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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
. 78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
October 25, 2005
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7 :00
p.m. by Chairman Kirk who lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Ed Alderson, Richard Daniels, Paul Quill and
Chairman Kirk. It was moved and seconded by Commissioner
Daniels/Quill to excuse Commissioner Ladner. Unanimously approved.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Doug Evans, City
Attorney Kathy Jenson, Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer, Planning
Manager Les Johnson, Associate Engineer Paul Goble, Associate Planner
Wallace Nesbit, Assistant Planner Jay Wuu, and Executive Secretary
Betty Sawyer
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PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of
October 11, 2005. There being no changes to the minutes, it was moved
and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Quill to approve the minutes as
corrected.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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Site Development Permit 2003-780, Extension No. 1 and Site
Development Permit 2003-781, Extension No.1; a request of Kleine
Building and Development for consideration of one year extensions of
time for construction of two office buildings, for the properties located at
79-215 and 79-245 Corporate Centre Drive; southeast corner of
Corporate Centre Drive and Cqmmerce Court within the La Quinta
Corporate Centre Specific Plan.
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1. Chairman Kirk opened the public hearing and asked for the" staff
report. Assistant Planner Jay Wuu presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
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2. Chairman Kirk asked if there vvere any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked if staff knew the reason they were
asking for the extension. Staff stated it was not stated.
3. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Bob Maniero, representing the applicant, stated
the extension was needed as the owner has been focusing on a
different phase of the development and is now ready for this
project.
4. Chairman Kirk asked if there was any other public comment.
There being none, the public participation portion of the hearing
was closed and open for Commission discussion.
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There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Daniels/Quill to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2005-050 approving Site Development Permit 2003-
780, Extension #1, as recommended.
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6. Chairman Kirk noted that if the City had adopted design guidelines
for Highway 111 this building would have been reviewed
differently and brought to a higher standard.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Daniels, Quill, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner
Ladner. ABSTAIN: None.
7. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Alderson to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2005-051 approving Site
Development Permit 2003-781, Extension #1, as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Daniels, Quill, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner
Ladner. ABSTAIN: None.
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Site Development Permit 2005-843; a request of East of Madison LLC for
consideration of architectural plans and landscaping plans for a
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maintenance complex for the property located at the northwest corner of
Monroe Street and Avenue 54, within the Madison Club.
1 . Chairman Kirk opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Planning Manager Les Johnson presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which was on file in the
Community Development Department
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Daniels asked if this was the original location of the
building. Community Development Director Doug Evans stated it
is the location shown on the subdivision map. Commissioner
Daniels asked if staff had considered buffering whether or not the
noise should be buffered. Staff noted the amount of landscaping
and berming to reduce any noise.
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Commissioner Alderson asked if the plants listed on the landscape
list would require high water usage. Also, there needs to be
assurance that there will be no ground contamination from the
fertilizers that could be percolated into an adjacent working well.
He would like to know how they plan to handle this.
4. . Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Daniels asked the necessity to have the doors on
both sides of the building. Commissioner Quill stated that on this
site, it is a necessity of the use.
5. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Ms. Cindy Zamora, representing the applicant,
stated she did not know the specific on the containers, but will
ensure they will not be a hazard. They would work it out with
staff. Ms. Zamora stated they would like to delete Condition No.
33. Community Developer Director Doug Evans stated this project
is designed so no structure can be seen off- or on-site except for a
window at a gate. One foot of the canopies can be see from this
one elevation and it is staff's belief the canopies can be lowered
one foot.
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Chairman Kirk asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commissioner. There being none, Chairman Kirk closed the public
hearing.
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7. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Alderson/Daniels to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2005-052 approving Site
Development Permit 2005-843, as amended.
a. Condition added: Applicant shall work with staff to ensure
there is no ground water contamination.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Daniels, Quill, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner
Ladner. ABSTAIN: None.
