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1993 12 15 DRB Minutes MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CITY OF LA QUINTA A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall 78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, California December 15, 1993 5:30 P.M. I. CALL TO ORDER A. Vice Chairman Campbell brought the meeting to order at 5:33 P.M. and Board Member Rice led the flag salute. II. ROLL CALL A. Present: Board Members Fred Rice, David Harbison, Randall Wright, Paul Anderson, Planning Commissioner Marrs, and Vice Chairman Campbell. B. Vice Chairman Campbell asked for a motion to excuse Chairman Cutis and Board Members Harbison/Wright moved and seconded the motion. It carried unanimous I y. C. Staff present: Planning and Development Director Jerry Herman, Principal Planner Stan Sawa, Associate Planners Greg Trousdell and Leslie Mouriquand- Cherry, and Department Secretary Betty Sawyer. III. BUSINESS SESSION Vice Chairman Campbell stated he had a possible conflict of interest, turned the meeting over the Board Member Harbison, and withdrew from the meeting. A. Sil!:n Application 93-235; a request of Palm Royale Country Club/Mr. Dave Evans for approval of a permanent freestanding monument sign to be placed near the southeast comer of Fred Waring Drive and Washington Street. I. Associate Planner Leslie Mouriquand-Cherry presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Board Member Rice asked if the lighting on the sign would be side lighting. Staff stated it called for ground spot lighting. DRB12-1S 1 Design Review Board Minutes December 15, 1993 3. Board Member Harbison asked if the sign was wood with lucite letters. Staff explained the sign was wood with reverse vinyl letters with the lettering inlaid into the lucite. Discussion followed regarding the letters and the shrubbery to be used. 4. Board Member Anderson asked the applicant to explain what reverse vinyl lettering was. Mrs. Millington, the applicant's representative, explained that the letters were mounted behind the lucite. Board Member Anderson asked if anything could get behind the lucite panel. Mrs. Millington stated she had been told by her contractor that nothing could penetrate the lucite as it would be sealed. Board Member Anderson stated he would like to see a cap added to the sign. 5. Board Member Wright asked what the column material would consist of. The applicant stated it would be concrete. 6. Planning Commissioner Marrs asked if the lights would cause a glare on the lucite. The applicant stated the angle would be such that it would not. 7. Board Member Anderson stated his concern about the lucite material. The applicant stated lucite was the wrong word that it was actually Plexiglas and there would be no shine as it has a matt finish. Board Member Anderson asked if the applicant had considered another material. Discussion followed regarding the material to be used. 8. Board Member Harbison asked if the existing landscape irrigation had been modified so no direct water would hit the sign. The applicant stated they had re-arranged the system to be sure it would not. 9. Board Member Wright asked if this permanent sign would eliminate all the banners, etc., that had been used in the past. The applicant stated no other signs would be used if this sign was approved. Staff clarified for the Board the size of the proposed sign. 10. 4'" There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Board Members Anderson/Rice to recommend approval of Sign Application 93- 235 to the Planning Commission with the stipulation that the sign would be sealed and capped. Unanimously approved with Vice Chairman Campbell abstaining. Vice Chairman Campbell rejoined the meeting. DRB12-15 2 Design Review Board Minutes December 15, 1993 B. Sign Application 93-215. Amendment #1 - Lae:una de la paz: a request of Mr. Roger Snellenberger for approval to amend and relocate the previously approved permanent monument sign for the existing residential development on the west side of Washington Street, north of Eisenhower Drive. 2. DRB12-15 1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. Commissioner Marrs asked if it could be determined how wide the letters would be from the street. Board Member Anderson stated that holding the letters away from the face of the sign would give a three dimensional look. Discussion followed regarding the existing sign and how the letters would be mounted. 3. Board Member Anderson stated his concern for the size of the sign. He felt it needed something at the end of the wall to give an anchor and/or dimension to the sign. He felt there needed to be a base "step-up" to the sign base (a concept sketch was submitted to staff for review). He also felt uplighting to accentuate this proposal would be acceptable. 