2001 08 28 PC Minutes MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
August 28, 2001 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Abels who asked Commissioner Butler to lead the flag
salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Richard Butler, Tom Kirk, Steve Robbins, Robert
Tyler, and Chairman Jacques Abels. Commissioner Tyler thanked
everyone for their good well wishes for the surgery he recently went
through.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Assistant
City Attorney John Ramirez, Planning Manager Christine di Iorio, Senior
Engineer Steve Speer, Principal Planners Start Sawa and Fred Baker,
Planning Consultant Nicole Criste and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Abels asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of
July 24, 2001. Commissioner Tyler asked that Page 4, Item //8 be
corrected to read, "Ms. Johnson stated the levels are Iow and would
conform to all FCC standards." There being no further corrections, it
was moved and seconded by Commissioners Robbins/Tyler to approve
the minutes as corrected. Unanimously approved.
B. Department Report: None.
V. PRESENTATIONS: None.
VI. PUBLIC HEARING:
A. Continued - Zoning Code Amendment 2000-066; a request of the City
for review of applicability and impact of current Water Efficient
Ordinance on development proposals.
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1. Staff requested this item be tabled at this time. It would be re-
noticed when it was ready to be brought back to the Commission.
2. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Tyler/Butler to table this issue as requested.
B. Environmental Assessment 2001-427, Conditional Use Permit 2001-062;
a request of AT&T Wireless Services. for certification of a Mitigated
Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact and approval of the
installation of telecommunication apparatus on a new 120 foot high
tower located at 81-600 Avenue 58.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Robbins stated he thought this was an existing
tower they were adding an antenna to. Staff clarified that Sprint
had added an antenna to the existing tower and AT&T was
requesting an additional tower to accommodate the new antennas.
3. Commissioner Tyler asked for clarification on the staff report
where it states the 1 2 antennas are six feet in height and 1 2 feet
wide as this was misleading. It is his understanding there are
several arrays that are spaced appropriately for the frequency
involved and in between there is a lot of space. Staff stated that
was correct. The description in the staff report describes the
entire envelope.
4. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Ms. Polly Johnson, representing AT & T Wireless
Services, stated she was available to answer any questions.
5. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked if all the facilities they intend
to use meet all the current standards of the FCC and if this tower
required an obstruction light to meet the FAA requirements. Ms.
Johnson stated they were licensed by the FCC and met all
requirements and no light was required at this height according to
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the FAA. Commissioner Tyler stated he would like a condition
added that if the FAA require a strobe light they be required to
install one.
6. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to speak on this
item. There being no further discussion, the public participation
portion of the hearing was closed and open for Commission
discussion.
7. Commissioner Robbins stated his only objection was the
proliferation of towers in the City.
8. Commissioner Kirk stated he had the same concern, but at the
same time, if there was a good location for a tower, this was it.
9. Commissioner Butler asked if there would ever be a shared site on
the towers. Ms. Johnson stated AT&T is only planning on the
antennas at the top. Their landlord, liD, is possibly planning on
adding some more of their radio equipment for additional carriers.
The tower was designed to carry other carriers.
10. Commissioner Tyler stated his concurrence that this was a step in
the right direction to allow other carriers to utilize their tower.
1 1. Commissioner Kirk asked if a condition could be added requiring
them to allow other carriers. Assistant City Attorney John
Ramirez stated he would have to look at the Tele-communications
Act before he could comment. Principal Planner Fred Baker stated
AT&T has stated the future locations are not being requested for
at this time. If they want to expand their antenna service they
will, if the landlord agrees; but at present the intent is to rent them
to another carrier.
12. Commissioner Robbins suggested that instead of continuing to
approve numerous towers, the Commission should approve
multiple use sites throughout the City and not have the large
proliferation of towers.
13. Commissioner Kirk suggested a condition be added encouraging
co-location by AT&T assuming it did not conflict with the FCC
Act. Assistant City Attorney John Ramirez stated this approach
appears to be innocuous and he has no problems. He would
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suggest staff and the City Attorney's office work together to
provide information to the Commission at the next meeting in
regard to the rules governing towers/antennas.
14. Commissioner Kirk asked that staff fashion an appropriate
condition that furthers the spirit of a co-location idea.