C. Environmental Assessment 2005-537 and Tentative Tract Map 33085; a
request of Core Homes, LLC for consideration of: 1) Certification of a
Mitigated Negative Declaration of environmental impact; and 2) the
subdivision of 4.3 acres into seven single-family lots for the property
located at the southwest corner of Madison Street and Beth Circle, north
of Avenue 52.
1.
Chairman Kirk opened th~ public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which was on
file in the Community Development Department. Staff noted
Condition No. 71 was modified to state south and west property
lines.
2. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked if the entire site drains into the
retention basin. Staff stated that is correct, the southeast corner
of the site. Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer stated there is no
storm drain to take the water off-site.
3. Commissioner Daniels asked what the plotting pattern was to the
south and should the street go through to the property to the
south. Staff stated the property to the south is owned by Mr.
Robert Smith. There is another ten acre tract, Tract 31852, to the
south that has been approved.
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Commissioner Quill asked if the intent was to leave the trees in
place. Staff stated there will be some relocation to accommodate
design and grading, but as many as possible are recommended to
stay where they are.
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5. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant wanted a narrower road,
would staff support it. Assistant City Engineer Steve Speer stated
the applicant has not asked for a narrow width; staff has allowed
28 feet between the flow line with no parking on the street.
Chairman Kirk stated he did not believe foliage did anything to
alleviate noise. Staff stated it may not provide much of a noise
buffer, but it does add to the aesthetics. Chairman Kirk stated
that all the exhibits he has shows the trees on the inside of the
wall. Staff stated they are conditioned to provide a 20-foot
landscaping strip along the street.
6. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. David Turner, Coachella Valley Engineers,
representing the applicant, stated the drawing is conceptual. They
intend to match the property to the north with trees and
landscaping along the street. In regard to the property to the
south, they would take their access off Madison Street.
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Commissioner Daniels asked if that property would be a cul-de-sac
by itself entering off Madison Street. Mr. Turner stated it would
depend on how the applicant chose to design the tract. He then
went on to explain the drainage of the site.
8. Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Quill asked the purpose of the easement around the
site. Mr. Turner stated it is a drainage easement. Commissioner
Quill asked if the footprint on the plans was the footprint of the
actual homes, or is this just typical. Mr. Turner stated they are
conceptual. Commissioner Quill asked if more trees could be
retained. Mr. Turner stated it is the intent to retain as many as
possible.
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Chairman Kirk asked the applicant to explain the street planting.
Mr. Turner stated initially there will be two rows of trees outside
the wall and when Madison Street is fully developed at least one
row of trees would remain with a meandering sidewalk. Assistant
City Engineer Steve Speer stated the east half of the street is
within the City of Indio. Madison Street is a Primary Arterial with
a median. The City has rehabilitated their portion of Madison
Street and there are no plans for any further development of the
street at this time. Fees are being collected for when it is
constructed.
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10. Chairman Kirk asked if anyone else would like to address the
Commissioner . Mr. Robert Smith, 51-425 Madison Street,
immediate southerly property owner, stated his concern with the
half acre lots of this project. He requested it be kept consistent
with what is developed. He has no other issues.
11 . Commissioner Quill asked if there were any other subdivisions
proposed in this area that are less than two acres. Assistant City
Engineer Steve Speer stated that on the northwest corner of
Avenue 52 and Madison Street there is a tract approved with
approximately 14 lots on 8.5 acre site.
12. Mr. Turner stated that in regard to density they believe the half
acre lot size proposed is a good blend.
13. There being no further public comment, Chairman Kirk closed the
public hearing and opened to Commission discussion.
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14. Commissioner Daniels stated he had no problem with the half acre
lots.
15. Commissioner Quill asked if this property was in the equestrian
overlay zone. Staff stated yes, it is so zoned.
16. Chairman Kirk asked if this was the maximum number of lots that
would be allowed. Staff stated the site is 4.3 acres so it could
have 8.6 lots maximum. Chairman Kirk stated he is struggling
with approving the higher density in a rural area.
17. Commissioner Alderson stated that given the configuration of the
lots and access, he has no problem with the project as designed.
