2002 11 26 PC Minutes MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
November 26, 2002 7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Butler who lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Jacques Abels, Tom Kirk, Steve Robbins, Robert
Tyler, and Chairman Richard Butler.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Assistant
City Attorney John Ramirez, City Engineer Tim Jonasson, Assistant City
Engineer Steve Speer, Planning Manager Oscar Orci, Principal Planner
Fred Baker, Associate Engineer Eisa Paisley, Associate Planner Wallace
Nesbit, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Butler asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of
November 12, 2002. Commissioner Kirk noted that on Page 2, Item 5
under Roll Call, Commissioner Tyler's vote should show that he was in
favor of the project. There being no further corrections, it was moved
and seconded by Commissioners Abels/Tyler to approve the mi'nutes as
amended. Unanimously approved.
B. Department Report: None
V. PRESENTATIONS: None
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Environmental Assessment 2002-459, Specific Plan 87-011 Amendment
#4. Conditional Use Pemit 2002-072, Tentative Parcel Map 30903. and
Site Development Permit 2002-751: a request of Dale Frank and
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Associates/Washington 111, LTD, for: 1) certification of a Mitigated
Negative Declaration of environmental impact; 2) consideration of design
guidelines and development standards for a 488,050 square foot
commercial center; 3) consideration of a conditional use permit to allow
a health club over 50.62 square feet; 4) consideration of a tentative
parcel map to allow the subdivision of 50.71 acres into six parcels; and
5) Consideration of a site development permit to allow construction of
five commercial buildings for the property bounded by Highway 111 on
the north, Avenue 47 on the south, Washington Street on the West and
Adams Street on the east.
1. Chairman Butler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if La Quinta Center Drive is a public or
private street. Staff stated it is private and pointed out all the
access points.
3. Commissioner Kirk asked for clarification on the traffic assessment
portion of the Environmental Checklist. Environmental Consultant
Nicole Criste stated the traffic assessment looked at overall trips
and pass by trips are those trips that would be on Washington
Street regardless, and would stop in at the center. Commissioner
Kirk asked if a Transportation Demand Management (TDM) Plan
would be required. Staff stated it would be required. This is the
first project that has been conditioned to provide a TDM.
Commissioner Kirk asked what the use was for the drive through
on Shop 3. Staff stated at the present there is no specified use,
but they are talking to Starbucks. The drive through would be
approved as part of the Specific Plan.
4. Commissioner Robbins asked if the Champion Chevrolet building
and the building at the corner, comply with the height
requirements. Staff stated La Quinta Court does have buildings
that were approved in excess of the 22-foot height limitation.
Commissioner Robbins asked if a Big 5 Sporting Goods store had
not already been approved for the center across the street. Staff
stated they have decided to be in this project.
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5. Commissioner Tyler asked about Condition 7 of the Specific Plan
where the applicant is being asked to comply with a future General
Plan Amendment. He asked how the City can require the applicant
to meet a condition that is not in place at the time of approval.
Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer stated the current General
Plan identifies Washington Street as an eight lane roadway and
there is a potential to reduce that within a General Plan
Amendment. The applicant will be required to comply with
whichever General Plan requirement is in place at the time the
project is built. Commissioner Tyler asked the City Attorney if this
was possible. Assistant City Attorney John Ramirez stated he
was uncertain and would respond after reviewing the appropriate
document. Commissioner Tyler asked why the applicant was
being required to pay 50% of the signal at Adams Street and
Avenue 47 when it only has one quarter of the corner, or 25%.
Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer stated 50% has already been
paid for by the Auto Mall and there is no other developer who can
be charged, so the applicant has the burden of the remainder of
the cost.
6. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Butler asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Dale
Frank, applicant, gave a presentation on the project. In regard to
the General Plan Amendment he would dedicate six feet on
Washington Street so, if the City goes to four lanes, the land is
available with no utilities in the street.
7. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Abels asked about the proposed market
that would be in competition with the existing market. Mr. Frank
stated Jensons is a specialty market and the proposed Henry's is
a national company that is similar to a Trader Joes which is a
different product type.
8. Commissioner Robbins asked about the ancillary doors on the front
of the Target building. Mr. Frank stated the site plan is from the
Target corporation. Mr. Saeid Shantiyai, representing Target,
stated they are offices that need outdoor access. He went on to
explain the building design.
9. Commissioner Kirk stated the Target elevation seems to suffer
architecturally in comparison to the other parts of the center. By
itself it is a good design, but in comparison to the other buildings
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it falls short. Buildings 3 and 4 are very well done. The Target
needs some work between the entrance and the garden center.
