2007 11 27 PC Minutes
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
November 27, 2007
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Alderson who led the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Katie Barrows, Jim Engle, Paul Quill, Robert
Wilkinson, and Chairman Ed Alderson.
C. Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Michael Houston, Planning Manager David Sawyer, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa, and Management Assistant Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of
November 13, 2007. There being no changes, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Barrows/Engle to approve the minutes as
submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Site Development Permit 2007-896; a request of Coachella Valley
Recreation and Park District (CVRPD) for consideration of Phase 1
development plans (passive Public Park, Trails, and Interpretive Center)
for the "Coral Mountain Discovery Park to be located at the southeast
quadrant of Jefferson Street and Avenue 58.
1 . Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the
staff report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa explained staff was
requesting a continuance to allow the applicant time to obtain the
property owner's signature on the application.
2. There being no questions of staff, it was moved and seconded by
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Commissioners Barrows/Quill to continue Site Development Permit
2007-896 to December 11, 2007. Unanimously approved.
B. Site Development Permit 2007-895; a request of K. Hovananian Homes
for consideration of architectural and landscaping plans for three
prototypical residential plans for use in Tract 30092 (Piazza Serena)
located at the northwest corner of Monroe Street and Avenue 58.
1 . Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the
staff report. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Planning Department. Staff was recommending a condition
be added stating, "The developer shall put notice in the sales
office and all potential buyers of units in the tract that the Plan 1
unit may have a optional upper floor skydeck." Also, Condition 11
be amended to read, "A plot plan showing the location of all Plan
1 units shall be approved by the Planning Director prior to issuance
of a building permit."
2. Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Engle asked for clarification on the letter from Mr.
John Gillete. Commissioner Quill clarified he was objecting to the
skydeck as he was told there would be no second story units
constructed.
3. Commissioner Quill asked what was directly to the west of the
tract. Staff stated the Imperial Irrigation District Substation and
corporate offices to the north is the Capistrano tract that is under
construction.
4. Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant was aware of staff's
recommendation to changing out the tree variety. Staff stated they
were and had no objection.
5. There being no further questions of the staff, Chairman Alderson
asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr.
James Crandall, representing K. Hovananian Homes, stated they
had no objection to replacing the tree variety. In regard to the
condition staff is recommending, they have not seen the revised
condition in regard to circulating a letter to the proposed buyers
regarding the skydeck.
6. Commissioner Quill asked if he had seen the letter from Mr.
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Gillette and did he understand whether or not there was ever a
disclosure made by K. Hovananian regarding there would be no
second story units constructed. Mr. Crandall stated he was not
aware of any such disclosure. Commissioner Quill asked if there
had been any discussions with the tract to the north. Mr. Crandall
stated they had not. Commissioner Quill asked if they were aware
of the new CVWD water requirements as their plans show a lot of
lawn. Mr. Crandall stated he was aware of the new requirements
and would be reducing the lawn area as required.
7. Chairman Alderson stated the Commission is very sensitive to
second story units that allow views into the backyard of a
neighboring unit. It appears that the location of the Plan 1 units
will cause this problem.
8. Commissioner Wilkinson asked if on the original conditions were
there any conditions stating height maximums or two story homes.
Staff stated they did not believe there were any such conditions.
9. There being no further questions of the applicant, Chairman
Alderson asked if there was any other public comment. Mr. John
Pedalino, representing Desert Elite, stated they are the developers
to the north and have four homes in escrow that abut this project
and are requesting that no Plan 1 with a skydeck be allowed to be
constructed adjacent to their project.
10. Mr. Troy Hefner, 57-850 Resedenza Court, stated his concern is
the drainage issues on the existing lots and they have not been
able to get any resolution from the contractor regarding the
installation of a drywell to resolve this problem. It is currently a
swamp and it should be resolved before any new units are
constructed.
11. Mr. Mark Yacullo, 81-769 Del Serenata Drive, stated he has the
same concern with drainage problem as there is water and mud on
the streets now. If new houses are built, it will only increase the
problem.
12. Commissioner Quill asked if the streets are muddy and is this from
not being cleaned or from the dry well problem. Mr. Yacullo
stated the developer has cored through the curbing and the lots
are now draining into the street causing the muddy streets.
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Commissioner Quill asked what his opinion was of the entire
development. Mr. Yacullo stated his back yard is flooded because
of the sprinklers from the perimeter landscaping shoots into his lot.
There are several issues of concern regarding the landscaping and
they cannot get any resolve from the developer as the developer
says the City will not allow him to change it.
13. Mr. Brett Picano, 57-810 Residenza Court, stated he had worked
for the sales office at the time the units were being sold and they
were never told there would be two story units or skydecks. In
regard to Commissioner Quill's question, there is zero maintenance
in the community. They do not trim the trees or reseed the lawns.
His greatest concern is the skydecks. Additionally, he objects to
the model parking lot they intent to construct right behind his
home.
14. Commissioner Quill asked if he sold these homes for K.
Hovananian, and he gave assurances there would be no second
story units or skydecks constructed. He reviewed the lots that
were sold during the time he worked there.
15. Commissioner Wilkinson asked if he was given any material from
the developer as to whether second story units would be built.
Mr. Picano stated they were never told anything from the
developer but based on the brochures and materials supplied by K.
Hovnanaian, as well as the Plan options they were promoting at
that time. They were never given any disclosures or training in
regard to selling the units.
16. Mr. John Downs, 81-823 Del Serenata, stated his concern was
the retention basin. He was the first person to move in and the
water problem has been there since he moved in. It is an eyesore
and a health hazard to the community. He is also concerned that
the size of the new proposed homes will devalue their homes as
they are smaller. Lastly, the size of electrical lines that come into
the tract run down the back of his house. These power lines are
so strong his neighbor was electrocuted. Palm trees have been
planted directly in line of the power lines. The maintenance of the
tract is horrible. The sprinkler lines are working off extension
cords. He is a member of the HOA and for two years they have
fought with the developer and cannot get any cooperation.
