2007 07 24 PC Minutes
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
July 24, 2007
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Alderson who asked Commissioner Daniels to lead the
flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Katie Barrows, Rick Daniels, Jim Engle, and
Chairman Ed Alderson. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Daniels/Barrows to excuse Commissioner Quill.
C. Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Michael Houston, Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer, Principal Planners
Walllace Nesbit, Stan Sawa, and Andrew Mogensen, Assistant Planners
Yvonne Franco and Eric Ceja, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
A. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Barrows to direct
staff to bring Item B under Commissioner Items back at the next
Commission meeting in order to allow Commissioner Quill to participate
in the discussion. Unanimously approved.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of
July 10, 2007. There being no changes, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Daniels/Barrows to approve the minutes as submitted.
Unanimously approved.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Site Development Permit 2007-887; a request of Eisenhower Medical
Center for consideration of development plans for an 85,655 square foot
three-story medical building (Phase I) located at the southeast corner of
Washington Street and Seeley Drive within the Centre Pointe project.
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1. Commissioner Daniels informed the Commission that he sits on the
Board of the JFK Hospital and does receive a stipend but does not
believe this is a conflict in his review of this project.
2. Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the
staff report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Planning Department. Assistant City Attorney Michael
Houston stated that the Environmental Assessment looked at the
traffic count for the uses presented tonight. The time to make a
challenge to those approvals has past and the issues tonight are
related to architecture and landscaping. The issues related to the
letter received from the City of Indian Wells are not relevant to the
item before the Commission. Planning Director Les Johnson
stated he had spoken with the City of Indian Wells prior to this
meeting and staff will be meeting with them regarding the traffic
issues raised in the letter.
3. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Engle asked if Washington Street would be
widened. Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer stated a deceleration lane
is planned, but there were no plans to widen the street.
Commissioner Engle asked for clarification on the access points.
Staff stated there were two access points on Seeley Drive and
none on Washington Street.
4. Commissioner Daniels asked the location of the covered parking, if
they had met their quota for parking spaces, and is the covered
parking in the right location. In the heat of the day the parking will
be on the west side and there are very few covered parking stalls
on the west. In addition, there does not appear to be enough
employee covered parking. Staff stated it could be provided if it
was the determination of the Commission. Commissioner Daniels
asked if the decomposed granite path currently along Washington
Street was intended to remain or would it be removed and paved.
Planning Director Les Johnson stated it was his understanding that
the meandering sidewalk will be installed. Commissioner Daniels
asked how the signs would be approved and lastly, will there be a
signal installed at Seeley Drive. Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer
stated the traffic analysis for this project shows the signal at
Seeley Drive and Miles Avenue must be installed before the
Certificate of Occupancy is issued, but it is required of the master
developer.
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5. Chairman Alderson asked if the storm water is to be dispatched to
the Whitewater Channel. Principal Engineer Wimmer asked that
the applicant answer this question. He noted the applicant has
options and staff is not certain which option they will take.
Chairman Alderson asked if the lawn in the front of the entry area
was artificial turf. Staff asked that the applicant needs to answer
this question. Chairman Alderson asked about the large landscape
area along Seeley Drive that is anticipated for a future
development. He asked if the area couldn't have a better use than
landscaping. Staff stated it was discussed at the Architecture and
Landscaping Review Committee meeting and it was determined to
be unnecessary.
6. Commissioner Barrows agreed with providing the additional
seating in this area. She noted the landscaping and berms along
Washington Street call for date palms and they are not shown on
the plans. Staff stated the revised preliminary plans show them
incorporated, but the plans presented do not. Commissioner
Barrows asked the height of the Homewood Suites. Staff stated it
is close to 45 feet.
7. Commissioner Daniels asked if there would be any ambulance
service. Staff stated for transportation purposes only, not
emergency services. Commissioner Daniels asked the height of
the building on the west side and what if the trees were relocated
to the west side to shade the play area. Also, is there a fence or
some way to have a barrier to keep children from going into the
parking lot. Staff stated the majority of the building is three
stories and in this location the play area should be shaded most of
the day. Commissioner Daniels stated the circulation for the
second entry for deliveries seems to be pinched and it seems
better truck movement could be provided by increasing the size of
this area.
