2002 03 26 PC Minutes MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the'La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle'Tampico, La Quinta, CA
March 26, 2002 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:04
p.m. by Chairman Abels who lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Richard Butler, Tom Kirk, Robert Tyler, and
Chairman Jacques Abels. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Kirk/Butler to excuse Commissioner Robbins. Unanimously approved.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Assistant
City Attorney John Ramirez, Senior Engineer Steve Speer, Principal
Planner Fred Baker, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Abels asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of
March 12, 2002. Commissioner Tyler asked that Page 7, Item //18 be
corrected. There being no further corrections, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Tyler to approve the minutes as
corrected. Unanimously approved.
B. Department Report: None
V. PRESENTATIONS: None.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Environmental Assessment 2000-395 Addendum and SPecific Plan 2000-
043 Amendment //1; a request of Madison/P.T.M. La Quinta, L.L.C. a
recommendation for certification of an Addendum to a previously
certified Mitigated Negative Declaration of environmental impact and
review of revised design guidelines and development standards for an
81,407 square foot commercial center located at the northwest corner
of Highway I 11 and Washington Street.
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1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
3. Chairman Abels asked if there Were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Kirk asked if the parking analysis should be included
in the Specific Plan. Staff stated a parking analysis would be
required at the time a site development permit or conditional use
permit are submitted and uses identified. At that time the amount
of parking needed would be defined.
4. Commissioner Butler asked if the Architecture and Landscaping
Review Committee reviewed the changes. Staff stated they
review projects and not specific plans.
5. Commissioner Tyler asked staff who was requiring the stone
materials on the Circle K building. Staff stated the Specific Plan
only allows the Cantera stone. This Amendment allows for
variation.
6. Commissioner Tyler asked if the updated General Plan adopted by
the City Council was in affect at this time. Staff stated yes.
Commissioner Tyler then questioned why a street name did not
require a General Plan Amendment. Staff stated the General Plan
policy is to have the same street name carried throughout a
project. In this case the access at both entrances already have
different names. Their request is to have the same name.
7. Commissioner Kirk asked if the Specific Plan allows for simulated
Cantera stone patterns. Staff stated yes.
8. Commissioner Butler asked if a hotel was proposed, would the
parking analysis be brought forward again. Staff stated they
would have to prepare a parking plan to accommodate the use
proposed. At this time they are only asking to have the use
approved. Commissioner Butler asked if the City, at the time the
parking analysis was reviewed, be able to control the valet
parking. Staff stated projects have been conditioned to provide a
valet parking program, but staff's primarily purpose is to look at
the number of spaces.
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9. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr.'Rick Wilkerson, representing the applicant,
stated his concern with the Point Happy Street sign. When the
project was proposed they were told they had to use the existing
street names. At that time they were unaware of the significant
importance of the site and name "Point Happy". In regard to
staff's recommendations, he asked where the light bollards were
to be placed. Staff clarified they were requesting the bollard type
be identified in the final Specific Plan. Mr. Wilkerson stated he
t would like to retain the use of the Red Fountain Grass. He further
questioned the condition requiring them to supply power to the
bus stop and asked that it be removed. He voiced an objection to
the design of the bus stop as the users do not use the seating, but
stand in their landscaping to be in the shade, which has required
them to replaced the landscaping three times so far. They are
willing to plant some sizeable trees and ground cover to help solve
the problem.
10. Chairman Abels asked is there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler noted the bus stop on Washington
Street was not on the Specific Plan and needed to be added and
he thought it would be difficult to change the street names at this
time.
1 1. Commissioner Kirk asked the applicant to explain the reasoning for
the change in the sign program. Mr. Wilkerson stated that in
looking at other projects in the Valley, they determined the halo
backlit letters are a better looking sign. The box lights are a
preference. Commissioner Kirk asked staff to clarify the letter
received from Sunline. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated this
particular bus shelter on Washington Street is owned by Sunline.
The bus shelter on Highway 1 1 1 is owned by the City. According
to the letter from Sunline they will maintain the shelter on
Highway 1 1 1 at the City's expense. The one on Washington
Street they will maintain at their expense. This was not known
until it became an issue recently when staff was trying to remove
the bus stop on the south side of Highway 1 1 1 on Washington
Street. Sunline stated they would move the service as soon as
someone gave them power to the new bus shelter. Staff
understood Sunline did not want their own meter, but they would
tie into the property owners meter and pay them a flat fee. This
is not their policy. Staff therefore, asked for a clarification on their
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policy and this letter is the result. If they own the shelter they will
provide their own power, but if it is a developer installed shelter,
they consider it the developer's responsibility to pay for ongoing
maintenance. This is a public facility and once it is turned over to
the public agency, the agency maintains it. Sunline does not do
the same. Now we need lighting and no one wants to pay for it.
