2002 06 11 PC Minutes MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
June 11, 2002 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:09
p.m. by Chairman Abels who lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Richard Butler, Tom Kirk, Steve Robbins, Robert
Tyler, and Chairman Jacques Abels.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Assistant
City Attorney John Ramirez, Senior Engineer Steve Speer, Principal
Planners Stan Sawa and Fred Baker, Associate Planners Wallace Nesbit,
Greg Trousdell and Martin Maga~a, and Executive Secretary Betty
Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Abels asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of
May 28, 2002. Commissioner Tyler asked that Page 14, Item #7 be
corrected to show a condition was to be added requiring the alignment
of the driveways with Dulce Del Mar; Item #2 corrected to read,
"Commissioner Tyler asked why the applicant was..." Commissioner Kirk
asked that Page 3, Item #12 be corrected to read, "...a specific plan
being solely used..." There being no further corrections, it was moved
and seconded by Commissioners Tyler/Robbins to approve the minutes
as corrected. Unanimously approved.
B. Department Report: None
V. PRESENTATIONS:
A. Community Services Manager John Hardcastle gave a presentation on
Emergency Preparedness. Commissioners thanked staff for the
presentation and the knowledge of knowing how well prepared the City
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actually is for an emergency. They encouraged staff to get the
information out to the public. Chairman Abels asked that the "wheel" be
printed in Spanish and Commissioner Robbins asked that the local utility
companies be encouraged to participate with the City's planning.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Site Development Permit 2002-739, a request of Summit Team, Inc. for
review of architectural and landscaping plans for a single story
commercial building of 5,839 square feet located on the west side of
Washington Street, north of Calle Tampico within the La Quinta Village
Shopping Center (Pad Site "D").
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Kirk asked if staff thought the parking was
adequate. Staff stated yes and confirmed that the center is over
parked.
3. Commissioner Butler asked about the sign program. Staff noted
the changes to the program.
4. Commissioner Tyler asked if any parking spaces would be lost.
Staff stated one would be lost. Commissioner Tyler asked why
the conditions regarding grading were not eliminated. Senior
Engineer Steve Speer clarified the pad will be reworked and the
conditions are needed for that purpose. Condition #16 could be
eliminated. Commissioner Tyler questioned the caliper size of the
trees in Condition #30.A. Staff stated the Commission could
specify the tree height.
5. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Dave Israelsky stated he was available to
answer any questions.
6. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked if the applicant had any
objections to the conditions as written. Mr. Israelsky stated he did
not.
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7. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commission regarding this project. There being no further public
comment, Chairman Abels closed the public participation portion
of the hearing and opened the matter up for Commission
discussion.
8. Commissioner Tyler asked if the Sheriff's Department had an
issues with the plan. Staff stated the Sheriff's Department has
new personnel reviewing the plans and staff included only those
comments that pertained to this project.
9. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Tyler/Butler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-064 approving Site Development Permit 2002-
739, subject to findings and conditions as submitted.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman. Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
B. Site Development Permit 2002-738; a request of Affiliated Construction
for consideration of development plans for construction of a 4,500
square foot commercial office building located at the southeast corner of
Washington Street and Avenue 47.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if this was the theme of architecture for
all the buildings. Staff stated yes.
3. Commissioner Kirk asked if there would only be an exterior
stairwell. Staff stated yes, but there is an elevator. Commissioner
Kirk asked to see the architecture illustrated in the Specific Plan to
see the consistency.
4. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. John Vuksic, architect for the project, stated he
was available to answer any questions. In regard to the phasing,
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the building on Parcel 5 is owned by a different owner. Parcels 3
and 4 are owned by Affiliated Construction. He went on to
explain the phasing of the stairwells and the other buildings.
5. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion of the public hearing and opened the
matter for Commission discussion.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Butler/Kirk to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-065 approving Site Development Permit 2002-
738, as submitted.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
C. Certification of an Addendum to Environmental Assessment 99-389,
Specific Plan 99-040, and Tentative Tract Map 29323, Extension
#1/Amendment #1; a request of Cornerstone Development for
recommendation of Certification of an Addendum to an Environmental
Assessment, repeal of Specific Plan 99-040, and first extension of time
and an amendment request for a Tentative Tract Map for the property
located at the northwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Jefferson
Street.
1. Chairman Abels opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Robbins asked if the Specific Plan was being
eliminated. Staff stated that was one of the actions before the
Commission.