8. Chairman Alderson asked if the parking lot lights would be dimmed
after hours. Staff stated the applicant would need to answer this.
9. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Alderson
asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr.
Ali Tourkaman, representing Eisenhower Medical Center,
introduced the development team and asked that the following
conditions be discussed. First Condition No. 17 for the signal; this
should be the responsibility of the master developer. Same with
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Condition No. 18, it should also be the responsibility of the master
developer. Condition No. 19.e. last paragraph, should also be the
responsibility of the master developer. Staff stated Seeley Drive
would need to be modified to allow the ADA accessibility. Mr.
Tourkaman stated that Condition 20.b needed to be modified to
allow the left turn out onto Seeley Drive at the easterly drive. Mr.
Tourkaman stated Condition No. 41, second paragraph should be
the responsibility of the master developer. Principal Engineer Ed
Wimmer stated the applicant has control how he desires to
discharge the stormwater. It is up to the applicant to determine
which option they want to do. Mr. Tourkaman stated the storm
channel exists. Ms. Malak Modarressi, RBF Engineering, explained
how the storm drain system was designed. Mr. Tourkaman asked
that Condition No. 53 be clarified as to what is expected of them.
10. Planning Director Les Johnson clarified there is a round-about just
east of their secondary access which would allow the ability to
turn around to go west on Seeley Drive. Principal Engineer Ed
Wimmer stated this is the first time they have heard about the
objection to the left turn and the applicant has had the conditions
for some time.
11. Chairman Alderson asked about the hours of operation. Mr.
Tourkaman stated approximately 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m., with the
exception of the emergency care center which may be 7:00 a.m.
to 8:00 p.m. Chairman Alderson stated he hoped the urgent care
hours would be extended. Mr. Tourkaman stated it would depend
on the demands of the community. Mr. Tourkaman stated that in
regard to the play area they would be concerned with children not
being supervised at all times. The lobby is designed to
accommodate large numbers. They would not want to have any
play area, but would have no objection to having a rest area with
benches or more parking near Seeley Drive.
12. Commissioner Daniels asked about the small amount of turf area
near the entry as it seems it will be a maintenance problem. Mr.
Tourkaman stated he had no objection to removing it.
Commissioner Daniels asked about relocating the covered parking.
Mr. Tourkaman stated they have no objection. Commissioner
Daniels asked about the extended hours of operation. Mr.
Tourkaman stated he is over the construction and would not want
to address something that is governed by the caregivers.
Commissioner Daniels asked if the existing urgent care centers
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would be relocated to this location. Mr. Tourkaman stated yes.
Commissioner Daniels asked about the truck entry area needing to
be revised to allow better exiting for the delivery trucks. Mr.
Tourkaman stated he agrees with his comments and will look into
redesigning this area.
13. Chairman Alderson asked about the operation of the urgent care.
Mr. Tourkaman explained the process. Chairman Alderson asked
the height of the trees in the large landscaped area. Mr. Rob
Parker, RGA Landscape Architects, explained the location of the
trees in the large landscape area will be 24 feet and are designed
to be retained for the future parking lot. He reviewed the trees
proposed. In regard to the turf area, they have no objection to
removing the turf but have recently received information regarding
artificial turf that it could get hot enough to burn the skin so they
are re-evaluating this area.
14. Commissioner Barrows asked how the landscaping can soften the
building. Mr. Parker stated that in their initial meetings with staff
they were asked to add planting along the southern portion of the
property. The northern section is being done by the master
developer and they are providing for a series of trees along
Washington Street from the Channel north. They would be willing
to add shrubs. Commissioner Barrows stated her concern is the
view corridor from Washington Street and wants to make sure
some open area between the buildings is maintained. She would
suggest the trees not be planted in regular spacing, but broken up
to maintain a view corridor. Mr. Parker noted the areas where the
view corridors would be kept. In regard to the spacing of trees, he
would agree but clarified that in some instances this is not
possible.
