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1992 11 04 DRB Minutes MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CITY OF LA QUINT A A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California November 4, 1992 5:30 P.M. I. CALL TO ORDER A. Chairman Harbison brought the meeting to order at 5:30 P.M. and Boardmember Campbell led the flag salute. II. ROLL CALL A. Present: Boardmembers Fred Rice, John Curtis, Paul Anderson, Randall Wright, James Campbell, Planning Commission Representative Marrs, and Chairman Harbison. B. Boardmember Curtis moved and Boardmember Rice seconded the motion to excuse Boardmember Anderson. Unanimously approved. C. Staff present: Principal Planner Stan Sawa and Department Secretary Betty Anthony. m. BUSINESS SESSION A. Sign Application 92-185; a request of Albertsons Supermarket for approval of additional building signage in III La Quinta Center on the north side of Highway 111 between Washington Street and Adams Street. 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Boardmember Curtis moved and Boardmember Rice seconded the motion to approve the project subject to Staff recommendation. Chairman Harbison opened the motion for discussion. DRBll-4 1 Design Review Board Minutes November 4, 1992 3. Boardmember Wright inquired if the colors submitted were the original colors approved. Staff stated they were with a slight modification that had been approved by Staff. 3. Boardmember Rice stated he felt it was important for the public to know if a pharmacy was a part of the store. He had no objection to the ancillary signs. 4. Boardmembers Curtis and Anderson stated they were against the additional signage as it was redundant and unnecessary. 5. Terry Wilkins, representing the sign company, addressed the Board as to why the signs should be allowed. 6. Mr. Jeff Derrick, representing Albertsons also spoke regarding the need for the signs. 7. Boardmember Rice asked if the pharmacy was independently owned. Mr. Derrick stated it was not. 8. Chairman Harbison asked how many of the Albertsons stores had pharmacies. Mr. Derrick stated of the 11 stores being constructed presently 6 had pharmacies. 9. Boardmember Rice stated that the City had two hospitals being developed in La Quinta and patients will have a need to find the pharmacies. 10. Boardmember Curtis asked is the signs for the project were in excess of the sign code. Staff stated they were as they had already applied and received a sign adjustment for the main Albertsons sign. Discussion followed as to whether approval of the ancillary signs would create a precedent for other applicants to apply. Staff noted WaI-Mart would undoubtedly request them again. 11. Mr. Tom Childers, representing Washingtonl Adams, stated that at present there were no other tenants who would be asking for additional signage. He felt the board should make a distinction between tenants who make every effort to work with the City and provide a superior product and grant the additional signage as a reward. 12. Boardmember Wright stated his concern for so many exceptions. He felt the tenants should comply with the master plan. DRBll-4 2 Design Review Board Minutes November 4, 1992 13. Chairman Harbison asked if the tile accents on the other buildings could be incorporated into the same area instead of the signs. Discussion followed regarding the number of buildings that had a tile roof. 14. Following the discussion, Chairman Harbison asked for a vote. VOTE: A YES: Boardmember Rice; NOES: Boardmembers Anderson, Curtis, Wright, Campbell, Planning Commissioner Marrs, Chairman Harbison; ABSENT: None; ABSTAIN: None. It was noted that the request is therefore recommended for denial. ", B. Sign Application 92-186; a request of the Auto Club for approval of a sign modification to the sign program at 111 La Quinta Center on the north side of Highway 111 between Washington Street and Adams Street. I. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Planning Commissioner Marrs asked if the logo touched the bottom roof tiles. Staff replied it appeared to be touching but is not because the two surfaces are 6 feet apart. Discussion followed regarding the crowding of the logo with the cornice at the top. 3. Mr. Gary Evans, Facilities Construction Planner for the Auto Club, stated their reasons for designing the sign as they did. 4. Following discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Anderson and seconded by Boardmember Rice to approve the signage as recommended subject to centering the sign between the cornice and tile roof on the north and south elevations only. Unanimously approved. q) . iJ:J 3> C. Plot Plan 91-456; a request of The Koenig Companies to amend a plot plan to reduce the size of a project from 116,600+ square feet to 85,650+ square feet on 9.25 acres located on the northwest comer of Washington Street and Calle Tampico. I. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. DRBll-4 3 Design Review Board Minutes November 4, 1992 2. Boardmember Curtis asked if at anytime any portion of the landscaping would become part of the City's Landscaping and Lighting District for City maintenance. Staff replied that it had been the City's policy to have the developer retain the maintenance of commercial projects. 