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1991 12 04 DRB Minutes MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CITY OF LA QUINT A A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California December 4, 1991 5:30 P.M. I. CALL TO ORDER A. Chairman Llewellyn brought the meeting to order at 5:35 P.M. and Boardmember Rice led the flag salute. Chairman Llewellyn asked for a roll call. n. ROLL CALL A. Present: Boardmembers David Harbison, Paul Anderson, John Walling, John Curtis, Fred Rice, Planning Commission Representative Donald Mosher, and Chairman Ted Llewellyn. Absent: None Boardmember Walling moved to reorganize the Agenda to add the discussion of the January meeting under Item V., Other. Boardmember Harbison seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. m. CONSENT CALENDAR A. Chairman Llewellyn asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of November 6, 1991 and November 14, 1991. Boardmember Anderson asked that the Minutes of November 6, 1991, be amended on Page 2, A.4, to show that Mr. Skip Berg is the sign contractor not the architect. There being no further changes, Boardmember Rice moved to approve the Minutes as corrected. Boardmember Walling seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. BUSINESS SESSION A. SIGN APPLICATION 91-159; a request of Simon Plaza to install a shopping center identification sign, directional signs, and multiple cabinet building signs for a future office/commercial facility planned on five acres. Boardmember Wa1ling excused himself due to a possible conflict of interest.. DRBM12/4 1 Design Review Board Minutes December 4, 1991 1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Depanment. 2. Boardmember Rice stated his approval of the type of lettering as well as the size. He questioned the location of the lettering in relation to the windows. 3. Boardmember Anderson stated his disapproval of the proposal and felt it was a step backwards. He felt that at the last meeting it was determined not to have the internally illuminated signage because it detracts from the building architecture. He then questioned whether the size of the signs had increased. Discussion followed relative to the size of the signs being increased. 4. Boardmember Anderson clarified his suggestion in regards to the externally illuminated channel letters, and stated he felt a different sign material should be used for the sign. 5. Mr. Skip Berg, sign contractor, presented his arguments for the proposal. 6. Boardmember Anderson expressed his concern for so much internally lit cabinet signage. Discussion followed regarding the surrounding existing and future commercial development signage in this general area. 7. Boardmember Rice stated his approval of the Applicant's proposal. He felt the Applicant had blended his project with what is on the surrounding comers. Discussion followed as to alternative materials. 8. Boardmember Curtis stated his concern for the size of the cabinet signs and that they did not meet the City standards. 9. Boardmember Harbison asked if the sign lighting would provide area lighting. Mr. Berg stated it would provide some area lighting. He then stated the letters would be illuminated and not the background. Boardmember Anderson stated this would be the same as the first proposal submitted. 10. Chairman Uewellyn asked what the seagull on the "Jonathan's. sign represented. Mr. Berg stated it was the company logo. DRBM12/4 2 Design Review Board Minutes December 4, 1991 II. Boardmember Rice asked if each letter was lit would it meet the Sign Regulations. Staff responded it would conform. 12. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Rice and seconded by Planning Commissioner Mosher to adopt Minute Motion 91-042 recommending approval of Sign Application 91-159 with the following conditions: I. Signs consist of individual blue letters internally lit. 2. The style be as exhibited 3. The size of each sign to be within the Sign Regulations. 4. The signs be flush mounted. ROLL CALL: A YES: Boardmembers Harbison, Rice, Curtis, Planning Commissioner Mosher, Chairman Llewellyn. NOES: Boardmember Anderson. ABSTAINING: Boardmember Walling. ABSENT: None. B. SIGN APPLICATION 91-161; a request of Beachside Cafe (Dale Elmer) for approval of new signs for an existing building located at 78-477 Highway III in the Plaza La Quinta Shopping Center. DRBM12/4 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Mr. Rich Durham, Signs by Bull, gave a description of the sign program. 3. Boardmember Rice stated the problems incurred by the previous tenant. Discussion followed as to the sign on the east elevation. It was stated it was too large but due to the driveway and restaurant location, exposure was a problem. Boardmember Rice felt the awning would help draw attention to the building. Discussion followed regarding the material to be used. 4. Boardmember Anderson asked if the .S. on the sign was in a can. Mr. Durham stated it was. 5. Planning Commissioner Mosher asked if the Applicant had any problems with the Staff recommendations. Mr. Durham stated he did not. 3 Design Review Board Minutes December 4, 1991 6. Boardmember Anderson asked what method would be used to get the light up to the face of the wall on the wall mounted sign. Mr. Durham stated the neon tube would be used but would not be visible as it would be camouflaged by the waII covering. It will come from and return to the wall. 7. Boardmember Curtis inquired if the canopy was part of the proposal and expressed his concern for the canopy being able to handle the amount of wind it would be subjected to. Mr. Durham stated it would be constructed according to State and Federal standards and could withstand 90 m.p.h. winds. 8. Boardmember Anderson asked how the sign would be mounted. Mr. Durham stated the material would cover all sides and a raceway would conceal the mechanics of the sign. 9. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Harbison and seconded by Boardmember Walling to adopt Minute Motion 91-043 recommending approval to the Planning Commission of Sign Application 91-161 with Staff recommendations. Unanimously approved. V. OTHER A. Principal Planner Stan Sawa distributed samples of street signs that he had colIected for the Board to review. Discussion folIowed regarding the samples and the costs involved in replacing the signs. 1. Boardmember Anderson stated his desire to see the original obelisk street type signs remain. Discussion followed as to their history, the lettering style, and how many would need to be purchased to cover the Village. 2. FolIowing the discussion it was moved by Boardmember Anderson and seconded by Boardmember Rice to recommend that the original obelisk street signs be used with the inclusion of the quail logo. Unanimously approved. B. Principal Planner Stan Sawa stated the January meeting would normally fall on January I, 1992, the New Year's Holiday, and asked if the Board would like to reschedule the meeting. Chairman Uewe1lyn moved and Boardmember Curtis seconded a motion to schedule the January regular meeting for January 8, 1992. DRBM12/4 4 Design Review Board Minutes December 4, 1991 VI. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Chairman Llewellyn and seconded by Boardmember Anderson to adjourn to a regular meeting of the Design Review Board on January 8, 1992, at 5:30 P.M. This meeting of the La Quinta Design Review Board was adjourned at 6:33. P.M., December 4, 1991. DRBM12/4 5