1 5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Butler/Tyler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-105 certifying a Mitigated Negative Declaration
of Environmental Impact for Environmental Assessment 2001-427
as submitted.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
16. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2001-106 approving
Conditional Use Permit 2001-062, as recommended.
a. Condition //10: Policy statement added supporting co-
location with the permission of liD.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
C. Conditional Use Permit 2001-065; a request of WalMart Store//1 805 for
review of a request to allow 43 metal containers for the temporary
storage of holiday merchandise from September 1,2001 through January
15,201, on the north and west sides of the existing store within Specific
Plan 89-014 for the property located at 78-960 Highway 111 within the
One Eleven La Quinta Shopping Center.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked the at aisle widths be clarified to state
aisle widths between groups of containers. In addition, does this
permit allow them to have the storage bins every year. Staff
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stated yes, this would allow them to place the storage bins every
year for the same time for up to 43 containers. If they wanted to
make any changes, they would have to come back to the Planning
Commission for an amendment.
3. Commissioner Butler asked if the City had received any complaints
in regard to the removal of the containers. Staff stated there had
not been no issues raised by the City's Code Compliance
Department. Commissioner Butler stated he would prefer them
come back each year rather than giving a blanket approval.
4. Commissioner Kirk asked how many containers are out there
today. Staff stated none. Commissioner Kirk asked if staff had
heard of any expansion plans by WalMart for a permanent solution
to the problem.
5. Commissioner Robbins asked staff to clarify how many containers
would be on site. Discussion followed regarding the number of
-- containers to be placed on site.
6. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Robert Schneider, representing WalMart, stated
he was' available to answer any questions.
7. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Kirk asked if there were any plans for
expansion. Mr. Schneider stated a WalMart/Sams Club was to be
constructed at the Monterey exit from Interstate 10 and it would
affect this store significantly and may eliminate their need for the
trailers in the future. They are still studying the feasibility of
enlarging the building or turn it into a super center.
8. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commission on this issue. There being no further public comment,
Chairman Abels closed the public participation portion of the
hearing and opened the project for Commission discussion.
9. Commissioner Robbins stated he had great concerns about
approving this forever. He believes the containers to be unsightly
and as their request last year was after the fact, he has no
sympathy nor does he believes it has any affect on what they are
approving for this year. If they are planning on. new stores or
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expanding this one, they may not have a need for the additional
trailers in the future. Therefore, he would not want to grant an
approval for more than one year.
10. Commissioners Kirk and Butler agreed.
11. Commissioner Tyler stated a condition should be added that
nothing be placed, or stored on top of the containers. Second, a
condition be added that prohibits the use of the temporary storage
shelves inside the store. He also agrees that the approval should
not be for no more than one year. Mr. Schneider stated he had no
objections to the conditions as stated;
1 2. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Butler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-107 approving Conditional Use Permit 2001-065,
subject to the findings and conditions as amended:
a. Condition//2: Deleted and replaced with, "The storage units
shall be removed by January 1 5, 2002.
b. Condition//6: Nothing shall be placed on top of the storage
containers.
c. Condition //7: The use of make-shift temporary storage
shelves above the standard shelving within the store is
prohibited.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
D. Site Development Permit 2000-682, Amendment//2; a request of World
Gym Palm Desert LLC, for approval of a second sign where one is
allowed at the property located at 46-760 Commerce Court.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Robbins asked if the logo was consistent with the
national trademark logo, and he finds that contradictory to the
action taken by the Commission at the last meeting for the Self
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Storage. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio stated the Self
Storage was to submit proof that the registered trade mark was
the same as what they were proposing, and they were unable to
do so. Whereas, World Gym has proven this is their registered
trade mark.
3. Commissioner Kirk clarified the number of signs requested and
asked what the rationale was to allow the second sign, Staff
stated the location of the sign over the entry is not visible from
the parking lot and the second sign would be visible.
Commissioner Kirk asked if this would allow other tenants to apply
for the second sign based on this finding. Staff stated this was
specific to the criteria under "sign allowance for additional signs
through the criteria alternative locations for the most effective use
of graphic representation" in the Zoning Code. As this building is
at the end of a cul-de-sac it did not have a sign visible from the
cul-de-sac, so that was the recommendation for the additional
signs. Discussion followed regarding the criteria for additional
signs.
4. Commissioner Kirk asked if there was a site plan and if there
wasn't a better location where only one sign would best serve the
applicant. Staff indicated where the signs would be located on
the building.
5. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mrs. Wanda Mataranga, representing World Gym,
stated the sign was needed because the existing sign is not visible
from Highway 1 1 1. However, they thought they were requesting
a sign on the south elevation to be seen from Highway 1 1 1.
6. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Kirk asked if they could only have one
sign where would they want it. Ms. Mataranga stated it would
have to be on the south side, but they would limit their visibility
from the parking lot.
7. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to address the
_ Commission on this issue. There being no further public comment,
Chairman Abels closed the public participation portion of the
hearing and opened the project for Commission discussion.
