any
other questions.
7. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Tyler asked if all the proposed equipment would
meet current FCC standards. Ms. Johnson stated yes.
8. Chairman Abels asked if there was any radiation from the tower.
Ms. Johnson stated their levels are Iow and they would have to
conform to all FCC standards.
9. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to speak on this
item. There being no further discussion, the public participation
portion of the hearing was closed and open for Commission
discussion.
10. Commissioner Kirk asked that the Mitigation Monitoring Program
reflect their changes.
11. Commissioner Robbins stated he has no problem with this project,
but has an objection to the City of Indian Wells who will not
accept any communication towers, which pushes all them to La
Quinta and Palm Desert.
1 2. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Butler/Tyler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-100 certifying a Mitigated Negative Declaration
of Environmental Impact for Environmental Assessment 2001-426
as amended.
a. Environmental Checklist VI.II be marked as no or less than
significant impact.
b. Delete the Mitigation Monitoring Program
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
1 3. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Butler/Kirk to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2001-1 01 approving Conditional
Use Permit 2001-061, as recommended.
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ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
14. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Butler/Robbins to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2001-102 approving Site
Development Permit 2001-706, as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
B. Site Development Permit 2001-707; a request of PM La Quinta LLC, for
review of architectural and landscaping plans for 4 prototype residential
units with three to four facades each for the property located at the
northeast corner of Orchard Lane and Avenue 50 within Tract 28964
(Talante).
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Butler stated he has reviewed the project and does
like the project, but they did not receive any colored renderings to
review.
3. Commissioner Robbins stated he too needed to have the colored
renderings to make a determination. Mr. Geoff McComic,
representing the applicant, presented colored elevations and stated
he was available for any questions.
4. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Tyler asked why staff was asking for one inch
caliper trees measured three feet from grade in the front yard.
That is a smaller tree than normally required for a project of this
size. Mr. McComic stated the two trees were 36-inch box trees.
__ Staff stated 15 gallon trees are about one inch in diameter. The
developers are having difficulty obtaining quality plant material.
5. Commissioner Butler asked what the City standards were
regarding the caliper of the tree. Staff stated it was determined
by the conditions.
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6. Commissioner Tyler asked if all the houses would be one story.
Mr. McComic stated they were all one story.
7. Commissioner Robbins asked how many units in this subdivision.
Mr. McComic stated 78.
8. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened the project
for Commission discussion.
9. Commissioner Robbins stated he was under the impression that
the City's Landscape Ordinance required any subdivision over a
certain number, would have to have one landscape option for a
desertscape for front yards for the models. Also, why are the
conditions requiring turf in the front yard. Staff stated they would
have to review the Code. Under compatibility review, of which
this is not, there is a requirement for 24-inch box trees with 1.5-
2" calipher and ten feet tall, but under residential tract
developments, which is where this development falls, there is not
a requirement for landscaping.
10. Commissioner Butler asked the applicant if water tolerant
landscaping was going to be a problem. Mr. McComic stated they
have gone to having 30% drought material. What they have found
is that once the property owner takes ownership, they either have
all turf, or no turf.
11. Commissioner Kirk asked why we were requiring turf if the Code
does not. Mr. McComic states the 20-30% requirement works for
them. He has no problem providing a drought tolerant option.
Assistant City Attorney John Ramirez stated that Section
8.13.030(D)(2)-Public Education, of the Municipal Code states,
"Model homes. At least one model home that is landscaped in each
project consisting of eight or more homes shall demonstrate via
signs and information, the principles of water efficient landscapes
described in this chapter."
12. Commissioner Butler asked if the applicant had to actually
construct the landscape 'plan. Assistant City Attorney John
Ramirez stated as he interprets the Code section, it is their
obligation to provide public education on the water efficient
landscaping, perhaps drip irrigation, things of that nature. The
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baseline appearing to be the standards of the Water Efficiency
Ordinance. Commissioner Butler stated the Architecture and
Landscaping Review Committee should be made aware of this and
made part of their review process. Discussion followed as to how
this would be implemented on this project.
1 3. Commissioner Tyler asked if there was a Specific Plan for the tract
map. Staff stated no.
14. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Butler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-103 approving Site Development Permit 2001-
707, subject to the findings and conditions as amended:
a. Condition 2.A. Remove the requirement for turf in the front
yard
b. Add Condition: Requiring a model home be in compliance
with Water Efficiency Ordinance in regard to the front yard
landscaping.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
Commissioners Tyler/Robbins moved to reorganize the Agenda taking Business Item
"A" before Public Hearing Item "C".
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Sign Permit 98-415, Amendment //1; a request of Southwest Sign
Company (Storage USA) for review of proposed sign plans for an
additional identification sign for the property located at 46-600 Adams
Street.
1. Chairman Abels asked for the staff report. Planning Manager
Christine di Iorio presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler stated the drawing of the sign states 50
square feet and the staff report states 58 square feet. Staff
stated their analysis, per the sign regulations, showed a total of 58
square feet.
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3. Commissioner Robbins asked if the "Self Storage" were removed,
could they increase the size of "Storage USA". Staff stated that
was correct.
4. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Jack Fovell, Southwest Sign Company
representing the applicant, stated that the discrepancies in the
square footage was due to the white space between the lines. He
calculated the sign area by calculating each letter and not the
entire sign face. Of the three conditions they only have a concern
in regard to the removal of the "trademark" wording, "Self
Storage". They are trying to obtain information from the corporate ·
offices to determine whether or not it is part of their trademark, as
requested by staff. Second is the wire-way on the front of the
sign. This is a concrete wall building that has no parapet and the
space immediately behind the sign is part of a rented storage unit.
This is locked and inaccessible during a normal business day.
Therefore, from a service and safety point of view having the wire-
way on the front of the building allows them accessibility to the
wiring.
5. Commissioner Kirk asked how he addresses the wiring on the
existing sign. Mr. Fovell stated the existing sign is constructed on
a pop-out, architectural soffit over the entryway. There is actUal
attic space on the Adams Street side of the building.
6. Commissioner Butler asked how they would handle the exposed
wiring. Mr. Fovell explained the construction of the sign. No
exposed wiring would be seen.
7. Commissioner Tyler commended the applicant on the look and
upkeep of the building.
8. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion and opened the item for Commission
discussion.
9. There being no further discussion it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Butler to adopt Minute Motion 2001-013
approving Site Development Permit 98-415, Amendment //1,
subject to the findings and conditions as recommended.
a. Condition //2 deleted.
1 0. Unanimously approved.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS - CONTINUED
C.- Zoning Ordinance Amendment 2001-070; a request of the City for
consideration of miscellaneous amendments to Title 9-Zoning Code and
Title 13-Subdivision Ordinance of the La Quinta Municipal Code.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
a. Section 9.50.090 (A)(B) and (C). Commissioner Kirk asked
if the site inspection was after the fact. Staff clarified that
the inspection was prior to a building permit being issued.
Approved as recommended by staff.
b. Section 9.50.090(B). COmmissioner Tyler asked that it be
changed to "require" a conditional use permit.
c. Section 9.60.030(C)(4): Commissioner Tyler asked if the
developments with private streets, which are narrow, would
be affected, Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated private
streets were not considered in regard to this section. Staff
recommended this be for public streets only and a separate
section be added for private streets.
d. Section 9.60.030(C)(1)(c): Commissioner Tyler questioned
how other trellis' would be addressed. Staff stated they are
not considered a permanent structure. Approved as
recommended.
e. Section 9.60.045: Commissioners questioned what the
problem was attaching to a wall. Staff explained the basic
reason was structural requirements. Delete "B" and replace
with "B" 1) with the removal of "except freestanding"
fireplaces, and 2) delete 2-4.
f. Section 9.60,070(B)(2): Commissioner Robbins stated he
does not understand why his pool equipment cannot be
placed next to his house or fence. He has a 15-foot
sideyard and the pool equipment has to be placed right in
the middle of this setback instead of to either side to keep
it clear which now blocks the setback. Commissioner Butler
stated that when a pool is in the frontyard the property
owner is very limited to where he can put the pool
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equipment. Commissioner Tyler questioned enclosing the
equipment in the frontyard. Section a. add "immediately"
before enclosed in the second sentence; as recommended.
Section c. Add a section, "when there is no wall".
g. Section 9.60.075: Section a. On a 5,000 square foot lot,
a condenser is allowed in the front yard where there is a
wall around the yard or it is screened by a masonry wall,
remove the last sentence and change "compressors" to
"condensers"; Section b. as recommended. Section c. Add
a section "where there is no wall".
h. Section 9.60.1 60(3): as recommended.
i. Section 9.60.240(E)(i)(ii)(b)(c): as recommended.
j. Section 9.60.250(E): as recommended.
k. Section 9.60.300(I)(1): as recommended.
I. Section 9.65.030(A)(1)(a)(b)(c)(d): add language to prohibit
a utility vault in the sidewalks. Sections (b) and (c) should
be made options of design. Consider allowing upper stories
to extend out to the property line with no setback. Retain
setbacks and move design details into guidelines.
m. Section 9.65.030(A)(3)(a): as recommended
n. Section 9.65.040(D): Commissioner Kirk stated they
wanted more discretion than interpretation. As
recommended.
o. Section 9.65.040: as recommended,
p. Section 9.100.1 50(G): as recommended.
q. Section 9.150.060 Table 9-11: encourage tandem and
side-loaded garages. Leave the Table 9-11 for minimum off
street parking as it is currently written.
r. Section 9.150.080(B)(1): leave the length at 19-feet, not
1 8 feet as recommended.
s. Section 9.1 50.080(B)(7): as recommended.
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t. Section 9.150.100: as recommended.
u. Section 9.200.110(D): as recommended.
2. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to speak on this
item.
3. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened the project
for Commission discussion.
4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Butler/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-104 approving Zoning Code Amendment 2001-
070, as amended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Commissioner Tyler gave a report of the City Council meeting of July 19,
2001.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Tyler/Butler to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the next
regular meeting of the Planning Commission to be held August 28, 2001, at 7:00 p.m.
This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 9:55 p.m. on July 24,
2001.
Respectfully submitted,
City of'T_a Ouinta, California
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