15. Commissioner Daniels asked if there were any disputes between
EMC and the master developer as to whose responsibility some of
the conditions should apply to. Mr. Tourkaman stated there is no
dispute, but neither is there anything in their agreement with the
master developer shifts these costs to them. Principal Engineer Ed
Wimmer clarified the condition does not put the responsibility of
installing the signal on this developer, it just requires it to be
installed before they open. It is ultimately the responsibility of the
master developer. Commissioner Daniels asked if there were any
precautions put on the master developer to see that the obligation
is met. Staff stated the agreement between the City and the
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master developer is that the signal would bee installed within 12
months. An extension can be requested, but it is up to the City
Council as to whether or not to grant the extension.
16. Chairman Alderson asked that Condition No. 19 be amended to
apply only to the applicant's property. In regard to the left turn at
the easterly access, he would not want to see it at this location.
In regard to Condition No. 41 the condition could be revised to
address the applicant's concern. In regard to Condition No. 53
(now Condition No. 54) it is a standard condition and should
remain. Mr. Tourkaman asked if they could have the flag pole at
100 feet. Staff stated that would allow it to be over double the
height of the building.
17. Commissioner Daniels asked if the proposed building along the
eastern portion of the channel was designated for medical uses.
Mr. Tourkaman stated it is currently planned as a surgery building,
but discussions have been held with CVWD regarding relocation of
the well site. The nature of the use of the proposed buildings will
be dictated by the needs of the community. Commissioner Daniels
noted that minimal parking is being installed and if you add more
medical facility, you would need another 343 spaces and this
could require a parking structure. Mr. Tourkaman stated not all of
uses within the building would increase the parking. If additional
parking is required, it will be added.
18. Chairman Alderson asked about the dimming of the parking lot
lights. Mr. Tourkaman stated they had no objection to lowering
the lights and/or dimming the lights as long as the public safety
was addressed.
19. Commissioner Barrows asked if there was an existing ADA access
from the hotel. Her concern is that the ADA pathway does not go
anywhere. Planning Director Les Johnson stated the hotel also
was required to provide the ADA accessibility. The wording could
be changed on this condition to require the ADA access to the
south side of Seeley Drive.
20. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any comments or questions
of the public. There being no further questions and no other public
comment, the public hearing was closed and open for Commission
discussion. Commissioner Daniels commended the applicant on
the design of the building. In regard to Condition No. 17, the
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signal is the responsibility of the master developer. Condition No.
18 the applicant will provide vehicle access for CVWD. Staff
stated this condition would be modified to require the applicant to
build the access with input and approval of CVWD at the phase
appropriate to the applicant. Condition No. 19 ADA access would
only be provided to the applicant's property line. In regard to the
left turn lane at the easterly access he would not want to
encourage the left turn at this location. In regard to the channel
lining, this is the responsibility of the master developer. Principal
Engineer Ed Wimmer stated CVWD has requested the lining and
staff would need to discuss this with CVWD. Commissioner
Daniels stated he would want to retain the condition but would
hope it is a responsibility of the master developer. He would also
want to see the turf removed, the truck turning radius increased to
allow the trucks to turn around and exit on the eastern side. In
regard to the letter from the City of Indian Wells he believes with
the opening of Jefferson Street the traffic counts have changed
and encouraged staff to have discussions with the City of Indian
Wells. Lastly, that the covered parking be relocated to have more
covered parking on the west side and over the employee parking
spaces.
21. Commissioner Barrows stated she concurred with Commissioner
Daniels. In regard to the large landscaped area she would want it
conditioned to provide some seating. The ADA access points
could be incorporated into this area. Condition No. 52 should be
revised to maintain some open view corridor by the placement of
the large trees.
22. Chairman Alderson also asked that the lights be dimmed within
two hours of closing.
23. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Engle/Daniels to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2007-032 recommending
approval of Site Development Permit 2007-887, as recommended
and amended:
a. Condition No. 19: Shall be amended to reference the
applicant's property only.
b. Condition 52: The applicant shall maintain an open view
corridor by staggering the trees.
c. Condition added: The turf at the entry area shall be
removed.