3. Commissioner Butler asked if this developer was responsible for
the Jefferson Street improvements. Senior Engineer Steve Speer
explained this portion of the improvements was part of the Phase
II Jefferson Street Improvements and will be funded for the Budget
Year 2005-06, and will be publically installed. The applicant will
be responsible for reimbursing the City for their portion of
Jefferson Street.
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4. Commissioner Robbins asked if the north side of Fred Waring Drive
would be widened. Staff noted there was a length of about half
a mile that would not be completed as it is in the County. Staff
also noted that Fred Waring Drive had been downsized to a four
lane Arterial.
5. Commissioner Tyler asked if the strip of land to the northeast of
this project was within the City limits. Community Development
Director Jerry Herman noted this piece and the right of way up to
Country Club Drive were in the City. Commissioner Tyler noted
that the water purveyors needed to be identified in the conditions
and asked that the stacking lane at the entrance be increased to
three cars.
6. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Abels asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Marvin
Roos, engineer for the project, stated they concurred with most of
the conditions. Some of the conditions they had issue with were:
Condition//23, rough grading, they would like to request 6 inches.
Condition //38, they would request 3/10's of a foot for the
perimeter and up to one, or two feet for the interior to allow them
to work with the utility companies.
7. Commissioner Robbins stated the grading plan would already have
these issues resolved. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated that in
this location there are elevations on a tentative map and staff is
asking them to live with the perimeter elevations very precisely.
Mr. Roos has noted that during the rough grading it is hard to pin
down the interior grading and that is why they are asking for
relief. Staff is allowing for this through the substantial compliance
review to alleviate any sensitive issues that may be there on this
project.
8. Mr. Roos asked about Condition //48 if it could be changed to
read, "...be retained in the required landscaped parkways and
required landscape setback..." Condition //65 clarification is
needed as to the distance. Condition //69 clarified to be Myoma
Dunes Water Company.
9. Commissioner Tyler asked if the 20,000 square foot lots would be
amenity lots. Mr. Roos stated they would be estate lots.
Commissioner Tyler stated he is very pleased with this new design
and the larger lots.
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10. Chairman Abels asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commission on this project.
11. Mr. Jay Steele, Kingston, stated his lot abuts this project and he
would like to know what will happen to the wall that separates
this project from the Bermuda Dunes Country Club to protect their
security. He also asked if the access on Fred Waring Drive would
be a right turn in only. Senior Engineer Steve Speer stated it
would be a right turn in and out and left turn in. Mr. Roos stated
they anticipate the phasing to be the south end first, and the wall
would be built in Phase I and the rest of the wall in Phase II.
12. Ms. Chris Clarke, Stamko Development Company, stated she
owns the triangular piece to the northeast of this project and she
is very concerned about the grading. In addition, she asked who
is paying for the Jefferson Street improvements. Senior Engineer
Steve Speer stated the improvements would be publically funded.
Ms. Clarke asked about the turning movement on Jefferson Street.
Staff stated three movements would be allowed. Staff stated that
in regard to the street improvements, staff has a hard time making
an applicant reimburse for streets that are installed. The policy
therefore, has been that if the street is installed prior to a project
submitting application, no reimbursement can be required unless
an assessment is done prior to the map. Community Development
Director Jerry Herman stated that if Ms. Clarke comes in with a
project before the City lets the contract out for Phase II of the
street improvements, she will be required to reimburse the City.
Ms. Clarke stated she is very interested in the wall and grades as
they are extreme in this area.
13. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation portion of the public hearing and opened the
matter for Commission discussion.
14. Commissioner Robbins stated this is a vast improvement over the
other project proposed for this site.
15. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Butler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-066 recommending certification of an Addendum
to Environmental Assessment 99-389, subject to the findings.
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ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
16. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Tyler to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2002-067 recommending repeal
of Specific Plan 99-040, subject to the findings.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
17. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Butler/Kirk to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2002-068, recommending
approval of Extension //1 for Tentative Tract Map 29323,
Amendment//1, subject to the findings
A. Condition //4: Add Myoma Water District.
B. Condition //23: Change to note all footings shall have a
minimum six inches of cover except where there is a slope
ratio greater than 2:1.
C. Condition //38: Change to "3/10's of a foot on the
perimeter and one foot on the interior."
D. Condition //48: add the words "required landscape
parkways or required landscaped setback."
E. Condition //59: Change to require three car stacking.
F. Condition //65: Add, "within professional standards."
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Butler, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Abels. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
Chairman Abels recessed the meeting at 8:41 p.m. and reconvened at 8:47 p.m.
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A Sign Application 2002-618; a request of Stamko Development Company
for review of a sign program for the Centre at La Quinta Retail Buildings
located on the south side of Highway 111, east of La Quinta Centre
Drive.