18. Commissioner Quill asked how many lots were being developed to
the north. Staff stated there are two tracts approved to the north
that are one acre lots and the drainage is contained on the
individual lots. Commissioner Quill stated he thought that in this
location, the lots should be one acre.
19. Chairman Kirk asked staff what their options were. Community I
Development Director Doug Evans explained they could approve,
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deny or request the applicant to remove the application from the
calendar and allow them to redesign the project. City Attorney
Kathy Jenson clarified that should they determine to deny the
project, the application should be continued to allow staff to draft
a resolution with findings for denial. Should the Commission vote
and there is a tie vote, the project would automatically be
continued to the next meeting.
20. Chairman Kirk reopened the public hearing.
21 . Mr. David Neale, owner of the property, stated they have made
every effort to bring a project to the City that they can be proud
of. He has met with the adjoining property owners to make them
aware of his project. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would
prefer to have a continuance or denial. Mr. Neale asked what his
rights would be should he receive a negative vote. City Attorney
Kathy Jenson stated he would have a right of appeal to the City
Council. Community Development Director Doug Evans asked that
staff have an opportunity to speak with the applicant and bring
this application back to the Commission in two weeks. Mr. Neale
stated that if it is for less lots, he would prefer to have a vote at
this time.
22. Commissioner Alderson asked how many lots could they design
and have on-site drainage. Staff stated one-acre sites are the
minimum to retain on site to get the retention needed.
23. Commissioner Daniels stated he supports the project as
recommended by staff. Although the project to the north is one
acre lots and this project has half acre lots, he does not see the
reasoning for requiring this project to be one acre lots.
24. Chairman Kirk closed the public participation portion of the
hearing. City Attorney Kathy Jenson recommended the
Commission not close the public portion and allow testimony at
the next meeting. Chairman Kirk reopened the public hearing.
25. Following discussion,· it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Daniels/Quill to continue the project to November
8, 2005. Staff to prepare a resolution with alternative findings for
denial. Unanimously approved.
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Chairman Kirk recessed the meting at 8:23 p.m. and reconvened the
meeting at 8:33 p.m.
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C. Specific Plan 2002-062 Amendment #1, and Tentative Parcel Map
33908; a request of Regency Marinita-La Quinta, LLC for consideration of
amendments to the Specific Plan for a neighborhood shopping center to
include a supermarket, drug store, and additional retail with a maximum
building height of 35 feet. The amendments are sought to change the
site plan to relocate the drug store site and amend certain design
standards, including reducing certain landscape setbacks from 15 to five
feet adjacent to Monticello park, and to subdivide the 10.6 acre site into
seven commercial parcels for the property. located at the southwest
corner of Jefferson Street and Fred Waring Drive.
1 . Chairman Kirk opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Consulting Planner Nicole Criste presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which was on file in the
Community Development Department.
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Chairman Kirk asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Daniels clarified the zoning for Neighborhood
Commercial does not allow for a drive-thru as well as the Specific
Plan. Ms. Criste stated that is correct in regard to the zoning.
There is an allowance for restaurants and drive-thrus in the
Specific Plan, but there is not a clear allowance that they come
together.
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3. Commissioner Alderson asked how staff determined the gas
station would not be constructed. Staff stated it is up to the
grocery store as to whether or not it would be constructed.
4. Commissioner Quill asked if the bank liB" building condition
restricting any fast food was amenable. Staff stated it would
eliminate the concern regarding the noise levels for 24-hours
service.
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Commissioner Alderson asked which pads could have fast food.
Staff noted Bank A and Bank B are called out specifically. With an
allowance for fast food, PadC could have fast food, but it is not
called out at this time.
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6. Commissioner Quill asked if there was any phasing of the project.
Staff stated the parcels could· be developed individually within the
limits of the Specific Plan. Commissioner Quill asked if there was
a drug store under construction across the street. Staff stated it is
approved and under construction. Community Development
Director Doug Evans stated drive-thru restaurants are a prohibited
use in a Neighborhood Commercial zone and staff would not
recommend approving any specific plan allowing a use that the
underlying zoning specifically does not approve.