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17. Commissioner Quill asked where the power lines are located. Mr.
Downs stated the power lines run along Avenue 58. They were
there before the tract was constructed, but were moved after they
moved in and in some instances they are in the back yards.
Commissioner Quill stated liD normally has a 50-foot prohibition
on any trees being planted that would interfere with the power
lines. Mr. Downs stated the elevation of the property and the way
the property was graded to drain does not work. The dirt is clay
and there is no percolation so the water does not drain.
18. Chairman Alderson asked the location of the palm trees. Mr.
Downs stated they are around the entire project. They are off-site,
but under the power lines.
19. Commissioner Wilkinson asked the location of the retention basin.
Mr. Downs stated they are Lot 1 and G.
20. Mr. Troy Hefner stated he was one of the last buyers in this tract
last December, and as far as he knows no two story units were
ever disclosed.
21. Mr. Mark Yacullo stated he did go to liD and was told the land
where the palm trees are located was dedicated to the City. He
knows the power lines were moved since they built their pool and
have been shocked while in their pools. liD has stated to him it is
the responsibility of the City.
22. Commissioner Quill asked legal counsel if liD didn't have to have
an easement at least 20 feet from the centerline of the pool.
Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston stated liD easements
typically allow them to locate the poles within their easements. If
they are outside their easements, then there is a problem.
Commissioner Quill asked staff to verify where the easement is
and the location of the poles and palm trees.
23. Ms. Sherry Brown, 57-768 Cantano Drive, stated her concern is
the size of the new models and the impact this will have on their
market value in the future. She also agrees with all comments
regarding the retention basin and lack of drainage. She asked who
the streets belong to as they have blocked off access to the
streets with the empty lots and were told th'ey are not allowed to
walk around neighborhood.
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24. Commissioner Quill asked if all the streets are paved. Ms. Brown
stated yes, in their section only. Commissioner Quill asked if the
street was capped. Ms. Brown stated only in their section.
25. Ms. Amelia Vasquez, 57-770 Resedenza Court, stated she also is
a part of the HOA and at every meeting since she moved in they
have brought up the concern of the retention basin and have been
told every time they will fix the problem. Two years later they still
have no answer or resolution to resolve this problem. She would
hope the Commission would not approve this tract until these
problems are resolved.
26. Mr. Brett Pica no stated the streets are capped on all the finished
products, but they still have potholes. They repaired the curbs,
but they still have left holes in the curbs.
27. Commissioner Quill asked if the streets have been finaled and have
the bonds been released for the first phase. Staff stated they
were unaware, but will obtain an answer from Public Works
Department. Mr. Pica no stated they asked the developer about
the streets and were told the streets were the responsibility of the
City. Commissioner Quill stated the HOA owns the streets and
the bonds will cover the repair.
28. Chairman Alderson asked if the developer has representation on
the Board. Mr. Vasquez stated they are the majority on the board
and they have changed their members three times.
29. Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant would like to address
some of the concerns raised. Mr. Crandall sated they are working
with a civil and soils engineer to solve the retention basin problems
and will have that answer within the week. Adding a dry well will
not solve the problem. In regard to capping the streets, there is no
way to cap them where the lots are not finished. The houses that
are finished are capped. He is not aware of the power lines or the
location of the palm trees, but he will look into at the final map.
He is aware of the high turnover on the HOA board due to the
market changes, but he is willing to look into all these issues to
resolve them.
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30. Commissioner Quill stated K. Hovnanian should be ashamed of
their actions for letting this tract go this bad and they should be
asking for a continuance as he will not support any request at this
time.
31 . There being no public comment, the public hearing was closed and
open for Commission discussion.
32. Commissioner Engle stated the issues raised by the homeowners
should be addressed and perhaps a continuance is in order.
33. Commissioner Barrows stated she would like staff to clarify what
action the Commission can take in regard to the issues raised.
Planning Director Les Johnson stated a continuance would allow
staff to look into the issues raised and report back to the
Commission on what actions could be taken.
34. Chairman Alderson suggested the next time the applicant comes
before the Commission they bring their landscaping, grading and
engineering representatives. He would also like to know if the
bonds have been released for the streets.
35. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Barrows/Quill to continue this to December 11,
2007. Unanimously approved.
BUSINESS ITEMS: None
CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
A. Chairman Alderson reviewed his letter to staff in regard to dust
problems.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Commissioner Quill asked the status of the Golf Cart Ordinance. Staff
stated Phase 1 was presented and approved by Council, but the second
reading of the Ordinance was not held to allow striping and signage on
the streets, as well as licensing of the golf carts. The second reading
should be in December and the improvements done so the Plan could be
implemented. Staff reviewed the routes proposed for Phase 1.
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B. Commissioner Quill stated the City lacks the ability to advertise events in
the City, such as the Village even if it is temporary signage. Without the
ability to get this information out, we are defeating the purpose of
promoting La Quinta where we can get the most exposure. Staff stated
such advertising would encompass several departments in the City. Staff
is currently reviewing signage for the Village. To date, we have not
focused on any community advertising where temporary signage could be
utilized to announce community events/functions. Staff can look into
this and report back to the Commission.
C. Commissioner Barrows asked when the Commission would receive a
report on the "Green" efforts. Staff stated this report would be
presented at the second meeting of the Council in December.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Barrows/Wilkinson to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a
regular meeting to be held on December 11, 2007. This regular meeting was
adjourned at 8:24 p.m. on November 27,2007.
Respectfully submitted,
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