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8. Commissioner Robbins stated he was confused about having an
application stating one location and the applicant wanting a
different. He can understand the applicant's concern for visibility,
but he is uncertain as to where the sign(s) should be, as this could
set a precedent for future tenants.
9. Commissioner Kirk stated he too was concerned about sign
proliferation. Obviously, the desire of the Commission is to give
the tenant good visibility. Maybe they could allow the second sign
for a specific period of time, or have them reduce the size of the
entrance sign.
10. Commissioner Butler stated that approving two signs could be
allowed with the possibility of relocating one of the signs in the
future.
11. Commissioner Tyler stated he agreed with the applicant that they
needed visibility from Highway 111. He would recommend
approving the sign request as submitted.
12. Chairman Abels stated he concurred with Commissioner Tyler.
13. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Tyler/Butler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-1 08 approving Site Development Permit 2000-
682, Amendment #2, subject to-the findings and conditions as
amended:
a. Condition #2: The raceway shall be painted to match the
building.
b. Condition #3: The second sign shall be located on the south
elevation.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Tyler, and Chairman Abels.
NOES: Commissioners Kirk and Robbins. ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: None.
E. Tentative Tract Map 301 25 Amendment #1; a request of KSL Land
Corporation for approval of a reconfiguration of 21 of 55 residential lots
to encompass originally approved open space for the property located at
the southeast corner of Eisenhower Drive and Avenue 50.
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1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff. There
being none, the applicant was asked to address the Commission.
Mr. Chris Bergh, representing the applicant, stated they were in
agreement with the conditions as recommended and was available
to answer any questions.
3. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked how Lot 66 could be
developed due to its size. Mr. Bergh explained it would be a
standard unit like all the others. It is an odd shape on the corner
which requires increased setbacks and as it is right behind the
gate it is difficult to get into which is one of the reasons they left
it as large as it is.
4. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commission on this issue. There being no further public comment,
Chairman Abels closed the public participation portion of the
hearing and opened the project for Commission discussion.
5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-109 approving Tentative Tract Map 30125,
Amendment //1, subject to the findings and conditions as
recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
F. Tentative Parcel Map 28334, Amendment //1 and Site Development
Permit 97-608, Amendment //2; a request of KSL Land Recreation
Corporation to amend Conditions of Approval pertaining to required off-
site street improvements on Eisenhower drive south of Avenue 50.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
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2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Butler asked if this was before them for
"housekeeping" issues only. Staff stated yes.
3. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. As the applicant had no comments and there were
no questions of the applicant, Chairman Abels asked if anyone else
would like to address the Commission on this issue.
4. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened the project
for Commission discussion.
5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-110 approving Tentative Parcel Map 28334,
Amendment //1, subject to the findings and conditions as
recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
6. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Robbins/Butler to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2001-111 approving Site
Development Permit 97-608, Amendment //2, subject to the
findings and conditions as recommended:
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
Chairman Abels recessed the meeting at 8:04 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at
8:09
It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Robbins/Butler to reorganize the
agenda to take Business Items A and B at this time.
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Sign Permit 98-41 5, Amendment #1; a request of Ontario Neon for an
amendment to a previously approved sign program for the One Eleven La
Quinta Shopping Center located at 78-630 Highway 111 (Stater Bros.).
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1. Chairman Abels asked for the staff report. Planning Manager
Christine di Iorio presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if this was a second business and
where the 12 feet was measured from. Staff stated the applicant
could answer his first question and in regard to the height, the 12
feet was measured from the sidewalk.
3. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Roy Courtney, representing the applicant, stated
the applicant is an independent business and has a separate
license and will occupy 430 square feet of the building.
4. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Kirk asked if it was a separate company.
-- Mr. Courtney stated he is unaware if Stater Bros. has any financial
interest in the pharmacy, but he does know they do have a
separate license.
5. Commissioner Tyler asked the applicant to describe the sign,
which he did.
6. Chairman Abels asked if there was any other public comment.
There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion and opened the item for Commission
discussion.
7. Commissioner Kirk noted his objection to sign proliferation.
8. There being no further discussion it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Tyler/Butler to adopt Minute Motion 2001-014
approving an amendment to the sign program for Specific Plan 89-
014, subject to the findings and conditions as recommended.
9. The motion passed with Commissioner Kirk voting no.
B. Specific Plan 99-036; a request of Peterson Slater and Osborne for
modification to a previously approved sign program for the property
located at 79-440 Corporate Center Drive, within La Quinta Corporate
Center.