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d. Condition added: The applicant shall increase the delivery
truck access and turn around area subject to staff
approval.
e. Condition added: The applicant shall prove some covered
parking area to be relocated to the west side.
f. Condition added: The applicant shall provide some
seating areas in the large landscape area near Seeley
Drive.
g. Condition added: The applicant shall dim the parking lot
lighting within two hours of business closing.
ROl.L CALL: AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Daniels, Engle, and
Chairman Alderson. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Quill.
B. Site Development Permit 2007-889 and Sign Application 2007-1165; a
request of Kerr Project Services for Applebee's Restaurant for
consideration of development plans and a Sign Program for a 5,914
square foot restaurant located at the northeast corner of Washington
Street and Seeley Drive within the Centre Pointe project.
1 . Commissioner Engle stated he had a potential conflict of interest
and excused himself. Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston
explained Commissioner Engle would be allowed to participate in
the discussion of the Site Development Permit but could not
participate in any discussion regarding the Sign Application.
Commissioner Engle excused himself and left the dais.
2. Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the
staff report on the Sign Application. Principal Planner Stan Sawa
presented the information contained in the staff report regarding
the Sign Application, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
Department
3. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Daniels asked if the sign off of Miles Avenue would
be an off-site sign. Staff stated this business is a part of the
overall Specific Plan and therefore allowed.
4. Chairman Alderson asked the location of the monument sign.
Staff identified the location near Miles Avenue.
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5. Commissioner Daniels asked if the sign would be lit. Staff stated
it would be internally illuminated. Discussion followed regarding
the location of the sign.
6. Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant would like to address the
Commission. Ms. Deborah Kerr, representing Applebees, stated
they know the directional sign does not make sense as proposed,
but they wanted to place the sign to direct people into the project
from the north end. The directional sign would be to indicate
which driveway should be taken to get to the restaurant. Ms. Kerr
requested the wall signs be approved as submitted. She noted
most Applebee's locations have "Neighborhood Grill & Bar" on all
signs. They are only asking for it on the west elevation.
7. There being no further questions of the applicant and no other
public comment, the public hearing was closed and open for
Commission discussion.
8. Commissioner Daniels asked for the location of all the signs for the
project. Staff reviewed the location of the monument signs.
9. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Barrows/Daniels to
adopt Minute Motion 2007-012 approving Sign Application 2007-
1165 as recommended with the deletion of Condition No. 6
pertaining to reducing the wall sign sizes. Unanimously approved
with Commissioners Engle and Quill being absent.
10. Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing on the Site
Development Permit and asked for the staff report.
11. Commissioner Engle rejoined the Commission.
12. Commissioner Daniels asked if any environmental protection was
proposed for the south elevation. Staff noted there is a tile cover
over the patio area. Commissioner Daniels asked if it was a
walkway or a way to add additional landscaping on the west
elevation. Staff stated it is not shown on the plans, but the
perimeter landscaping is proposed by the master developer.
13. Chairman Alderson stated there is no landscaping on the south
elevation. Staff clarified the area off-site is the responsibility of
the master developer. They are also being required to provide a
switchback sidewalk for ADA accessibility on Washington Street.
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14. Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant would like to address the
site development permit. Ms. Kerr stated they would be working
with the master developer on the landscaping for the south and
west sides of the building. They have no objections to the
conditions as proposed.
15. There being no further questions of the applicant and no other
public comment, the public participation portion of the hearing was
closed and open for Commission discussion.
16. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Barrows/Daniels to adopt Planning Commission
Resolution 2007-033 approving Site Development Permit 2007-
889 as recommended.
ROL.L CALL: AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Daniels, Engle, and
Chairman Alderson. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Quill.
C. Site Development Permit 2007-879; a request of The Foundation Group
for consideration of architectural plans for a 6,200 square foot retail
building located within the La Quinta village Shopping Center on the
northwest corner of Washington Street and Calle Tampico.
1. Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the
staff report. Assistant Planner Eric Ceja presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Planning Department.
2. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Barrows asked about the landscaping. Staff stated
a landscape plan had not been submitted. Commissioner Barrows
asked that a different environment be created for landscaping by
use of the green screen. Staff stated they would work with the
applicant.
