2006 11 14 PC Minutes
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
November 14, 2006
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was reconvened at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Quill who asked Mr. Chuck Shephardson to lead the
flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Ed Alderson, Katie Barrows, and Chairman
Paul Quill. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Barrows/Alderson to excuse Commissioners Daniels and Engle.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Doug Evans,
Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston, Planning Manager Les
Johnson, Development Services Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer,
Principal Planner Stan Sawa, Associate Planner Andrew Mogensen,
Assistant Planners Jay Wuu and Eric Ceja, and Executive Secretary
Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Quill asked if there were any corrections to the
minutes of October 24, 2006. There being none, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Alderson/Barrows to approve the minutes
as submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS: None.
A. Sign Application 2006-1015; a request of PrestIVuksic Architects for
consideration of a Sign Program to serve Caleo Bay, for the property
located on the west side of Caleo Bay, north of Avenue 48.
1. Chairman Quill reopened the public hearing and asked for the
staff report. Assistant Planner Eric Ceja presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on
file in the Community Development Department.
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2. Chairman Quill asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked if the sign approval was for
location and size restrictions and not for particular tenants.
Staff stated yes.
3. Commissioner Barrows asked if the landscaping lighting would
remain on all night. Staff stated no, it would be turned off at
10:00 p.m. Staff has recommended the signage be off at 9:00
p.m. and landscaping lighting be turned off at 10:00 p.m.
4. Commissioner Alderson asked if the revised sign program
submitted by the applicant at this meeting, had any major
changes to the program they received in their packet. Staff
explained the changes being proposed by the applicant.
5. Chairman Quill asked about the parking lot lighting. Staff stated
the landscape lighting included the parking lot lighting.
Chairman Quill asked if public safety had any concerns. Staff
stated no comments had been received.
6. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr.
John Vuksick, representing the applicant, gave a presentation
on the program and reviewed the revisions they were proposing.
7. Commissioner Alderson asked if the applicant had any
objections to the conditions. Mr. Vuksick stated yes.
8. Chairman Quill asked if they were objecting to the parking lot
lights being turned off. Mr. Vuksick stated they did not
consider parking lot lighting, by itself, in regard to when they
would be turned off. It is their understanding that only the
landscaping and signage lighting would be turned off.
9. Chairman Quill asked if there was any other public comment.
Mr. Bill Ivy, 78-655 Descanso Lane, representing Rancho La
Quinta Homeowners' Association (HOAI, thanked the applicant
for working with them in regard to this application. In regard to
the parking lot lighting, they would like the same type of
lighting as what is installed at Walgreens. They agree with the
sign program as submitted.
10. There being no further public comment, Chairman Quill closed
the public participation portion of the hearing.
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11 . Commissioner Alderson stated the address numbers on the
building are the same color as the building making it difficult to
read. There should be a contrast between the two.
12. Chairman Quill asked staff to verify the parking lot lighting was
approved under the original approval for the center. Staff
confirmed.
13. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Barrows/Alderson to adopt Minute Motion
2006-027 approving Sign Application 2006-1015, as
recommended and amended:
a. Condition added: the revised sign program submitted by
the applicant was approved.
Unanimously approved.
B. Site Development Permit 2006-876; a request of Trans West Housing,
Inc. for consideration of typical landscaping plans for residential
production units within Griffin Ranch located within proposed
Tentative Tract Map 32879 and 34642, south of Avenue 54, east of
Madison Street, west of Monroe Street, and north of the Greg Norman
Course.
1 . Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Associate Planner Andrew Mogensen presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on
file in the Community Development Department.
2. There being no questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked if the
applicant would like to address the Commission. Ms. Marty
Butler, representing the applicant, introduced Mr. Chuck
Shepardson, landscape architect, who stated they agreed with
staff's recommendations and were available to answer any
questions. Mr. Shepardson explained they were not providing
landscape options for the property owners in order to retain
continuity throughout the development.
3. Commissioner Alderson asked if the equestrian trail landscaping
would be different. Mr. Shepardson stated no, it would just
have less turf.
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4. Commissioner Barrows asked if the sprinkler heads would be set
back from the road. Mr. Shepardson stated yes, 18-inches.
Commissioner Barrows asked if there was a design to have turf
next to the house. Mr. Shepardson stated it is not a preferred
design due to problems that have come up.
5. Chairman Quill asked if there was curb and gutter. Mr.
Shepardson stated there is a rolled curb.
6. Commissioner Alderson asked if the HOA could override the
applicant in regard to the landscaping. Ms. Butler stated they
are the HOA and the CC&R's will dictate the design.
7. Chairman Quill asked if there was any other public comment.
There being none, the public participation portion of the public
hearing was closed and open for Commission discussion.
8. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Alderson/Barrows to adopt Minute Motion
2006-028 approving Site Development Permit 2006-876, as
recommended.
Unanimously approved.
C. Conditional Use Permit 2006-101; a request of La Quinta Playhouse
for consideration of temporary structures to conduct seasonal live play
productions, for the property located at 78-059 Calle Estado; between
Desert Club Drive and Avenida Bermudas.
1 . Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Assistant Planner Jay Wuu presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Quill asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked staff to explain the conflict
between the Temporary Use Permit and Conditional Use Permit.
Staff explained the reasoning for both permits.
3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Reg
Sentell, representing the La Quinta Playhouse, gave a
presentation on the project. He requested that when the
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season terminates they have seven days to remove the tent and
bring the lot back to its original condition. They are requesting
14 days instead of the seven required in the conditions.
Second request is that the "crowd pleaser" portable toilets were
unattainable and they are looking for other sources, therefore,
they are requesting to be allowed to use the standard toilets
until such time as they find a different source. Lastly, they are
questioning whether or not they should have a re-inspection of
the property and tent. Planning Manager Les Johnson stated
the Building and Safety Department will not be requiring any for
this season, but the Community Development Department may
in regard to the aesthetics to all of the conditions. Mr. Sentell
stated they would ask for the Fire Department to make a final
inspection. They would also like to ask for Commission
approval to install lattice work with a small gate to soften the
look between the tent and the trailer. On the other side of the
tent they would like to install a staggered lattice panel wall to
soften this side as well.
4. Chairman Quill asked if there was any other public comment.
There being none, the public participation portion of the public
hearing was closed and open for Commission discussion.
5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Barrows/Alderson to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 2006-040 approving Conditional Use
Permit 2006-101, as recommended and amended:
a. Condition 24: Modified to 14 days
b. Condition added: Additional lattice screening shall be
allowed as requested by the applicant
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Barrows, and Chairman
Quill. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Daniels
and Engle. ABSTAIN: None.
D. Site Development Permit 2006-870; a request of Craftsmen Homes
for consideration of architectural and landscaping plans for three
prototypical residential plan types for use in Tract 32751 located on
the west side of Jefferson Street, south side of Pomelo in the Citrus
Course project.
1 . Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
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contained in the staff report, "a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Quill asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked if the casitas units in conjunction
with the two-story homes will violate the height limitations.
Staff stated they are subject to the 22-foot height limits and the
two-story units will need to be placed on the lots furthest to the
west. The lots adjacent to Jefferson Street are subject to the
height limit.
3. Commissioner Barrows asked about the Architecture and
Landscape Review Committee (ALRCl condition for a no-turf
option for landscaping if the Homeowners' Association (HOAl
will not allow it. Staff stated the HOA has stated they will not
allow the no turf option, but staff left the condition in, however
if the HOA CC&R's do not allow it and the HOA wants to
enforce it, it was their option. The City would leave the
condition.
4. Chairman Quill asked if the HOA was asked about the no-turf
requirement. Staff stated the HOA was present and could
answer this question.
5. Commissioner Alderson noted there were several different
finishes to the landscape and hardscape as noted on the
elevations; were these actually going to be constructed or was
it artistic license. Staff stated the applicant would need to
answer these questions.
6. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked
if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr.
Scott Shaddix representing Craftsman Homes, stated the
landscaping plans will have the artistic designs as noted on the
plans. In regard to the casita units, it is an option to the
property owner. They also want to allow landscape options to
the property owners. In regard to the wall, it was originally
required to be straightened, but through the process of working
wit the different agencies they resolved the issues for the fire
access. To resolve these issues they made the fire access
within the project and the retention basins are a major part of
the overall development. In order to move forward with the
tract, the retention basins design is a major improvement for the
entire community. To maintain this position the retention
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basins need to remain as designed. This requires the wall to
remain as it is currently constructed. This is also the desire of
the HOA. Another condition is the requirement for an additional
noise analysis to ensure the wall height meets to comply with
outdoor noise requirements. This was not in the original
conditions they reviewed. In regard to the wall, it was their
understanding that moving the wall does not allow the safety
factor they need for the design. The staff reports states moving
the wall is not a major issue. To them it is; it is a safety factor
to them. Lastly, Attachment 3, paragraph 2 of the staff report,
it was his understanding they could work with the City to allow
for the wall relocation to be an administrative issue. Now, the
report states it must be straightened out.
7. Commissioner Barrows asked staff to clarify where the
conditions were in regard to the wall. Staff stated the wall
condition the applicant is referring to is part of the original
tentative tract map approval. The Commission has no ability to
change that at this time. The applicant can apply to change the
conditions to the tract map if they chose to.