In most instances they use solar power, but it has been a problem
with vandalism. Commissioner Kirk asked who was receiving the
revenue from the advertising. Staff stated it was to be split 50%.
Commissioner Kirk stated that if they are receiving 50% of the
revenue, they should be responsible for 50% of the power. If the
shelter was owned by the developer, they could earn the revenue.
12. Mr. Michael Shovlin, owner of One Eleven La Quinta Center, gave
a history of the Point Happy. He stated he had no objection to
continuing the street name "Point Happy Drive" on the east side
of Washington Street into the One Eleven La Quinta Shopping
Center. Commissioner Kirk suggested the owners of the Von's
Shopping Center be contacted to see if they would accept the
name change as well.
13. There being no further public participation, the public comment
portion of the public hearing was closed and open for Commission
discussion.
14. Commissioner Tyler noted minor changes to the staff report. His
only concern was solving the issue of the street name.
1 5. Commissioner Kirk suggested changing the name on Washington
Street all the way across and if a letter is received from the Von's
Shopping Center to allow the name change to occur, they do so
at the Highway 111 entrance. He agrees with allowing the Red
Fountain Grass. In regard to the bus stop, whoever is receiving
revenue from the advertising, should be responsible for paying for
the power. In regard to the design of the bus stop, he concurs
with allowing staff to work with the developer within the Highway
111 Design Guidelines, to provide the shelter and necessary
modifications on the design of the bus shelters.
16. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Tyler/Kirk to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2002-035 recommending
certification of an Addendum to Environmental Assessment 2000-
395, as recommended.
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ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Tyler, and Chairman
Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Robbins.
ABSTAIN: None.
1 7. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Butler to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2002-036 recommending
approval of Specific Plan 2000-043 Amendment No. 1, subject to
the findings and conditions as amended:
A. Condition #:40: Electrical power is to be supplied to and
maintained by the entity who receives revenue from the
advertising on the bus shelter on Washington Street. The
applicant shall be allowed to work with staff to make
modifications to the landscaping at the rear of the bus
shelter to accommodate the bus stop users.
B. Condition #55: Delete
C. Condition #60: A street name change to "Point Happy
Drive" shall be allowed on the east side of the property on
Washington Street into the One Eleven La Quinta Shopping
Center. A street name change to "Point Happy Drive" shall
be allowed when and if written permission is obtained from
the La Quinta Plaza Shopping Center owners to said
change.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Tyler, and Chairman
Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Robbins.
ABSTAIN: None.
D. Environmental Assessment 20002-443, General Plan Amendment 2002-
084. Zone Change 2002-1 06, and Site Development Permit 2002-730;
a request of Clubhouse Associates, L.L.C. for a recommendation for
certification of an Environmental Assessment; change the General Plan
Land Use and Zoning Designation from Low Density Residential to High
Density Residential; and approval of development plans for a 149 unit
apartment complex and ancillary facilities located on a 10.75 acre
triangular parcel on the south side of Avenue 52, east of Jefferson
Street.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
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2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Kirk asked about the results of the water analysis
in regard to the Water Efficient Ordinance. Staff stated the results
of the calculations were on the landscape plans and stated the
maximum allowable is 4,400,000 gallons per year and the actual
use is approximately 2,900,000 gallons per year. Commissioner
Kirk asked where the additional parking spaces would be located
and asked for an explanation of how the fabric roofs would hold
up in the deserts temperatures. He also asked if the three access
t points are appropriate for this kind of project. Senior Engineer
Steve Speer stated it met the General Plan requirements. He
explained and went on to explain the circulation pattern.
Commissioner Kirk asked if the access point and the one to the
east met the 240 foot separation. Staff stated the new General
Plan requires 250 feet between driveways measured between the
curb returns. On the plan there is not enough room for the third
driveway access, it would need to be moved.
3. Commissioner Butler asked if an elevator was required on a three
story building. Staff stated only if the Building Code required it
and Building and Safety did not require it. The applicant is
providing handicapped accessible units.