The height of Target building is 35 feet and you are asking for
additional height on the other buildings. Mr. Frank stated
functionally they may need to raise the height. Commissioner Kirk
stated that giving more height may be a trade off for additional
facade. He would like to see ways to improve the facade design
on the Target building. Mr. Frank stated that the parking is sunken
which may raise the building. Commissioner Kirk asked about the
accesses on Avenue 47. Mr. Frank stated it was an error on the
plans and his architects will have to reconfigure the accesses.
Commissioner Kirk asked about the impact on the residents on the
south side of Avenue 47 in regard to circulation. Mr. Frank stated
they have considered the residents and believe they have taken
everything into consideration. Commissioner Kirk asked why the
landscaping was being phased. Mr. Shantiyai stated the
landscaping is colored only for affect, it is not a phasing plan. Mr.
Frank stated that as each building is built, the landscaping will be
complete for that entire portion of that site.
10. Commissioner Tyler noted that the landscaping looks great on
paper, but does not always translate into reality. He asked the
location of the loading dock. Mr. Frank noted the location on the
site plan. Mr. Shantiyai stated the plan is based on Target's
prototype. Commissioner Tyler asked about color variations on the
buildings. Mr. Shantiyai stated the color palette shows the colors
intended to be used.
11. Commissioner Abels stated he thought there should be a vestibule
on the front of the larger stores. Mr. Shantiyai stated they do
intend to use one.
12. Chairman Butler stated he is not in favor of a drive through in
association with a fast food. He noted the landscaping and
extensive trees, but in reality they do not reach any real growth.
Mr. Frank stated they are looking for larger trees to initially plant.
13. There being no further questions of the applicant, Chairman Butler
asked if there was any other public comment. Mr. Adam Zack,
Vice President of Jensons Food, stated they do not oppose the
project, but have an objection to Henry's. It is similar to their
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store. They are trying to build their store and there lease does
have exclusive uses. Besides bring competition to an existing
tenant, they believe it may violate their lease.
14. There being no further public participation, Chairman Butler closed
the public participation portion of the hearing and opened the
matter up for Commission discussion.
15. Commissioner Abels stated he thinks it is a great project and he
supports it.
16. Commissioner Tyler stated he agrees and asked if the health club
was an uncertainty. If the health club was not a known entity,
why process the conditional use permit. Community Development
Director Jerry Herman stated it gives the applicant the opportunity
to secure a health club owner.
17. Commissioner Kirk stated this is an outstanding project and he
likes the landscaping. Circulation issues are minor and could be
worked out with staff. His greatest concern is the Target building.
He thinks it would be appropriate for the building to be taller than
proposed and would suggest conditioning the building to be larger
and higher with landscaping enhanced along the front. There could
be some additional vertical relief as well as horizontal relief.
18. Commissioner Robbins stated that in this case he likes the rear of
the building more than the front. They need to do something with
the doors on the front of the building.
19. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Kirk/Abels to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-107 recommending certification of a Mitigated
Negative Declaration for Environmental Assessment 2002-459, as
recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler, and
Chairman Butler. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
20. It was moved and seconded by Commissioner Abels/Tyler to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2002-108 recommending
approval of Specific Plan 87-011 Amendment #4, subject to the
findings and conditions as amended.
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a. Condition //82: add after lighting plan, "including
illumination plan".
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
21. It was moved and seconded by Commissioner Abels/Robbins to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2002-109 recommending
approval of Conditional Use Permit 2002-072, subject to the
findings and conditions as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
22. It was moved and seconded by Commissioner Abels/Robbins to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2002-110 recommending
approval of Tentative Parcel Map 30903, subject to the findings
and conditions as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
23. It was moved and seconded by Commissioner Tyler/Kirk to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution 2002-111 recommending
approval of Site Development Permit 2002-751, subject to the
findings and conditions as amended.
a. Add a Condition that requires the Target building to have an
average vertical height of 35 feet and up to 40 feet and
work with staff to seek variation in color or materials on the
mid-section of the front facade.
b. A vestibule shall be added at the entrance.
c. Articulation shall be added around the doors on the front
elevation.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
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24. Commissioner Robbins/Kirk moved to reconsider the Specific Plan
Amendment. Unanimously approved.
25. It was moved by Chairman Butler and seconded by Commissioner
Abels to add a condition to the Specific Plan that no drive through
associated with a fast food stores shall be allowed. Unanimously
approved.
Chairman Butler recessed the meeting at 8:50 p.m. and reconvened at 8:57 p.m.
