2007 12 10 CSC Minutes
COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION
MINUTES
December 10, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
A regular meeting of the Community Services Commission was called to order at
5:30 p.m. by Chairperson Weber.
Commissioner Sylk led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Commissioner Sheldon Brodsky
Commissioner Andrea Gassman
Vice-Chairperson Bob Leidner
Commissioner E. Howard Long
Commissioner Dori Quill
Commissioner Robert F. Sylk
Chairperson Mark Weber
STAFF PRESENT: Edie Hylton, Community Services Director
Steve Howlett, Golf & Parks Manager
Angela Guereque, Community Services Senior Secretary
PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
CONFIRMATION OF AGENDA
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Gassman and seconded by Commissioner
Sylk to confirm the agenda. Motion carried unanimously.
PRESENTATIONS:
None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Approval of November 19, 2007 Minutes
Ms. Guereque noted that the header throughout the minutes has the incorrect date.
Commissioner Quill noted that on Page 3 at the bottom, where it says
"Commissioner Quill feels that $4,000 is nothing to payout of the APP account,"
she thought she said $3,000 is nothing to payout of the APP account of
approximately $500,000.
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Commissioner Quill asked if the motion for Mural #2 at the bottom of Page 4 was
for the full price of $8,000 or lower with the discount from the artist. Secretary
Guereque stated that the two motions were each made at the full price with the
discount coming afterwards. Chairperson Weber stated that he would like a
comment added to the minutes that the artist will give the discount since both
murals were approved.
Commissioner Quill noted that in the middle of Page 5 under the motion, it should
be clarified that the Commission based this on the longer volunteer time.
Commissioner Gassman stated that the Commission did not base the vote on
volunteer time, but on residency.
Commissioner Quill stated that on Page 6, under Commissioner Items, it should be
noted that she attended Trails Day and Stargazing and Commissioner Gassman
attended Trails Day.
Chairperson Weber asked the Secretary to check the recording so the minutes
reflect what was actually expressed and/or commented on in the meeting.
Commissioner Gassman noted that on Page 3 under Business Item No.1,
Paragraph 1 should read "expresses" not "express's."
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Sylk and seconded by Commissioner
Gassman to approve the minutes as corrected. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
PUBLIC HEARING
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
1. Consideration of an Art in Public Places Strate~ic Plan.
Director Hylton explained that this Art in Public Places (APP) Strategic Plan is
identified in the Community Services Commission Work Plan.
Commissioner Brodsky stated that he felt this was a wonderful report and thanked
staff for their efforts. He asked if the City owned any other pieces by artist John
Kennedy besides the Solitude at the Senior Center. Director Hylton stated she
believed the other piece the City owns is the Spirit of La Quinta by that same
artist.
Commissioner Sylk agreed with Commissioner Brodsky and noted that the new
APP contracts should have some kind o,f language stating that the City owns the
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art piece and can move it from its original location. Director Hylton stated that
legal counsel is putting together language which will give the City the right to move
art pieces that the City owns. In all cases, we didn't automatically take ownership
and ongoing maintenance. The most recent agreement we have for the Andalusia
piece, because of its size, is for TD Desert to own and be responsible for the
maintenance.
Commissioner Long stated that the report is excellent and noted that he has
concerns with the City not having rights to relocate art pieces. Director Hylton
stated that staff is working with the artist of the Highway 111 /Washington Street
Gem of the Desert piece to make some changes to the art piece to either remove or
modify it. At this point, the artist is not ready to move it, but efforts are
continuing to see if there are any alternatives to the situation.
Commissioner Gassman stated that she felt this was a fabulous report and
congratulated the staff. She stated she enjoyed reading the difference of how
artist's purchased or loaned pieces to the City.
Director Hylton stated that there are documents on the website for developers to
apply for constructing an APP piece. One of the other reasons staff wanted to get
this plan before the Commission is because of the Museum and how we might
handle art in the museum, art on loan, art from other museums, and historical
documents on loan.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner stated that the plan was very informative and liked the
comment about developing an artist registry. Director Hylton stated that the La
Quinta Arts Foundation has offered to help staff with this because they have
access to a number of artists.
Chairperson Weber stated that this is a great guide and plan. Making the art more
visible with placards and occasional tours are good ideas. He reminded staff to
update the recommendations as pieces are completed. Chairperson Weber asked if
there could be a minimum time frame put on the APP map to assist people with
seeing the pieces. Commissioner Gassman commented that some person may
spend 10 seconds at a piece and others may spend a half hour at each piece.
Director Hylton suggested a comment stating "Enjoy an afternoon or a morning" or
placing an art tour online.
Commissioner Long asked if the new art locations could be added to the current
APP map. Director Hylton stated that once the new projects are done, the map will
be redone with all the new art locations.
