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1991 11 06 DRB Minutes MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CITY OF LA QUINT A A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall 78-105 Calle Estado, La Quinta, California November 6, 1991 5:30 P.M. I. CALL TO ORDER A. Chairman Rice brought the meeting to order at 5:30 P.M. and Boardmember Anderson led the flag salute. Chairman Rice asked for a roll call. n. ROLL CALL A. Present Boardmembers David Harbison, Paul Anderson, John Walling, John Curtis, Ted Llewellyn, Planning Commission Representative Donald Marrs, and Chairman Rice. m. ELECTION OF OFFICERS A. Chairman Rice opened the nominations for Chairman. Chairman Rice nominated Ted Llewellyn for Chairman, Boardmember Anderson seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Chairman Rice nominated David Harbison as Vice Chairman. Boardmember Llewellyn seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. CONSENT CALENDAR A. Chairman Rice asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes of October 2, 1991. Boardmember Curtis asked that the Minutes be amended on Page 3, C.6, to show that he voted no on Plot Plan 91-466. Boardmember Llewellyn asked that the spelling of his name be corrected. There being no further changes, Boardmember Harbison moved to approve the Minutes as corrected. Boardmember Curtis seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. V. BUSINESS SESSION A. SIGN APPLICATION 91-159; a l'e{)uest of Simon Plaza to install a shopping ORBMIN-ll/6 1 Design Review Board Minutes November 6, 1991 5. 6. 7. 8. DRBMIN-ll/6 center identification sign, directional signs, and multiple building signs for a future office/commercial facility planned on five acres. 1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdel1 presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Boardmember Curtis asked Staff if the sign program had utilized the maximum amount allowed. Staff stated they were within their limits with the overall program. He further asked if this application had been approved by the Planning Commission and if their approval would change the overall sign program they were reviewing. Staff stated the Planning Commission had not seen the program as of yet and the Design Review Board was a recommending body to the Planning Commission. 3. Boardmember Walling stated there was not a need to make detailed approvals for the sign program but approve a generic program that gave guidelines to the Developer to proceed with. 4. Mr. Skip Berg, sign contractor for the project, addressed the Board and gave a brief description of the program. He stated they would stay within the perimeters of what the City allowed. As to the Simon Plaza sign and colors, he stated these were similar to the Simon Motors corporate logo. He stated his only objections to the Staff recommendations were the requests for reverse channel lettering, and the color change. Boardmember Rice stated his approval of the signs and had no objections to the color selected by the Applicant. His concern was for the typeface of the letters. He preferred a less rounding of the letters. Discussion fol1owed with the Applicant relative to letter styles. Chairman Llewellyn stated he had no objection to the color selected by the Applicant. Boardmember Anderson stated his concern for the applied signage to the building. He would rather it be on the ground or walkway. He felt the big blue signs would detract from the building. Discussion followed among the Boardmembers and the Applicant as to various locations. Boardmember Curtis stated he had no objection to the color blue being 2 Design Review Board Minutes November 6, 1991 used, but did feel the letters were to large and would prefer a smaller sign overall. 9. Boardmember Walling stated he had no objection to the height or color, but would prefer the Applicant use up-lighting instead of backlighting to soften the signs. Discussion followed between the Board and the Applicant relative to lighting techniques. 10. Planning Commission Representative Marrs stated his overall approval of the sign program. His concern was for the patrons being able to locate the businesses. He felt the restrictions may be to stringent. II. Following discussion it was moved by Boardmember Rice and seconded by Boardmember Harbison to adopt Minute Motion 91-036 recommending approval of Sign Application 91-159 to the Planning Commission subject to Staff recommendation for the use of reverse channel lettering with external illumination, the typeface lettering not being rounded, and the deletion of the last sentence to Condition #11. Unanimously approved. B. PUBLIC USE PERMIT 91-012; a request of the Boys and Girls Oub of Coachella Valley for approval of plans for a Boys and Girls Club facility. DRBMIN-ll/6 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Reuel Young, architect for the project, presented information and a detailed presentation of the project. 