2004 10 26 PC Minutes
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, Cf..
October 26, 2004
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Kirk who asked Assistant City Attorney Michael
Houston to lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Rick Daniels, Kay Ladner, Ken Krieger, Paul Quill,
and Chairman Tom Kirk.
C. Staff present: Oscar Orci, Interim Community Development Director,
Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston, Assistant City Engineer Steve
Speer, Principal Planner StanSawa, Associate Planners Wallace Nesbit,
and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of the
regular meeting of October 12, 2004. There being rio corrections, it was
moved and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Ladner to approve the
minutes as submitted.
Chairman Kirk asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of the
Special Joint Meeting of September 28, 2004.
corrections, it was moved and seconded by
Daniels/Ladner to approve the minutes as submitted.
There being no
Commissioners
B. Department Report.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Site Development Permit 2004-812; a request of Chick-Fil-A for
consideration of development plans and signs for a 4,694 gross square
foot restaurant with a drive through lane located on the north side of
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Highway 111, east of Adams Street within The Pavilion at La Quinta
project.
1 . Chairman Kirk opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Daniels asked if the plan complied with all Code
requirements. Staff stated yes.
3. Chairman Kirk asked if the master developer was providing all the
landscaping or just this section prior to development or the entire
landscape easement. Staff stated it is uncertain about the
landscaping, but if they are not doing the entire landscaping along
Highway 111, the portion in front of Chick-Fil-A will be required.
Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci noted the
problem the City has with previous street landscaping. Developers
have installed the entire length of the landscaping and it has not
been maintained in front of areas where shops have not been
developed. If the Commission determines it appropriate, this pad
would only be landscaped at this time.
4. Commissioner Daniels asked if the entire street improvements had
been completed for this section of Highway 111. Assistant City
Engineer Steve Speer stated they are working with Caltrans to
complete the improvements including the deceleration lane.
5. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Greg Lawless, representing Chick-Fil-A, stated
he concurred with the conditions and was available to answer any
questions. They do not intend to open till some of the other shops
in the Center open.
6. Chairman Kirk asked if there was any other public comment.
There being no further comment, the public participation pqrtionof
the hearing was closed and open for Commission discussion.
7. Commissioner Quill asked that the landscaping come back ~efore
the Commission. Interim Community Development Director Oscar
Orci stated Condition #58 directs staff to review the berming and
landscaping to be in compliance with the Highway 111 Design
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Guidelines. Commissioner Quill asked if there was a retaining wall.
Staff stated not at this location at this time. Commissioner Quill
asked that it be conditioned to have the retaining wall and the
berming to effectively screen the drive through. Staff stated
Condition #58 could be amended to include the berming and
retaining wall. Mr. Lawless stated they would prefer to see the
landscaping and berm rather than the wall as it becomes a
nuisance and continually has to be repaired.
8. Commissioner Ladner stated the wall creates a tunnel for the
exhaust to collect for those waiting. If the berming can provide
what they want then the wall is a duplication and not necessary.
9. Commissioner Krieger stated he agreed with Commissioner Ladner.
10. Commissioner Quill asked that the berm be not less than seven
feet. Mr. Lawless stated a wall at this height with the landscaping
will hide the entire building. Staff stated this will also cause
drainage problems.
11 . Chairman Kirk suggested it be conditioned to have the Commission
review the landscape plan to ensure the screening.
12. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Ladner/Daniels to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2004-081 approving Site
Development Permit 2004-081, as recommended by staff and
amended as follows:
a. Condition #58: Landscaping plans will be reviewed by the
Planning Commission. The plans shall show site line studies
from actual elevations from Highway 111 and the proposed
drive through lane.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Daniels, Ladner, Krieger, Quill and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
B. Site Development Permit 2004-816; a request of K. Hovnanian
Homes/Forecast Homes for consideration of architectural and landscaping
plans for three new single-family prototype residential units, each with
three different elevations, located at the northwest corner of Avenue 52
and Monroe Street within Tentative Tract Map 30092.
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1 . Chairman Kirk opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff~
Commissioner Daniels asked how many Bottlebrush trees they
were planting and if they knew how messy they can be. Staff
noted the Architecture and Landscape Review Committee (ALRC)
discussed the problems with the Chilean Mesquite trees, but did
not require their removal. If the Commission wants them removed
from the plant list, they can do so.
3. Chairman Kirk asked why staff was asking them not to hydroseed;
what options do they have? Staff stated it is the seed mix that is
objectionable. Staff will be asking Public Works to review the
seed mix for their approval.
4. Commissioner Quill noted the grade differential on the back of the
lots was up to four feet between the pads. Staff noted the
differential is normally not more than three feet. The grading plan
is in plan check currently and Public Works will review the grades.
Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci clarified that
Public Works will be reviewing the hydrology to see that it
complies with City standards.
5. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Steve Chaparro, K. Hovnanian Homes/Forecast
Homes, gave a presentation on the project.
6. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Quill asked about the seed mix. Mr. Chaparro noted
the comments made by the ALRC on the wildflower problems.
7. Chairman Kirk noted there was a lot of turf and if it met with the
City's Water Efficient Landscaping Ordinance. Mr. Chaparro
stated it is being reviewed by the City as well as CVWD and will
meet those requirements. Chairman Kirk asked if staff had seen
the calculations. Staff stated they have not seen the approved
plans by CVWD in order to review the calculations.
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8. Chairman Kirk asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commission on this matter. There being none, the public
participation portion of the hearing was closed and open for
Com.mission discussion.
9. Chairman Kirk stated the landscaping plans seem too lush and he
does not believe they will meet the City's Ordinance. Staff noted
the applicant must meet the allowance stated in the Ordinance.
The Ordinance does allow them to mix and combine areas to reach
those quotas. Discussion followed regarding the landscaping plan.
10. Chairman Kirk reopened the public hearing and askedMr. Chaparro
if he had any objection to bringing the landscaping plan back to the
Commission. Mr. Chaparro stated he would prefer to have staff
approval if they meet the Ordinance.
11 . Commissioner Quill asked if the City had an outside consultant
who could review the plant matedal and could give advice. Staff
noted the ALRC has members who are proficient with land$caping
terms and species and this is part of their review process.
12. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Quill/Daniels to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2004-082, approving Site
Development Permit 2004-816, as recommended by staff and
amended as follows:
a. Condition added: The final landscaping plan shall be
reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission prior to
a Certificate of Occupancy.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Daniels, Ladner, Krieger, Quill, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None
VI. BUSINESS ITEMS: None
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
VIII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Commissioner Quill asked that discussion be agendized regarding the
hiring of a horticulturalist to address plant material, their growth pattern,
etc. Second, he would like to have agendized a discussion regarding
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putting together a container storage ordinance. He would like to see
them put together in a very tasteful manner. Assistant City Attorney
Michael Houston clarified that Wal-Mart would not be coming back before
the Commission as it was appealed to the City Council by the applicant.
Discussion followed regarding the action and alternatives presented to
the Council regarding the appeal. Staff was directed to agendize the two
items.
B. , Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci asked the status of
the Commissioners attendance at council meeting. Staff would see that
the Commissioners receive the schedule in the next packet.
IX. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Krieger/Quill to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a regular
meeting of the Planning Commission to be held on November 9, 2004, at 7:00 p.m.
This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 8:09 p.m., on October 26,
2004.
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