B. Village Use Permit 2002-015; a request of Prest Vuksic Architects for
consideration of development plans for construction of a 6,700 square
foot office building on a 0.4 acre parcel located at the northwest corner
of Calle Amigo and Desert Club Drive.
1. Commissioner Kirk excused himself due to a potential conflict of
interest due to proximity of the project to his residence, and left
the dais.
2. Chairman Butler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
3. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if the small sliver of land across from
Calle Amigo was buildable. Staff stated probably not as a
commercial building. Commissioner Tyler stated his concern was
that if it is not buildable, this facade would be seen from Avenue
52. Also, it appears the planter in the middle of the parking lot
could be eliminated to give more parking spaces. Staff stated they
are required to have two-way travel in the parking lot.
4. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Butler asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Dave
Prest, representing the applicant stated he was available to answer
any questions.
5. Commissioner Robbins asked how the applicant feels about the
suggestions of the Architecture and Landscaping Review
Committee. Mr. Prest stated they had no objections and had
offered to eliminate a parking space to create a gathering place for
the workers of the office building as they suggested.
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6. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked if the restrooms both have
access from the outside of the building and if so, he assumes they
would be controlled by access keys. Mr. Prest stated the idea is
to have fairly small offices and one common restroom for the
entire building instead of each office.
7. There being no further questions of the applicant, Chairman Butler
asked if there was any other public comment.
8. There being no further public participation, Chairman Butler closed
the public participation portion of the hearing and opened the
matter up for Commission discussion.
9. Commissioner Tyler questioned the need for the "gathering place".
10. Commissioner Robbins stated he did agree with idea as it does
make for a nicer place to work.
11. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Tyler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-112, approving Village Use Permit 2002-015,
subject to the conditions as recommended:
a. Condition #30: The gathering place shall be located on the
westernmost parking stall in front of the building entry.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Robbins, Tyler and Chairman
Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kirk.
ABSTAIN: None.
Commissioner Kirk rejoined the Commission.
C. Environmental Assessment 99-389 Addendum and Tentative Tract Map
29323. Amendment #2; a request of Cornerstone Development for
certification of an Addendum to Environmental Assessment 99-389 and
consideration of a second amendment to the tract map to add ten acres
and 32 residential lots to the original 117 acre site, located at the
northwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Jefferson Street.
1. Chairman Butler opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the
information c'ontained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
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2. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioners asked staff to explain the letter received from the
City of Indio. Staff stated the issues raised in their letter were
vague and staff was unable to reach anyone from the City of Indio
to obtain an explanation.
3. Commissioner Kirk asked staff if the developer on the east side of
the street, which is in the City of Indio, is not required to pay his
portion of the signal costs, would this developer be responsible for
the full amount of the signal, and if the developer in Indio pays
nothing, then this developer would pay nothing. Assistant City
Engineer Steve Speer responded that if the developer creates the
impact there is an argument that supports the concept of the
developer paying for 100% of the mitigation costs. Staff indicated
they would review the condition for an opportunity to clarify the
language.
4. Commissioner Robbins stated that since the east side is in the City
of Indio, La Quinta cannot require that developer to pay their
portion of the signal, and this developer would have to pay the
entire cost for the signal.
5. Commissioner Tyler asked if the utility lines would be
undergrounded. Staff stated they did not believe they would be.
No response was received from liD.
6. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Butler asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Marvin
Roos, Mainiero Smith and Associates, engineers for the project,
stated they are happy with the redesign, but would prefer to have
a right in-, right out rather than a signal. In addition, they would
like to request that four lots be removed from the list of approved
pad elevations. Lots 42, 43, 236, 237.
7. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked about the signal costs.
8. Mr. Allan Levin, representing Cornerstone, stated that in regard to
the traffic signal, they would be willing to accept limited access
instead of paying for the entire signal. The project across the
street does not have any requirement to pay any portion of the
signal and therefore, it puts the entire burden on them. In regard
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to the issue on compatibility, Ponderosa has already been
approved for their elevations. In order to approve the units for this
development, Ponderosa withdrew their approval and both are
before the Commission for review and approval. This way they
would not be in violation of the compatibility requirement. In
addition, staff has stipulated there can be nothing in the five yard
setback. He would like to ask for some latitude for access and air
conditioners, etc.
9. Mr. Joe SWain, Cornerstone Developers, stated that in regard to
the Biology report there is reference to contacting Fish and
Wildlife. Nothing was found in the study and US Fish and Wildlife
has transferred the responsibility to Fish and Game who has said
the only thing they would be concerned with would be the
vegetation. They are working on a mitigation with them.