4. Board Member Wright asked what happened where the wall stops. Discussion followed with staff as to the property to the north should it develop and what would happen to the sign. Board Member Wright felt there should be some type of transition for the new builder. Staff stated that in the past the Engineering Department has discussed extending 48th A venue, west along this area. Members continued to discuss the existing wall. 5. Board Member Wright stated his concern that the sign appeared to be out of balance. Board Member Rice stated the logo gives the appearance of being out of balance. Members discussed different arrangements of the words on the sign. 6. Board Member Anderson suggested the line be extended and center "de la paz" on the second line. He felt a sculpture element (e.g., logo) needed to be added with the addition of a light feature and submitted a suggested design to staff. Discussion followed regarding the added expense this could put on the applicant. 7. Planning Commissioner Marrs asked if there were any objections to the sign as it was proposed. Board Member Anderson stated he did object as it appeared to be a sign stuck on a wall. 3 Design Review Board Minutes December 15, 1993 r - - "(. 8. Staff read into the record Chairman Curtis' comments that he approved the project with staff's recommendations. 9. Following discussion, it was moved and seconded by Board Members Anderson/Wright to recommend denial to the Planning Commission of Sign Application 93-215, Amendment #1, as submitted but provide the applicant with some direction regarding adding more detail to the sign and ask the applicant to resubmit the sign. ROLL CALL VOTE: A YES: Board Members Anderson, Harbison, Wright, Vice Chairman Campbell. NOES: Board Members Rice, Planning Commissioner Marrs. ABSENT: Chairman Curtis. ABSTAIN: None. C. Architectural AODroval; a request of Mr. Jimmy R. Crowell, Century Homes for approval of architectural plans for Phase VII of the La Quinta Highlands Tract 23269 - La Quinta Del Rey. DRB12-15 1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Vice Chairman Campbell asked if Condition #12 pertained to the perimeter wall and shouldn't that be stated in the condition. Staff stated it did pertain to the perimeter wall and they would add it to the condition. 3. Mr. Crowell, the applicant, addressed the Board and gave a description of the project and stated he is working with the property owners in the area so that they would support his project once it went to the Planning Commission. 4. Vice Chairman Campbell asked why he was intending to change the architectural drawings (e.g., Plans 4 and 5L). Mr. Crowell stated he intended to do this during the appeal period as it was costly in addition to the change of the unit mix which occurred because of Ordinances 236 and 240. 5. Vice Chairman Campbell asked if the applicant had any objections to the condition requiring the extension of the eaves. Mr. Crowell stated he had no objections. Board Member Wright stated the drawings did not show the eaves being extended and the air conditioning S.E.E.R. rating was not shown to be 10.0. Mr. Crowell stated he would comply with these requirements during plan check. 4 Design Review Board Minutes December 15, 1993 6. Board Member Anderson asked if the applicant intended to use dormer vents as they would help to break up the roof and enhance the quality of light in the main living space for Plan 5L. Mr. Crowell stated he had already added it to the plans. 7. Board Member Anderson asked about Condition #6 (i.e., roof tile) if the mix would be different. Mr. Crowell stated it would be the same. 8. There being no further questions, it was moved by Board Member Anderson and seconded by Planning Commissioner Marrs to recommend approval of the architectural plans for Phase VII of the La Quinta ~7" 0 Highlands Tract 23269, as conditioned. Unanimously approved. D. Discussion of Develooment Standards I. Staff informed the Board that Chairman Curtis had asked that the Board continue this matter to the next Study Session in order to give everyone time to assimilate the information. 2. Members discussed with staff different points of the standards and ways in which to generate the most interest in the other Commissions and Committee members. 3. Following the discussion it was decided to continue the matter to the next study session and invite at least one member of the Planning Commission and Art in Public Places Committee to attend and give their input. IV. ADJOURNMENT It was moved and seconded by Board Members Anderson/Rice to adjourn to a regular meeting of the Design Review Board on January 5, 1994, at 5:30 P.M. This meeting of the La Quinta Design Review Board was adjourned at 6:56 P.M., December 15, 1993. DRB12-15 5