8. Chairman Quill stated the wall is inside the right-of-way of the
existing Jefferson Street landscaping. Community Development
Director Doug Evans stated the intent of the condition is to
validate that the existing wall, as old as it is, will provide
enough sound attenuation to comply with State law. If the
units do not meet the criteria, and the property owners will be
asking the City to build the wall the applicant should have built.
It is a mitigation measure. It is not something that staff would
or could adjust. Mr. Shaddix stated his request was for that
portion of the wall that jets out only. It is also his
understanding that this portion of the wall was under the
ownership of the HOA. Community Development Director Doug
Evans stated the original condition was discussed at the original
public hearings for approval of the tentative tract map.
9. Chairman Quill stated the City will make sure that the wall
meets the noise condition and the need for the wall to jet out
no longer exists.
10. Chairman Quill asked if there was any other public comment.
Mr. Robert Crowell, 79-890 Citrus Street, current President of
HOA, for the Citrus Course, stated that in regard to the wall
relocation, he does not understand why there is a need to move
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it. It is his understanding that the applicant will need to do a
noise study to determine noise levels. Why does that affect the
moving of the wall? Chairman Quill stated one concern is the
aesthetics and the setbacks the City wants along its Arterial
streets. It is the City's desire to have a parkway that is
consistent with the remainder Jefferson Street. Community
Development Director Doug Evans stated it is a community
design standards, and it was debated during the public hearing
when the tract was approved and decided it should be moved
back. Chairman Quill stated the retention basin is in a position
that it could drain into the street if it exceeds its design
capacity. Development Services Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer
stated that in discussions with the applicant's engineer for the
project, he stated the retention could comply, it would just
require a redesign. Mr. Crowell stated the HOA objected was
because the landscaping did not comply with the architectural
standards for Citrus Course. Having turf would be consistent
with the rest of the community. They went to CVWD and they
stated that since there was a grandfather condition, they would
allow limited turf. Chairman Quill asked if anyone came to the
HOA requesting front yard desert landscaping they would be
denied. Mr. Crowell stated they would deny the request.
11. Mr. Cary Smith 50-965 Mandarina, stated this developer has
done a very good job on this project to date. However, in his
opinion not enough attention has been given to the traffic
impact to Mandarina. He would request the City take a look at
the traffic concerns that these 49 homes will create on this
street.
12. Mr. Mark Mandella, 51-055 Mandarina, stated he concurred
with Mr. Smith's concern. This area was originally to be a golf
hole. The traffic will be an awkward as well as dangerous. In
addition, he does not understand the house plans with the
granny flat do not qualify for a two-story home. This is
inconsistent with every home in the Citrus.
13. Mr. Scott Shaddix stated that if you review the plans you will
see that the plan is not a two-story unit.
14. There being no further public comment, the public participation
portion of the public hearing was closed and open for
Commission discussion.
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15. Commissioner Alderson stated the traffic concerns would have
been debated during the tract map approval. Staff stated that
was correct. In regard to the casitas unit, it is only an option.
Staff noted they are allowed to have this design.
16. Commissioner Barrows stated she was unsure why we were
requiring a no turf option that will have no validity. Staff stated
the applicant will have to accept the condition if it is placed on
the project.
17. Chairman Quill asked for clarification on the roof tile; is it a two
piece mudded or clay tile. Staff stated it is a one-piece mudded
clay tile.
18. Chairman Quill reopened the public hearing. Mr. Shaddix stated
there will be five different landscape plans. These plans were
worked out with the HOA and CVWD to have symmetry and
balance. He is not sure a no turf option can be used.
19. Chairman Barrows stated that in the City's standards it is a
requirement and an important consideration of the City and
Valley as well.
20. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Barrows/Alderson to adopt Minute Motion
2006-029 approving Site Development Permit 2006-870, as
recommended.
Unanimously approved.
E. Right-of-Way Vacation 2006-014 and Street Vacation 2006-042; a
request of East of Madison, LLC for a report of finding under California
Government Code Section 65402 that the proposed Right-of-
Way/Street Vacation of a :l: 3, 117-foot length of Avenue 53 is
consistent with the General Plan.
1 . Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Development Services Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer
presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy
of which is on file in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Quill asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked if the remainder piece would
remain to service the adjacent community. Staff stated the
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remainder will remain a public street and the Carmella
development will take access off of it. This is an approval
needed for the applicant to go ahead with their tract approval.
3. Chairman Quill asked if there was any other public comment.
There being none, the public participation portion of the public
hearing was closed and open for Commission discussion.
. 4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Barrows/Alderson to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 2006-041 approving Right-of-Way
Vacation 2006-014 and Street Vacation 2006-042, as
recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson,
Quill. NOES: None. ABSENT:
and Engle. ABSTAIN: None.