Chairperson Weber asked if the Commission would have an annual review of this
plan. Director Hylton stated that staff will get this plan in place and tie the goals
into the Community Services Commission Work Plan.
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Chairperson Weber asked if there was a way to enhance, expand, and support
performing arts. Director Hylton stated that we might not be able to use APP
funds for performing arts because it is not a permanent amenity, but if the
Commission feels this is a good idea, staff would tie it into the Community
Services Work Plan. There is a plan for a Blackbox Theatre at SilverRock Resort.
Commissioner Sylk asked if the art pieces in the APP are only what the City has
purchased and selected. Director Hylton stated that the APP includes Developer
requested art pieces; Civic Center art purchases; donated art pieces; and art on
loan. Commissioner Sylk asked what process could be taken if a Commissioner
found an art piece that they felt could be part of the APP. Director Hylton stated
that a recommendation could be brought to the Commission for consideration to be
forwarded to the City Council.
Commissioner Quill asked if the Art Map had a cost of $6 each. Director Hylton
stated that she believed that was the cost of the current Art Map for design and
printing. Commissioner Quill asked if these maps are passed out very much and
where people can get them. Director Hylton stated these maps are available at the
front desk in City Hall and at the Chamber of Commerce. Staff is currently looking
into new printers for the Art and Bike maps at a lower cost.
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Sylk and seconded by Commissioner
Gassman to recommend the Art in Public Places Strategic Plan for 2007-2008.
Motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Brodsky stated that the cities of Palm Springs and Rancho Mirage
hold architectural tours and suggested the City of La Quinta have a bus tour of the
art pieces. Chairperson Weber stated that occasional APP tours for citizens are
listed as a recommendation in the Strategic Plan. Director Hylton stated that staff
could get some ideas for a tour from the City of Palm Desert.
2. Consideration of an Additional Commissioner to Attend the CPRS Conference
February 26-29, 2008.
Director Hylton explained that the Community Services Commission now consists
of seven Commissioners and it would make sense to allow for more Commissioners
to attend this annual conference. Since staff has only one Commissioner budgeted
this year, if the Commission recommends a request to send additional
Commissioners this year, staff would then take this report to City Council asking
for an appropriation of funds.
Commissioner Gassman stated that there are three Commissioners who have not
been to this conference and maybe the Commission could consider more than two.
This conference was a great experience and gave a better understanding of the
Community Services Commission.
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Chairperson Weber asked if this was something that the Commission wanted to go
back to the City Council to ask for an additional budget item.
Commissioner Sylk commended Commissioner Quill's enthusiasm, but felt that this
item could be brought up in the future to let the Commission decide to send more
or less Commissioners to this conference. Commissioner Sylk stated that the
Commission has already voted and made a selection on the attendance to this
conference and would like to stand by the original decision.
Commissioner Quill asked what the monetary amount was for a Commissioner to
attend. Director Hylton stated the amount is $1,019 as per the staff report.
Commissioner Quill asked how much the Community Services budget was.
Director Hylton stated that the total budget for Community Services including
SilverRock Resort is just under $8 million. Commissioner Quill stated the Planning
Commission sends the whole Commission and the Historical Commission sends the
whole Commission to training every year. As a new Commissioner, she would like
to learn now rather than later and feels this conference would be a real benefit to
her.
Commissioner Long stated that this issue was not raised at the time of the original
vote and it should be considered next year. He didn't feel that last year he would
have been ready to attend such a conference. After having put in some time and
seen some of the things the Commission deals with, there is a good understanding
of where things can be fixed and brought back from the conference.
Commissioner Gassman stated she had served on the Commission for awhile
before attending this conference. The experience on the Commission first was
helpful. Once the conference was attended, a full report was brought back to the
Commission to make everyone feel like they were included with what went on.
Commissioner Brodsky stated that he served on the Cultural Arts Commission for
over three years and no one was ever sent to a conference. He asked if the
purpose of this Conference is for Commissioners to share what they learn. Director
Hylton stated that the conference is for individual training and to share with others.
Commissioner Brodsky stated he was comfortable with Commissioner Long
attending and sharing.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner stated he was glad that he had the opportunity to attend
the conference. Most of the seminars at the conference could have been
summarized in about 2 minutes. It is a good experience for everybody to get the
opportunity to go once; a second' time is not a worthwhile expenditure of the City's
money. One Commissioner attending per year is sufficient and they should come
back and highlight their experience for the rest of the Commissioners.
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Sylk and seconded by Commissioner
Brodsky to not recommend an additional Commissioner to attend the California
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Parks and Recreation Society's Annual Conference in Long Beach, California,
February 26-29, 2008. Motion carried with Commissioner Quill opposing.
Chairperson Weber stated this is an opportunity to look at where we go in the
future. When someone attends this conference they should come back and present
and share the knowledge learned.
