1998 12 03 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
December 3,1998
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Committee was called to order
at 10: 12 a.m. by Community Development Director Jerry Herman who led the flag
salute.
B. Committee Members present: Bill Bobbitt and Dennis Cunningham.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Principal Planners
Stan Sawa and Fred Baker, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Community Development Director Jerry Herman asked if there were any changes to
the Minutes of November 20, 1998. There being no corrections, it was moved and
seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Bobbitt to approve the minutes as
submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Site Development Permit 98-636; a request oflnnovative Resorts Communities for
approval of architectural and landscaping plans for five prototype plans within PGA
West on Weiskopf, west of Winged Foot.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Committee Member Bill Bobbitt informed those present that even though he
is employed by one of the Homeowner Associations at PGA West, he is able
to comment on any project at PGA West as long as it is not within his own
Homeowner's Association. In regards to this project that is not within that
area, he is familiar with the existing units and the proposed and they are nice
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addition. The landscaping plant pallet is good. The date palm to be used in
the small islands will not be a problem. His concern has been the crowns
breaking off of the larger palms. On the use of pine trees, he has had
problems with some of the pine trees at PGA West. All other trees are pretty
standard. He is not against using the pine trees, rather the problems they have
incurred using them in the desert is that they can be diseased and cause a
problem.
3. Mr. Pete Bilicki, Innovative Resort Communities, the applicant, stated they
would check with their landscape architect regarding the pine trees.
Discussion followed regarding the use of pine trees.
4. Committee Member Dennis Cunningham stated that in regard to the
architecture, they are compatible with the existing units. He asked if staff to
clarifY why and where they were recommending the use of surrounds on the
windows. Discussion followed regarding the window treatments.
5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members CunninghamlBobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 98-014 approving
Site Development Permit 98-636 as recommended by staff and with the
deletion of the pine trees from the plant pallette. Unanimously approved.
B. Site Development Permit 98-641; a request of Southern Hills, LLC (Roger Hobbs)
for approval of architectural and landscaping plans for three prototype plans for the
property located on the east side of Southern Hills, at Oakmont and at the north end
of Laurel Valley in PGA West.
I. Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt asked staff to clarifY the reason for the change
in the size of the garage. Staff stated it was to accommodate a hot water
heater and door which encroaches into it.
3. Committee Member Cunningham stated it is another fine product in PGA
West and is in keeping with what is existing.
4. Committee Member Bobbitt abstained due to a possible conflict of interest.
5. There being no further discussion it was moved and seconded to adopt
Minute Motion 98-015 approving Site Development Permit 98-641 as
recommended by staff.
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C. Site Development Permit 98-634; a request of Rielly Homes, Inc. for approval of
preliminary landscaping plans for six prototype residential plans for the property east
of Madison Street, south of Airport Boulevard in Tract 28838 in Specific Plan 83-
002 (PGA West) and part of Specific Plan 90-017 to the south.
I. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the staff
report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development
Department.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt stated the plant pallet is very compatible with
the existing.
3. Mr. Forrest Haag, representing Rielly Homes, stated Mr. Rielly had asked
that he be allowed to use concrete tile as well as clay barrel tile. In his
opinion they are consistent with the existing units. Mr. Rielly was asking for
confirmation that in order to create the right effect for some of these
elevations he wanted the opportunity to use the clay and concrete tiles.
Predominately it will be clay tiles.
4. Staff asked what the colors would be. Mr. Haag stated it will be similar to
what is approved.
5. Committee Member Cunningham asked where the concrete tiles would be
used. Mr. Haag stated this tract was on the east side of Madison Street. Most
of the projects done by KSL has been predominately clay tiles. The use of
concrete tile is to create a little variety between the tracts. Mr. Rielly is
asking to have that variety.
6. Committee Member Cunningham stated that in his opinion ifit did not make
a dramatic variation there is no problem. If it can be shown that the color
pallet works then he has no objection.
7. Community Development Director Jerry Herman asked ifhe was proposing
the flat tile, "S" tile, or both. Mr. Haag stated they were wanting to move
from the strict "S" style look whether concrete or clay. Community
Development Director Jerry Herman stated if they are "S" shaped whether
concrete or clay is all right. If they are asking for the flat tile, they will have
to go back to the Planning Commission. Mr. Haag stated they were not
specific on the concrete or clay. Principal Planner Stan Sawa stated they
were specific in their submitted plans where each example was the "S" style.
Mr. Haag stated they were looking for the opportunity to have a variation in
the roof tile from what has been done at PGA West. The flat is compatible
and is not a high fired ceramic tile. They may be "S" shaped or flat.
Concrete flat tile is existing in PGA West and therefore, not inconsistent.
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8. Community Development Director Jerry Herman asked the Committee for
their preference. Committee Member Cunningham stated recommended they
take it to the Planning Commission and he would suggest that if they want a
flat tile, they should take a demographic count of the area to support their
argument.
9. Community Development Director Jerry Herman asked if this Committee
was supporting the flat tile. Committee Member Cunningham stated they
cannot because they do not know the demographics on how it has been used.
10. Committee Member Bobbitt stated a mixture is already existing. There are
a number of units with flat tile roofs. There are no mudded tiles, but yes they
have the "S" and flat. He would have no objection to the applicant's request
to use concrete flat or "S" tiles.
II. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Bobbitt/Cunningham to adopt Minute Motion 98-016 approving
Site Development Permit 98-634 as recommended by staff with the addition
ofthe use of flat or "S" concrete style tiles.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
V. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS:
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members
Bobbitt/Cunningham to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping
Committee to the next regular meeting to be held on January 6, 1999. This meeting was adjourned
at 10:53 a.m. on December 3,1998.
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