3. Boardmember Anderson asked Staff to clarify Condition of Approval #3 regarding "decorative texture". Discussion followed as to what Staffs intent was and how to reword the condition. 4. Boardmember Rice inquired if the center had made application to Art in Public Places for any art work. Staff replied this had not been required as of yet. 5. Mr. John Koenig, president of The Koenig Companies, stated the reasons for the reduction in the size and gave a description of the project. He stated he had no objections to Staffs recommendations with the exception of the requirement of Condition #4 for additional architectural treatment on the west side of shop #1. Following discussion as to alternatives, it was decided that a trellis treatment same as that used on the south side of the market would suffice for the present. 6. Mr. Koenig also responded that the reflective pool at the corner of Calle Tampico and Washington Street was being designed to contain a sculpture for their art requirement. He further stated that regarding Condition #3, his intent was to have a smooth texture as he had done for the project in Indian Wells. 7. The Board discussed with the Applicant the requirement of 50% shading required in the parking lot. All stated the difficulty in obtaining the required 50%. 8. Following discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Curtis and seconded by Boardmember Anderson to recommend to the Planning Commission approval of the project subject to Staffs recommendations and with the following modifications: Condition #3: "shall be of an appropriate finish approved by the Design Review Board". Condition #4: Add - "To install a trellis on the west elevation of Shop #1." DRBll-4 4 Design Review Board Minutes November 4, 1992 Condition #6: Add - "This includes the requirement for 50% shading of the parking lot area subject to Staff approval. " ( , Unanimously approved. Boardmember Curtis asked to be excused for a previous appointment. D. Specific Plan 92-022 and Plot Plan 92-456; a request of E.F.P. Corporation to establish development standards for a future shopping center proposed for the northwest comer of Highway III and Jefferson Street. A request to develop a 253,400 square foot commercial shopping center on +20 acres. DRBll-4 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Michael Hurst, architect for the project, gave a review of the project. 3. Boardmembers questioned the architect on various issues such as the stained glass, the shell structure material, awnings material and colors, the neon bars, and the access entries off Jefferson Street. 4. Mr. Ed Carnes, Vice President E.F.P. Corporation, explained to the Board the reason for the redesign of the driveways. 5. Boardmember Wright asked the architect to explain the interior floor treatment in the arcade area. Mr. Hurst replied it was to be of an outdoor patio environment, air conditioned and planted to resemble a tropical oasis. Discussion followed as to the concern regarding the environmental problems this could cause. 6. Boardmember Campbell asked if the applicant had any signage plans. Mr. Hurst stated each tenant would be separate and there would be no exterior directory on the exterior for each of the tenants occupying the arcade. 7. Mr. Carnes addressed the Board regarding the type of factory outlet tenants that would be sought after. 8. Boardmember Anderson expressed his concern that the design of the architecture lacked continuity and was not similar in architecture to what he envisioned to be the image of La Quinta. He felt the project should be traditional or more southwestern or Spanish in design. 5 Design Review Board Minutes November 4, 1992 9. Boardmember Campbell stated he felt the design was alien to La Quinta and he was uncomfortable with the use of neon. 10. Boardmember Rice stated he felt the concept was favorable but the design was to much of a departure from the ambience of La Quinta. 11. Boardmember Anderson asked the architect if he could redesign the project in a more traditional style. Mr. Hurst asked if he meant something like "Hacienda" style. 12. Mr. Carnes stated his concern for being so far off balance in what the Board was looking for and asked for a more specific direction from the Board. Discussion followed regarding the look the Board was desiring. 13. Following discussion it was moved by Boardmember Anderson and seconded by Boardmember Wright to continue the matter to a special meeting of the Design Review Board on November 18, 1992, at 5:30 P.M. and request that the Applicant revise and resubmit a new architectural design in a more traditional style. Unanimously approved. IV. CONSEJIo'T CALENDAR - None V. OTHER A. Department Secretary Betty Anthony informed the members their would be a special meeting regarding Art in Public Places on December 3, 1992. There would be more information at a later date. VI. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Boardmember Rice and seconded by Boardmember Anderson to adjourn to a special meeting of the Design Review Board on November 18, 1992, at 5:30 P.M. This meeting of the La Quinta Design Review Board was adjourned at 8:05 P.M., November 4, 1992. DRBll-4 6