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1. Chairman Abels asked for the staff report. Planning Manager
Christine di Iorio presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff. There
being none, Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to
address the Commission. The applicant stated he was available
to answer any questions.
3. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. There being none, Chairman Abels asked if there was
any other public comment. There being no further public
comment, Chairman Abels closed the public participation portion
and opened the item for Commission discussion.
4. There being no further discussion it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Kirk to adopt Minute Motion 2001-015
approving an amendment to the sign program for Specific Plan 99-
036, subject to the findings and conditions as recommended.
5. Unanimously approved.
Community Development Director Jerry Herman excused himself due to a possible
conflict of interest and left the meeting.
G. Specific Plan 2000-042, Amendment #1; a request of the La Quinta Arts
Foundation for approval of an amendment to modify the parking lot
lighting standards at the project located on the west side of Washington
Street, between Avenue 47 and Avenue 48.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio and Planning
Consultant Nicole Criste presented the information contained in
the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Kirk asked staff to clarify the two photometric
studies. Both were the same with the exception that one of the
plans also included lighting for the artist's parking lot.
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3. Commissioner Robbins asked staff to explain the difference
between the two different type of light fixtures, bollards and
poles. Staff asked that the applicant explain this.
4. Commissioner Tyler asked what color light would be put out by
the bulbs proposed. Staff stated yellow. Commissioner Tyler
asked if these lights would affect the traffic on Washington Street.
Staff stated the study shows the light exposure to Washington
Street is "0" due to the berm and light source.
5. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Frank Delaney, representing the applicant, gave
his presentation on the project. He further stated they concurred
with staff's recommendations and went on to explain the reason
for the request. He then addressed the issues raised in the letter
received from Wayne Guralnick, attorney for Laguna de la Paz
homeowners and asked that the Commission either approve or
deny the application to allow the project to continue going
forward. They would not like to have the project continued. He
then introduced Mr. Ralph Raya of MRC Associates, the electrical
engineer consultant, who gave a presentation.
6. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Kirk asked Mr. Raya to qualitatively
explain the difference between the two photometric studies. Mr.
Raya explained the difference. Commissioner Kirk asked what the
difference was between the two light fixtures at the boundary
with Laguna de la Paz. Mr. Raya stated they chose a light fixture
that was totally shielded with the flat lens and amber lighting to
reduce the amount of light. They did not increase the amount of
lighting at the property line, or along Washington Street. They
reduced the hot spots and foot-candles over the site.
Commissioner Kirk asked how this entire project with either light
source compares to the lighting along Highway 1 1 1. Mr. Raya
stated landscaping lighting only lights a single area. This will have
less foot-candles than the parking lot lighting at the corner
shopping center.
.-_ 7. Commissioner Tyler asked where the height of the fixtures was
measured from. Mr. Raya stated it was measured at finish grade.
The opening of the fixture is at 1 8 feet.'
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8. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commission on this issue. Ms. Marie Bochnewich, representing
the HOA for Laguna de la Paz, stated they were requesting a
continuance to allow them time to evaluate the proposal as one
week is not adequate time to evaluate the lighting plan.
9. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion of the hearing and opened the project
for Commission discussion.
10. Commissioner Robbins stated he shares the concerns of the HOA,
but also shares the safety concerns of the City and Arts
Foundation. He concurs with the light study as presented and as
the application will not be taken to the City Council for a month it
will allow them ample time to have their study completed.
11. Commissioner Kirk stated he was supportive of the bollard lighting
when the project was originally approved. However, he did hope
the Laguna de la Paz lighting consultant could come up with an
alternative lighting program utilizing the bollard lighting. He also
concurs there is ample time for the homeowners to conduct a
study prior to the City Council meeting.
12. Commissioners Butler, Tyler, and Chairman Abels stated they
concurred with the statements made.
1 3. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Kirk to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2001-112 approving Specific Plan 2000-042,
Amendment #1, subject to the findings and conditions as
amended:
a. Condition #2: "...and the light fixtures shall be a maximum
of 18-feet in height."
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
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IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Commissioner Butler asked staff about the letter regarding the
Community Park. Discussion followed. Staff stated this would be on the
next Planning Commission agenda.
B. Commissioner Tyler gave a report of the City Council meeting of July 19,
2001.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Tyler/Butler to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the next
regular meeting of the Planning Commission to be held August 28, 2001, at 7:00 p.m.
This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 8:48 p.m. on July 24,
2001.
Respectfully submitted,
'L_~B~t~J,._~Sawyer, Executive Secretary
City'Sf La Quinta, California
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