10. There being no further questions of the applicant, and no other
public participation, Chairman Butler closed the public participation
portion of the hearing and opened the matter up for Commission
discussion.
11. Commissioners discussed whether or not to require the signal or
right-in, right-out. Staff recommended leaving the condition as
written.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Tyler/Robbins to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-113, recommending certification of an Addendum
to Environmental Assessment 99-389, as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
13. It was moved and seconded by Commissioner Kirk/Robbins to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2002-114 recommending
approval of Tentative Tract Map 29323 Amendment //2, subject
to the conditions as amended:
a. Condition 37: Delete Lots 42, 43, 236, 237
b. Condition //59.A.1 .: Change "reimbursement" to "cash fee"
c. Condition //70: change CVWD to Myoma Dunes
d. Condition //89: Appropriate wildlife agency
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ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Site Development Permit 2002-752; a request of Cornerstone
Developers/Ponderosa Homes for consideration of a residential tract
development with seven single family prototypes with three facade
treatments each, and landscaping design plans for the property located
on the northwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Jefferson Street,
within Tentative Tract 29323.
1. Chairman Butler asked for the staff report. Associate Planner
Wallace Nesbit presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked the location of the models. Staff
indicated their location on the site plan.
3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Butler asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Joe
Swain, representing the applicant, gave an explanation of the
models and their location.
4. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of the
applicant. Commissioner Tyler asked if the CC&R's would
eliminate the parking of RV's on the street. Mr. Swain stated this
would be included in the CC&R's.
5. There being no further questions of the applicant and no other
public participation, Chairman Butler closed the public participation
portion and opened the matter up for Commission discussion.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Robbins/Kirk to adopt Minute Motion 2002-018,
approving Site Development Permit 2002-752, subject to the
conditions as amended:
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a. Condition added: If there is an option for a third car
garage, it shall be conditioned to a 16 foot approach,
except on a cul-de-sac.
Unanimously approved.
B. Right of Wa.v Vacation 2002-011; a request of the Coral Mountain LLC,
for determination of General Plan consistency of the proposed 60-foot
wide street right of way vacation for that portion of Madison Street
between Avenue 58 and Avenue 60.
1. Chairman Butler asked for the staff report. Assistant City Engineer
Steve Speer presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked why they want to move the street.
Staff stated it is to improve their land plan. Commissioner Tyler
stated he would like to know the reason, before approving the
request.
3. Commissioner Robbins asked about all the utilities in Madison
Street; will they also be realigned. Staff stated this is the first
step in the process. The next step is for the City Council to adopt
a Resolution of Intent. During the process if utilities are found to
be in the street, they will be conditioned to relocated them.
4. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Butler asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Grady
Sparks, representing Coral Mountain, stated the reason for the
realignment is for land space and the type of developments they
are proposing. A lot of open space is needed or an additional 40-
45 acres. This gives a nice gentle sweep to break up the asphalt
jungle.
5. There being no further questions of the applicant and no public
comment, Chairman Butler closed the public participation portion
and opened the matter up for Commission discussion.
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6. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kirk/Robbins to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2002-115, making a
determination of General Plan consistency for Right of Way
Vacation 2002-011, as recommended:
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
C. Right of Way Vacation 2002-012; a request of the Louis Campagna, for
determination of General Plan consistency for the vacation of a portion
of Calle Tampico near Avenida Navarro.
1. Chairman Butler asked for the staff report. Assistant City Engineer
Steve Speer presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Chairman Butler asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Tyler asked if this vacation is approved, will the
vacated portion become a part of Lot 1. Staff stated it would.
3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Butler asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Louis
Campagana stated he was available to answer any questions.
4. There being no questions of the applicant and no other public
participation, Chairman Butler closed the public participation
portion and opened the matter up for Commission discussion.
5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Abels/Tyler to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2002-116, making a determination of General Plan
consistency for Right of Way Vacation 2002-01 2, as
recommended:
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Abels, Kirk, Robbins, Tyler and
Chairman Butler, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
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IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Commissioner Tyler gave a report on the City Council meeting of
November 19, 2002.
B. Commissioners asked staff to agendize a discussion of the Compatibility
Ordinance.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Abels/Kirk to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular
meeting of the Planning Commission to be held December 10, 2002, at 7:00 p.m.-
This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned 10:24 at p.m. on November
26, 2002.
Respectfully submitted,
~~/J,~. Exe~,~tive Secretary
City ofLt:a Quinta, California
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