Director Hylton asked if the Commission would like to see more people attending
next year and if staff should plan for that in the budget. Chairperson Weber stated
that the consensus was that this was not an appropriate use of the public
resources. Commissioner Quill said that we are talking about .08% of the budget.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner stated he felt the money could be better spent on
something else.
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Long and seconded by Commissioner
Gassman to recommend staff continue to budget for one Commissioner per year to
attend the California Parks and Recreation Society's Annual Conference. Motion
carried with Commissioner Quill opposing.
Commissioner Quill stated that she doesn't understand the fiscal conservatism over
this issue and wondered if there are some hard feelings because she asked to go to
this conference when nobody else showed an interest in wanting to go.
Chairperson Weber stated that this Commission just became the largest
Commission. There is a history of how we have been doing things and whether it
is an appropriate use of public resources. Whether the Planning Commission,
Historical Commission, or Finance Commission does it another way is not
necessarily an impact to the decision being made here, it is what the Community
Services Commission thinks is the best use of their resources 'and if it is an
appropriate expenditure for the citizens. Chairperson Weber understands
Commissioner Quill's budget comparison, but does not feel that the Commission is
thinking about it that way.
Commissioner Sylk stated to Commissioner Quill that this in not anything against
her personally. We are all doing the best we can for the City that we represent.
When a motion is made and you are defeated we have to accept that majority rules
and move onto the next thing. We all work together and it is nothing personal.
CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIALS
1 . Monthly Department Report for October 2007
Director Hylton stated that the rental revenues were down due to the library
closure. Resident card revenues are down due to 3-year membership cards.
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Commissioner Brodsky stated that he used to be a member of the Senior Center for
$5 year. No one has ever sent a reminder for another $5 and feels that this was a
great source of revenue for the Senior Center. Director Hylton stated that this
membership is actually through the Friends of the Senior Center nonprofit group.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner asked about the increase in sports field revenue. Director
Hylton stated that there were more teams in football and adult soccer.
Chairperson Weber stated the Fitness Center is doing wonderfully and this will be
an item for discussion later in the year about the direction of the Fitness Center and
what the citizens and City Council expect. It is nice to see staff trying new
programs.
2. Calendar of Monthly Events
Commissioner Gassman stated that part of the Tree Lighting events were
conducted inside and felt it was a great improvement although the sound could be
improved. Generally, having the tree lighting and candy cane hunt outdoors, and
then having everyone come into the building was a huge success and suggested
encouraging the audience to sing along to the songs next year.
Commissioner Sylk stated that the food at the Open House at City Hall was great.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner stated he was a little surprised that there are events
scheduled during the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic. Director Hylton stated that the
celebrities play at SilverRock Resort on Wednesday, January 16, 2008.
3. Coachella Valley Recreation & Park District Revenue/Expense Report
Chairperson Weber asked if the fees and charges in General Revenue of $145,000
are just for La Quinta activities. Director Hylton stated that the $145,000 in
revenue is all the money collected for La Quinta programs fees and charges. The
debt service payment shown on the report is for improvements made to the La
Quinta Community Park and facilities several years ago. Chairperson Weber stated
that if you look at revenue over expenses, revenue is pretty significant over
expenses even when including paying the debt service and capital projects leaving
a positive balance of approximately $80,000.
Commissioner Quill asked if the numbers were the same last year. Director Hylton
stated this report has not been provided to the Commission for several years.
Commissioner Quill stated that if the District has a balance of $80,000 every year
we should be concerned. Director Hylton stated that staff will continue to ask for
this report on an annual basis.
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Commissioner Long stated that if Coral Mountain wasn't included we would be
seeing an even greater increase in net revenue. CVRPD is taking away more than
providing. The Commission should watch this for possible adjustments.
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Chairperson Weber stated that the consensus of the Commission is to receive this
report on an annual basis.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
1 . Reports from Commissioners Regardin~ Meetin~s Attended
Commissioner Sylk attended the Open House. Commissioner Quill attended the
Open House. Commissioner Long attended the Tree Lighting Ceremony.
Commissioner Gassman attended the Open House and the Tree Lighting Ceremony.
Commissioner Brodsky attended the Open House and the Tree Lighting Ceremony.
Chairperson Weber attended the Open House and the Tree Lighting Ceremony.
OPEN DISCUSSION
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Sylk and seconded by Commissioner Long to
adjourn the Community Services Commission meeting at 6:53 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
NEXT MEETING INFORMATION:
A Regular Meeting of the Community Services Commission to be held on January
14, 2008 commencing at 5:30 p.m. in the La Quinta Senior Center, 78-450
Avenida La Fonda, La Quinta, CA 92253.
Submitted by:
Ange a Guereque
Community Services