4. Commissioner Tyler questioned why there was no supporting text
given for Item XVlI(b) Mandatory Findings of Significance in the
Environmental Assessment. Staff explained there were none are
required for this section. Commissioner Tyler asked staff why the
staff reports states a General Plan Amendment is not required
under the updated General Plan, yet there is a General Plan
Amendment Resolution is before them for approval. Staff
explained that since the updated General Plan is within the 30-day
protest period, and the applicant asked for a General Plan
Amendment, staff is processing the General Plan Amendment in
anticipation of the updated General Plan being in affect by the time
this application reaches the City Council. At that time it will no
longer be needed. Commissioner Tyler stated he not concur with
the Site Development Permit findings in regard to the architecture.
In Condition//48, Commissioner Tyler asked staff to explain what
the word "option" meant. Senior Engineer Steve Speer clarified
there were two options the applicant could chose from.
Commissioner Tyler asked staff the location of the mounding as
discussed in Condition //60. Staff clarified they were
recommending four foot mounding in the street landscaping in
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conjunction with the sound wall. Commissioner Tyler asked if
there was to be a block wall on the perimeter of the project. Staff
clarified they were required to provide a sound wall with mounding
along Avenue 52. The applicant was asking for a chainlink fence
on the rear of the site. Commissioner Tyler asked the location of
the retention basin and staff identified them. Staff clarified that
a condition would be added requiring a parcel map to be approved
· prior to building permits being issued.
5. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Chuck Crookrall, representing the applicant,
stated they have no problem with relocating the third access point.
They will hopefully be installing a living fence along the Canal.
The remainder of the site will have a block wall.
6. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked about the lack of elevators
as it seemed to be a marketing issue. Mr. Crookrall stated there
are only four buildings that have three stories, or 20 units.
7. Commissioner Kirk asked if there was any problem having two
access points instead of three. Mr. Crookrall stated he did not see
any objection.
8. Mr. Robert Kraft, architect for the project, stated that in regard to
the 250 foot distance on the access point, it would not be an
issue. Their purpose was to not create a dead-end aisle for the
internal circulation. They have no problem with the perimeter
block wall. The Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee
was in favor of a living fence. He went on to explain the site and
the elevations.
9. Commissioner Tyler asked if the garages would be visible from the
east side of the Canal. Mr. Kraft stated they would be below the
visual site line.
10. Chairman Abels asked about the material to be used on the
carports. Mr. Kraft stated it was the same material as what is
used at the Palm Springs Airport. It is guaranteed for 30-years.
Discussion followed regarding the material to be used for the
carports.
11. Commissioner Kirk asked the applicant to explain what would be
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seen from the other side of the Canal. Mr. Kraft gave a
demonstration. Commissioner Kirk asked about the location of the
extra 39 parking spaces. Mr. Kraft clarified the request was for
39 additional covered spaces not additional spaces. Commissioner
Kirk asked if there was a target demographic for the project. Mr.
Kraft stated he did not have that information. Mr. Crookrall
stated their market study showed a need for upscale apartments
in the age group of 40 +. Commissioner Kirk asked about active
activities. Mr. Kraft explained the amenities. Commissioner Kirk
asked about the north side elevations being typical and how many
would have the blank wall. Mr. Kraft stated not all the buildings
would be the same; only three of the buildings would look at the
blank wall.
12. Commissioner Tyler asked about the long term energy cost
analysis for the units. Mr. Kraft stated none had been done at this
time. They will be as cost effective as they can make them.
13. There being no further public participation, the public comment
portion of the public hearing was closed and open for Commission
discussion.
14. Commissioner Butler stated that on the three story buildings he is
uncomfortable not having elevators as the project will be targeting
the older generation. This project will need additional amenities to
draw people to the site. He would want the project conditioned
to have elevators for the three story units.
15. Commissioner Kirk stated he was in support of ~he General Plan
Amendment. In terms of the design, he has concerns with the
asphalt mote around the perimeter. It needs to be broken up with
landscaping and design to create interest.
16. Commissioner Tyler stated he agrees this is a good location for the
high density project. There needs to be more amenities to off-set
the density. His main concern is the external appearance driving
around it and being highly visible from Avenue 52 and the
shopping center adjacent to it.
17. Commissioner Kirk suggested the architect review the plans in
light of the suggestions made by the Commission. Mr. Crookrall
explained this was not the first design, but it was based on
meeting all the Agency requirements.