Barrows, and Chairman
Commissioner Daniels
F. Zoning Code Amendment 2006-088; a request of the City for
consideration of an Amendment to Chapter 9, Section 9.140.080-
Supplemental Regulations of the La Quinta Municipal Code regulating
the development and usage of future condominium hotel units in
Tourist Commercial Districts.
1 . Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Community DevelOPment Director Doug Evans
presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy
of which is on file in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Quill asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Alderson asked if other cities' were dealing with
the same issue. Staff noted other cities that were, or have been
discussing how to handle the issue. Commissioner Alderson
asked if you owned one of these units, can you legally dictate
the use of the unit. Staff stated yes; the owner is not required
to participate through the hotel. They can choose an
independent agent, but the keys must be kept by the hotel. If
they chose not to participate with the hotel. they would still be
required to pay the resort fees for the expected Transient
Occupancy Tax (TOT) fees.
3. Commissioner Barrows asked if the revised Resolution contained
the changes requested by staff. Staff stated these are
refinements as dictated by th<<;! City Attorney. Commissioner
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Barrows asked if this was an existing condition in other cities.
Staff stated it is in Indian Wells Ordinance and other cities as
well. The City would prefer they remain traditional hotels, In
the City's research it was found that the gap financing to make
a traditional hotel work would not be cost effective for the City.
Staff reviewed a broad spectrum of financing options and
believe this was the best solution.
4. Chairman Quill asked if the City has an ordinance for fractional
time-share units in regard to TOT. Staff stated there are none
currently in the City and this is the purpose of this ordinance.
5. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked
if there was any other public comment. Mr. .Rob Bernheimer,
representing the Lake La Quinta Inn, stated he was also a
Council Member for the City of Indian Wells and discussed how
they were handling this issue. In regard to the Lake La Quinta
Inn, this is a 1 2 unit Inn that has not been successful for the
owner, or in regard to TOT for the City. They would ask that
Section 1.1 be changed to "...all existing hotels in excess of 20
rooms". He does not want to explore what this hotel intends
to do, they just want to preserve their right to do something.
6. Chairman Quill asked if the Council adopts this Ordinance as it
is presented,. is there any option for an applicant to ask for an
ordinance to be waived in any situation that would be unique.
Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston stated a variance
would not be applicable in this instance. The mechanism would
be to amend the ordinance.
7. There being no further public participation portion of the public
hearing was closed and open for Commission discussion.
8. Commissioner Alderson asked if this was going to the Council.
Staff stated yes.
9. Commissioner Barrows asked if the Lake La Quinta Inn was a
hotel. Staff stated it is a hotel. Commissioner Barrows asked if
Mr. Bernheimer's request was reasonable.' Staff stated there
are some fundamental difficulties to this site that make it
challenging relative to the activities and intent. If a business
plan does not work for'the condo hotels, as it does not work for
the current use, the owners will do things that do not comply
with their permits to make it survive. There are some
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challenges to this property to allow it to convert to a
condominium hotel.
10. Commissioner Barrows asked if the Ordinance is approved as
drafted, the Inn could come back asking it to be amended.
11 . There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Alderson/Barrows to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 2006-042 approving Zoning Code
Amendment 2006-088, as recommended with consideration
explore the ramifications of allowing the less than 20 units.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Barrows, and Chairman
Quill. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Daniels
and Engle. ABSTAIN: None.
G. Development Agreement 2006-012; a request of the City for
consideration of a Development Agreement establishing the fees
associated with condo-hotel occupancy at the proposed boutique hotel
at SilverRock Resort located at the southwest corner of Jefferson
Street and Avenue 52.
1 . Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Community Development Director Doug Evans
presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy
of which is on file in the Community Development Department.
2. Chairman Quill asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Barrows asked what the water agreements entail.
Staff clarified there is a Master Agreement on the site and this
requires each developer to follow through with the Master
Agreement with CVWD.
3. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked
if there was any other public comment. There being none, the
public participation portion of the public hearing was closed and
open for Commission discussion.
4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded
by Commissioner Barrows/Alderson to adopt Planning
Commission Resolution 2006-043 approving Development
Agreement 2006-012, as recommended.
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ROll CAll: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Barrows, and Chairman
Quill. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Daniels
and Engle. ABSTAIN: None.
BUSINESS ITEM: None
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Staff asked if the Commission would prefer to go dark for the meeting
of December 26, 2006. Commissioners unanimously voted to go dark
for this meeting.
B. Review of City Council meeting of November 7,2006.
C. Commissioner Barrows asked about the Lighting Ordinance Work
Program. Staff explained the process that was currently being
considered.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Barrows/Alderson to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a
regular meeting of the Planning Commission to be held on November 28, 2006.
This meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 9:31 p.m. on
November 14, 2006.
Respectfully submitted,
J~
yer, Executive Secretary
a Quinta, California
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