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1. Chairman Abels asked for the staff report. Community
Development Director Jerry Herman presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Kirk asked if the freestanding gas signs were
discussed before. Staff noted the sign program was part of the
Site Development Permit previously approved, but the applicant
withdrew their request at that time. Commissioner Kirk asked if
the City has ever approved a single use with this many signs.
Staff noted different projects and the number of signs for each
location.
3. Commissioner Tyler asked what staff was recommending for the
gas station. Staff stated no pricing on the canopy, or at the
corner of Highway 111. The requirement for gas pricing signs is
that they be visible from the adjoining streets. Commissioner
Tyler asked about the colors for the gas station. Staff stated they
would be as they appear on the example and similar to Walmart.
4. Commissioner Kirk asked for clarification on the amount of signage
for Retail Building "A". Staff stated 442 square feet is
recommended.
5. Commissioner Robbins stated the square footage does not agree
either. Staff clarified the number of signs and total square
footage.
6. Commissioner Kirk asked if the City ever approved signs that
indicated advertising for a tenant of this size. Staff stated no.
Commissioner Kirk asked if there was any legal issue. Assistant
City Attorney John Ramirez stated not usually in regard to
content. You usually address size. Potentially it could raise
issues. Commissioner Kirk asked if the Sign Ordinance stipulated
anything in regard to the specified use and not allowing
advertising. Discussion followed. Assistant City Attorney John
Ramirez stated that in regard to banning the slogan, he does not
have an answer at this time, except to say it will raise an issue
and is subject to challenge.
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7. Chairman Abels asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Ms Chris Clarke, Stamko Development Company,
gave a presentation on the sign program. In regard to staff's
recommendation, they would only like to request a gas pricing sign
closer to Highway 111. Mr. Bill Parrish, representing Walmart on
their signage, stated they have reduced the number of signs and
amount of footage. They agree with staff's recommendation on
the gas station sign, but would like to keep the logo portion on
each side as it is the corporate logo. Aisc, they would like to have
the second pricing sign off of Highway 111.
8. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked for clarification on the gas
station sign. Mr. Parrish stated he was requesting 40 square feet
and for the logo to be included in that figure. Staff had no
objections. Commissioner Tyler asked if the word "Always" was
considered part of Walmart's normal signage. Mr. Parrish noted
that for the expanded store, yes.
9. Commissioner Robbins clarified the expanded signage is 695
square feet. Mr. Parrish explained the request.
10. Commissioner Butler asked if the applicant's request for a second
monument gas pricing sign could be given. Staff stated it was at
the Commission's discretion. Mr. Parrish asked that for Phase I
they would like to have 481 square feet. The total square footage
is 695 square footage. Phase I would have 12 signs and Phase 2
would be reduced to seven signs.
11. There being no further public comment, Chairman Abels closed the
public participation and opened the matter for Commission
discussion.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to adopt Minute Motion 2002-011,
approving Sign Application 2002-618, as amended:
A. Phase I'. Would have a total of 12 signs, and up to 487
square feet.
B. Phase 2: The sign number will be reduced to a total of
seven signs, and up to 695 square feet.
C. Retail "A" as recommended.
D. Retail Shops as recommended.
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E. General Signage as recommended.
F. Gas Station: One price sign located at the corner of Auto
Center Drive and La Quinta Drive; a total of two signs for a
total of 80 square feet.
Unanimously approved.
B. Compatibility Review; a request of Jai Nettimi for review of a deck in the
rear yard of an existing two story home located at 79-390 Paseo Del
Rey.
1. Chairman Abels asked for the staff report. Community
Development Director Jerry Herman presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Abels asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Robbins stated it looks the same as a patio.
3. Commissioner Tyler asked if the adjoining property owners were
notified. Staff stated no, but the apPlicant did have the
homeowners' association approval.
4. There being no applicant present, Chairman Abels asked that the
matter be continued, the adjacent property owners notified, and
the applicant asked to address safety issues.
5. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Tyler/Robbins
move to continue the project to July 9, 2002, asking the applicant
to submit a drawing to scale and notify the adjoining neighbors.
Unanimously approved.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Chairman Abels gave a report on the City Council meeting of June 4,
2002.
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X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Robbins/Butler to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular
meeting of the Planning Commission to be held June 25, 2002, at 7:00 p.m. This
meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 9:45 p.m. on June 11, 2002.
Respectfully submitted,
---~-~e~y J~yer,~Execut~ve Secretary
City o[.L~ Quinta, California
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