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18. Following discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Tyler to continue the project to April 23, 2002
allowing the applicant to work with staff on the following items:
A. Work with staff on the access points to be consistent with
the General Plan.
B. Architecture relief on the end buildings.
C. Landscape relief, greenery or detailing along the carports
and asphalt to break up the asphalt.
D. Provide additional amenities
Unanimously approved.
Chairman Abels recessed the meeting at 9:1 6 p.m. and reconvened at 9:21 p.m.
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Village Use Permit 2000-040 Amendment #1; a request of Chapman Golf
Development, LLC for review of lighting and landscaping plans for a
restaurant to be located on the northeast corner of Avenue 52 and
Desert Club Drive.
1. Commissioner Kirk stated he had a possible conflict of interest and
withdrew from the dias.
2. Chairman Abels asked for the staff report. Principal Planner Fred
Baker presented the information contained in the staff report, a
copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
3. There being no questions of staff, Chairman Abels asked if the
applicant would like to address the Commission. Ms. Christina
Dores, representing the applicant, stated they had met with the
adjacent residents and have made modifications based on their
concerns. She is available to answer any questions.
4. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler stated he would like to hear from
the lighting consultant. Mr. Ralph Reyna, lighting consultant,
reviewed the lighting plan.
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5. Chairman Abels asked if there was any other public comment. Mr.
Brauckmann, 78-175 Calle Cadiz, thanked Chapman Golf for
working with them, but lighting issues still remain. In the staff
report, it was suggested the lighting plan be consistent with the
Zoning Code and he would like to ask for an interpretation of the
Section 9.150.080.K.5. and 6 of the Zoning Code. In addition, he
would like to be assured they are in compliance with Waste
Management requirements.
t 6. Mr. Skip Lench, 43-040 Port Maria, Bermuda Dunes, owner of the
lot at 78-215 Calle Cadiz, thanked the applicant for meeting with
them and working to resolve the landscaping issues. One issue
remaining is the six foot wall on the northern property line. The
wall starts out at six feet and goes down to four feet. He asks
that they all be built at six feet for the full length of the site. In
regard to the lighting he does not think there is a solution to the
problem. They started out with 18-foot lights and are now down
to 14 feet. If they are not willing to lower the lights, he would like
to hire a lighting consultant to see what alternatives are available.
7. There being no further public participation, the public comment
portion was closed and open for Commission discussion.
8. Chairman Abels asked about the height of the existing wall.
Community Development Director Jerry Herman stated that when
the wall was originally constructed some of the property owners
requested a lower wall height and therefore the City lowered the
height.
9. Commissioner Tyler asked if the wall could be conditioned to be
at six feet for the entire length. Community Development Director
Jerry Herman stated it could be conditioned. Commissioner Tyler
asked the distance from the north wall to the proposed location of
the light standards. Principal Planner Fred Baker stated there is 18
feet of landscaping, ten feet of parking area, 26 foot drive aisle
and another 20 feet of parking for a total of 74 feet.
10. Commissioner Butler stated that this light fixture shines down and
there has to be a certain height to make it affective in the area in
which it is shining. If you lower the light, you have to change the
type of light being used. Community Development Director Jerry
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Herman stated the lower the lights, the more light poles are
needed. Mr. Reyna stated the principal of the light is to meet the
Dark Sky Ordinance. The light pyramids down from the light
source. In order to minimize hot spots you add poles. The City
Council has established a criteria for lighting as exemplified by the
La Quinta Arts Foundation site. In order to meet the Ordinance
more poles need to be added. This site requires more lighting due
to the use and time the restaurant will be used. Jt is coming down
to a safety issue to go any further.
11. Commissioner Tyler stated he is comfortable with the good faith
effort the developer has made.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Tyler/Butler to adopt Minute Motion 2002-007,
approving Village Use Permit 2000-040, Amendment //1, as
amended:
A. With the north perimeter wall being constructed to six feet
the entire length of the northern property line.
Unanimously approved.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
B. Commissioner Tyler gave a report on the City Council meeting of March
19, 2002.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Tyler/Robbins to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular
meeting of the Planning Commission to be held April 9, 2002, at 7:00 p.m. This
meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 9:57 p.m. on March 26, 2002.
Respectfully submitted,
Be~ty/J.'S~a4Nyer, Execi~tive Secretary
City o~l-~Quinta, California
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