3. Boardmember Rice stated his approval of the project and discussion followed relative to the use of the standing seam metal roof. 4. Boardmember Walling inquired as to the location of the air conditioning and cooler equipment. Mr. Young stated they would be located in the wells of the roof for the most part. 5. Planning Commission Representative Marrs inquired how the gymnasium would be cooled. Mr. Young stated that evaporative coolers would be utilized. Discussion followed as to the cooling of the building, building materials, and the desire for openness. 6. Boardmember Anderson stated he felt the design was well conceived and 3 Design Review Board Minutes November 6, 1991 very well presented. 7. Boardmember Curtis stated his approval of the design and the roof materials being utilized. 8. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Harbison and seconded by Boardmember Curtis adopt Minute Motion 91- 037 recommending approval to the Planning Commission of Public Use Permit 91-012, subject to Staff recommendation. Chairman Llewellyn asked to be excused due to a prior commitment and turned the meeting over to Vice Chairman Harbison. C. SPECIFIC PLAN 89-014 AND PLOT PLAN 90-434; a request of Transpacific Development Company for approval of landscaping plans for the Ill-La Quinta shopping center. DRBMIN-ll/6 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Boardmember Curtis asked if the drive-thru shown on the plans were approved. Staff stated they were not. 3. Mr. Colm Macken, representing TDC the Applicant, spoke regarding the project and introduced Mr. Gary Begin, landscape architect for the project who gave a brief description of the plans. 4. Boardmember Anderson stated his concern for the location of the "Theme Plaza". He felt its location was not accessible to the walking public. 5. Boardmember Harbison asked that the Applicant not use the fescue but rather stay with the Bermuda/Rye grass mix. In addition the irrigation needed to be by conventional spray system with head to head coverage. Discussion followed as to what the plans showed. 6. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Rice and seconded by Boardmember Walling to adopt Minute Motion 91-038 recommending approval of Specific Plan 89-014 and Plot Plan 90-434 to the Planning Commission subject to Staff recommendation and the use of Bermuda/Rye grass mix and changing the lawn irrigation system. Unanimously approved with Chairman Llewellyn absent. 4 Design Review Board Minutes Roveml:er 6, 1991 D. PLOT PLAN 91-468; a request of the Automobile Club of Southern California for approval of architectural and landscaping plans. I. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the Staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning and Development Department. 2. Boardmember Rice inquired of the Applicant if the Automobile Club was moving their Indio office to La Quinta. Mr. Gary Evans, representing the Applicant, stated they would be moving the office. 3. Boardmember Anderson inquired if the internally lit signs were already approved. Staff stated they had been approved as part of the overall project. He stated he would prefer to see the uplighting instead at this location with its close proximity to Highway II I. 4. Mr. Colm Macken, representative of mc, stated they would prefer to stay with the already approved sign program rather than making any changes. 5. Boardmember Curtis asked Staff what the height limitations were for Washington Street. Staff stated there were no limits regarding height, with only a policy for one story buildings within 150 feet of the street. 6. Mr. Dennis Wehmueller, architect for the project, addressed the location of the signs as to the Applicants desire to have them on the parapet. Discussion followed with the Boardmembers as to the location of the signs. 7. There being no further discussion, it was moved by Boardmember Rice and seconded by Boardmember Anderson to adopt Minute Motion 91-039 recommending approval of Plot Plan 91-468 to the Planning Commission. Unanimously approved, subject to Staff recommendations, with Chairman Llewellyn being absent. VI. OTHER A. Boardmember Rice informed the members that the signs for the Marquessa project were a good example for the members to see. He felt the City signs had too much "gingerbread". The consensus of the Board was to put discussion off till the next meeting to give members an opportunity to visit the Marquessa project. DRBMI\i-11/6 5 Design Review Board Minutes November 6, 1991 B. Boardmember Anderson asked what the architects for the Civic Center were doing with the City sign. Staff stated the City Council was asking local architects to submit designs. C. Staff informed the Boardmembers there was a need to have an additional meeting this month. Applications had been submitted but there had not been enough time to process the applications for this meeting. VI. ADJOURNMENT At the request of Staff, it was moved by Boardmember Walling and seconded by Boardmember Rice to adjourn to a special meeting of the Design Review Board on November 14, 1991, at 5:30 P.M. This meeting of the La Quinta Design Review Board was adjourned at 7:09. P.M., November 6, 1991. DRBMIN-ll/6 6