3. Chairman Alderson stated the south elevation is very bland even
with the considerable landscaping to screen the elevation. He
asked if the trees would provide any screening. Staff stated they
would be a medium height. The applicant is providing windows to
the south for the easterly tenant and staff required them to
separate the columns from the building.
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4. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Alderson
asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr.
Dan Almquist, representing the applicant, apologized for the
landscaping plan as it did not provide a complete picture of the
proposed landscaping.
5. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any comments or questions
of the public. Mr. Stephen Sterling, stated he was one of the
partners who owned the Center and he had some issues. First
was that the applicant did not comply with the Center's CC&R's.
The elevations were not submitted to them for approval prior to
submittal to the City. Ralphs grocery store also did not receive a
copy of the hearing notice or the plans. The site plan does not
address traffic flow or parking in the Center. The parking area is
to the side of the building and no handicapped parking is provided
on the north. They need to provide additional parking. Trucks will
have to unload in the fire lane. As they have not had the
opportunity to review the plans, they are asking the Commission
to reject this application till they meet their requests.
6. Commissioner Daniels noted Ralph's did not have parking in front
of their store. Mr. Sterling stated it is the only store that does not
provide parking directly in front. Commissioner Daniels asked if
the overall Specific Plan allowed for this pad to be built on. Mr.
Sterling stated it was to be a bank building.
7. Chairman Alderson stated even if it were to be a bank it would not
change the number of parking spaces provided or change the use.
Mr. Sterling stated his concern is that Ralph's does intend to
expand which will require additional parking.
8. Commissioner Daniels stated the City is not a purview to enforcing
the CC&R's. Mr. Sterling stated he wanted the building closer to
Calle Tampico. Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston asked if
Ralph's had given any notice regarding any of the buildings in the
Center. Planning Director Les Johnson stated no.
9. Chairman Alderson asked if Mr. Sterling was trying to bank the
parking for Ralph's future expansion. Mr. Sterling stated yes.
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10. Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant would like to respond.
Mr. Dana McCay, representing The Foundation Group, stated there
are some grade issues that prevent them from moving the building
further to Calle Tampico. They concur with staff's
recommendation.
11 . There being no further questions and no other public comment, the
public hearing was closed and opened for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Daniels stated the noticing requirements were
complied with and the other issues raised by the Center owner are
not an issue for the Commission.
12. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Barrows to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2007-034 recommending
approval of Site Development Permit 2007-879, as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Daniels, Engle, and
Chairman Alderson. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Quill.
BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Sign Application 2007-1136; a request of Embassy Suites for Spa
Hibiscus, for consideration of an Amendment to an approved Sign
Pro\lram for a business identification sign, located on the north side of
Calle Tampico, within the Embassy Suites Hotel.
1. Commissioner Engle stated he had a potential conflict of interest
and excused himself.
2. Chairman Alderson asked for the staff report. Assistant Planner
Yvonne Franco presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning Department.
2. Chairman Alderson asked why the sign was already installed. He
does support the sign but questioned why the applicant would
disregard the City's Sign Ordinance. Planning Director Les
Johnson stated he believes the applicant had no intention to
comply.
3. There being no further questions of the applicant and no other
public comment, the public comment portion was closed and open
for Commission discussion.
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4. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Barrows/Daniels to
adopt Minute Motion 2007-013 approving Sign Application 2007-
1136 as submitted by the applicant. Unanimously approved.
Commissioner Engle rejoined the Commission.
CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Disc:ussion of landscaping policies in regard to water features and turf
usa!~e. Commissioner Daniels suggested this item be continued to the
next meeting to allow Commissioner Quill to join the discussion. He
would suggest that it be handed out to the public to let them know it is
und,er consideration by the City.
B. Disc:ussion of a multi-use trail on Madison Street south of Avenue 60.
Commissioner Daniels also recommended this item be continued to the
next meeting.
C. Review of City Council meeting of July 17, 2007. Chairman Alderson
asked for a new list of when the Commissioners are to attend the City
Council meetings.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Barrows/Daniels to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a
regular meeting to be held on August 28, 2007. This regular meeting was adjourned
at 10:04 p.m. on July 24, 2007.
Respectfully submitted,
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