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Chairman Kirk asked for clarification. Staff stated the Specific
Plan did not originally contain drive-thru restaurants. Chairman
Kirk stated that he understood a specific plan could be used to
allow a use that is prohibited. Community Development Director
Doug Evans stated it was his understanding that it was allowed
with the submittal of a conditional use permit and that was not the
case. City Attorney Kathy Jenson stated the zoning is not being
changed. Normally, a specific plan is used to deviate from some
development standard; it is not used to allow a use that is
prohibited in the underlying zoning.
8. Chairman Kirk asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Mr. Paul Dubey, representing the applicant, stated
they are not looking for approval of any -drive-thru restaurant.
Both pads are anticipated to - be banks with drive-thru A TM
machines. He went on to give a presentation on the project. Mr.
James Cary, architect for the projec~ gave a presentation on the
project design. Staff asked that Condition. No. 10 be deleted and
Condition No. 14 be amended to read, "The retail uses on-site will
operate from 6:00 a.m.-to 12:00 a.m. Monday through Sunday.
All uses in Shop 1 and Pad C shall operate from 6:00 a.m. to
12:00 a.m. Monday through Sunday." The next sentence shall be
deleted. "The market drug store, bank A TM machines, and fueling
station would be open 24-hours seven days a week." II All
references to drive-thrus shall be removed from the Specific Plan."
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There being no questions of the applicant, Chairman Kirk asked if
there was any other public comment. Mr. Byron Woosley, 43-502
Torphin Hills, Indio, representing the HOA for Heritage Palms,
asked that his e-mail be made a part of the minutes for this
hearing.
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10. Commissioner Quill asked how they intended to phase the project.
Mr. Dubey stated they do not intend to phase the project.
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11 . Commissioner Alderson asked if the fueling station were to be
constructed, would the lighting be reduced. Mr. Dubey stated it
would be required to file a Conditional Use Permit and it could be
regulated at this time. Commissioner Alderson asked the height of
the Pad C, Shop 1. Mr. Cary stated it is 20 feet with a 22 foot
tower and there will be an eight foot high masonry wall along the
perimeter.
12. Commissioner Quill asked if the site gradually went lower the
further you went back. Mr. Keith Gregori, stated the grade
difference changes the farther you go back into the project.
13. There being no further public comment, the public participation
portion was closed and open for Commission discussion.
14. It was moved by Commissioners Quill/Daniels to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 2005-053, recommending to the City I
Council approval of Specific Plan 2002-062, Amendment #1, as
amended:
a. Condition No.1 0: deleted
b. Condition No. 14: amended to read, "The retail uses on-site
will operate from 6:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m. Monday through
Sunday. All uses in Shop 1 and Pad C shall operate from
6:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m. Monday through Sunday." The
next sentence shall be deleted. "The market drug store,
bank ARM machines, and fueling station would be open 24-
houses seven days a week."
c. Condition added: "All references to drive-thru restaurants
shall be removed from the Specific Plan."
d. Condition 11 modified to read, "The average width of
landscaping along the west property line shall be 7.6 feet
instead of eight feet."
ROLL CALL: A YES:Commissioners Alderson, Daniels, Quill, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner
Ladner. ABSTAIN: None.
15. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Quill Daniels to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2005-056, recommending
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to the City Council approval of Tentative Parcel Map 33085, as
amended:
a. Condition No. 45: amended to add U ...as approved by the
City Engineer."
ROLL CALL: A YES:Commissioners Alderson, Daniels, Quill, and
Chairman Kirk. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner
Ladner. ABSTAIN: None.
VI. BUSINESS ITEMS: None.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Review of City Council meeting of October 18, 2005.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Daniels/Alderson to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a
regular meeting of the Planning Commission to be held on November 8, 2005, at 7:00
p.m. This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 9:21 p.m. on October
25, 2005.
Respectfully submitted,
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Be ty awyer, Executive Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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