2003 08 06 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Ouinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Ouinta, CA
August 6, 2003
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee
was called to order at 10:06 a.m. by Planning Manager Oscar Orci
who led the flag salute.
B. Committee Members present: Bill Bobbitt, Dennis Cunningham, and
David Thoms.
C. Staff present: Planning Manager Oscar Orci, Associate Planners Greg
Trousdell and Martin Magana, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Staff asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of July 2, 2003.
There being no corrections, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Bobbitt/Thoms to approve the Minutes as submitted.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Site Development Permit 2003-778; a request of Centex Destination
Properties for review of prototype resort residential housing units
which range in size from 1,300 square feet to over 2,000 square feet
in one and two story designs for a 280-unit development on 44.61
acres located west of Eisenhower Drive at Coachella Drive.
1 . Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Forrest
Haag, representing the applicant, who introduced Steve Mudge
of Centex Destination Properties, and William Hezmalhalch and
Diane Hesse architects for the project, who gave a presentation
on the project.
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2. Committee Member Cunningham complimented the applicant on
the presentation and project.
3. Committee Member Thoms asked if the units were rentals or for
purchase. Ms. Hesse explained all the units were for purchase,
similar to the La Quinta Hotel Resort units. The units in the
center of the project can also be rented out by the owners, or
put in the pool for rentals at the La Quinta Hotel. Committee
Member Thoms asked the applicant to explain how a "lockout"
unit. Ms. Hesse explained that each unit is owned by one
owner, but there is a section of the unit that is able to be
locked off from the other section. The owner is then able to
rent either section separate from the other and ultimately have
two renters, if they want.
4. Committee Member Thoms asked what edge treatment would
be used to the north of the project. Mr. Haag stated there is a
block wall and Mr. Hezmalhalch explained there is a 150 foot
setback on the east and in some cases there is landscaping,
maybe a garage access, or a roadway. There is a 60-foot
setback from the mountain edge and transitions with
landscaping. There is an area-wide trails system that follows
along the mountain edge as well. Committee Member Thoms
asked what was proposed for the property to the south. Mr.
Haag stated currently there will be a wall until the owner
develops the site. Depending on what the La Quinta Hotel, the
owner, chooses to do with the site, it may have some
recreational uses that will be used by both developments.
5. Committee Member Thoms asked how many units would not
have garages. Mr. Mudger stated all units have garages. The
townhouse all have two car garages, all other units have one
car attached, or detached garages, or covered carports. In
addition, a portion of the additional parking areas will be
covered. They will be constructed to be architecturally
compatible with the units. Committee Member Thoms was
concerned as to who would be responsible for maintaining the
landscaping. Mr. Mudge stated it would be maintained by the
homeowners' association.
6. Committee Member Bobbitt noted some trees that should be
eliminated from the plant list due to the large amount of tree
litter and the maintenance.
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7. There being no further questions, it was moved and seconded
by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute
Motion 2003-031 approving Site Development Permit 2003-
778, as recommended by staff and amended as follows:
a. Condition added: The following trees shall be eliminated
from the plant list: Fraxinus Uhdei (Evergreen Ash).
Lagerstroemia indica (Crape Myrtle). Olea europaea
(Olive). Ulmus parvifolia (Elm). and Brachychiton
populneus (Bottle Tree).
Unanimously approved.
B. Site Development Permit 2003-779; a request of M.D.S. Consulting
for Nadador, LLC, for review of one prototype single story house plan,
private clubhouse building and common area landscaping for a 32 unit
residential development on approximately 21.3 acres located
southeast corner of PGA Boulevard and Avenue 54.
1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Mr.
Forrest Haag, representing the applicant, who introduced Mr.
Frank Stoltz, South Coast Architects, who gave a presentation
on the project.
2. Committee Member Cunningham noted the comment regarding
individual window panes where they will use the "snap-on"
style. He would prefer they not use the "snap-on grid"
windows. Planning Manager Oscar suggested it state true
divided light. Committee Member Cunningham asked that the
roof be composed of a single, one piece, mudded tile.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked that the same trees
eliminated from the prior project be eliminated from this project.
He also asked if the welcome center would be removed. Mr.
Haag stated yes. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if they
would be required to have another well site. Mr. Haag stated
the well site was dedicated a long time ago, but has not been
used. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the water retention
would be on the interior of the project. Mr. Haag stated that
was correct. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if there would
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be access to the existing well site, where the telephone
equipment is, from the interior of the project. Mr. Haag stated
yes, there would be.
4. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Cunningham to
adopt Minute Motion 2003-032 approving Site Development
Permit 2003-779, as recommended by staff and amended:
a. Condition added: Window panes shall not be the "snap-
on grid" windows, but rather the true divided light
b. Condition added: Roof material shall be composed of a
single, one piece, mudded tile.
c. Condition added: Decorative chimney caps shall be used.
d. Condition added: The following trees shall be eliminated
from the plant list: Fraxinus Uhdei (Evergreen Ash),
Lagerstroemia indica (Crape Myrtle), Olea europaea
(Olive), Ulmus parvifolia (Elm), and Brachychiton
populneus (Bottle Tree).
Unanimously approved.
C. Site Development Permit 2003-782; a request of Madison Estates,
LLC for review of three prototype house plans and landscaping for a
76-lot single family development on 29 + acres located on the north
side of Avenue 58 and Y, mile west of Madison Street.
1 . Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Steve
Cameron of Southwest Construction, and Chris Dyson of
Madison Estates, who gave a presentation on the project.
2. Committee Member Cunningham complimented the applicant on
the project.
3. Committee Member Thoms asked if they were using stamped
concrete driveways. Mr. Cameron stated they were proposing
to use the stamped, Bell Garden material which would be a
paver, and acid-wash concrete bands. They want to give the
homeowner a choice of pavement material. Committee Member
Thoms recommended they not use the traditional stamped
concrete, but instead use concrete that is implanted with
bominite the material using the rubber mats. Mr. Cameron
stated they would not.
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4. Committee Member Bobbitt commented. that they pay a lot of
attention to the vapor barriers on their slabs as well as the sand
bases. In regard to the cement, he would recommend they use
the 3,000 pound or better. They have had a lot of problems
due to the salty nature of the soil. Mr. Cameron stated they are
doing a lot of testing to ensure no problems. Committee
Member Bobbitt asked about the materials to be used on the
trellis. Mr. Cameron stated they are doing the same as what
has been done by Toll Brothers. They will also be using the
cedar garage doors with a pretreated finish material, so there
will be no warping. For the trellis they are using Douglas fir,
but they want the Stone Creek look with the cracks and
twisting of the wood.
5. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Thoms/Cunningham to
adopt Minute Motion 2003-033 approving Site Development
Permit 2003-782, as recommended by staff and as amended:
a. Condition added: Stamped concrete shall not be used for
the driveways.
Unanimously approved.
D. Site Development Permit 2003-780 and 2003-781; a request of Code
Murphy, LLC/Kleine Building and Development for review of
architectural and landscaping plans for two, single story office
buildings within the La Guinta Corporate Centre located southeast of
the corner of Corporate Centre Drive and Commerce Court.
1 . Assistant Planner Martin Magana presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Neil
Kleine, developer, who gave a presentation on the project.
2. Committee Member Thoms stated he would prefer a different
color be used on the buildings.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt concurred as he thought the color
would date the building.
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4. Committee Member Thoms asked that the cobble stone be
eliminated from the triangular planters and they be a more
simple design.
5. Committee Member Cunningham stated that when you float the
columns, the area under the columns becomes a nuisance. Mr.
Kleine explained how they would be constructed.
6. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to
adopt Minute Motions 2003-034 and 2003-035 approving Site
Development Permit 2003-780 and Site Development Permit
2003-781, respectively, as recommended by staff and
amended:
a. Condition added: The two major colors shall be changed
to a more conservative color scheme.
b. Condition added: The triangular islands in front of the
building shall have a more simple design.
Unanimously approved.
E. Site Development Permit 2003-784; a request of Toll Brothers,
Inc./RNM Architects for review of architectural and landscaping plans
for 50, two story condominium units located on the east side of
Jefferson Street, south of Pomelo, within Mountain View Country
Club.
1. Associate Planner Martin Magana presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department Department and
introduced Mr. Gary Lemon of Mountain View and Rick
Blackshere, RNM Architects.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if these units were included
in the original Specific Plan. Staff stated yes. Committee
Member Bobbitt stated they need to be sensitive to not block
any views and decrease the property values from the single-
family homes in proximity. Mr. Gary Lemon stated the CC&R's
discloses the condos to the homeowners. Rick Blackshere,
RNM Architects, gave a presentation on the architecture.
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3, Committee Member Thoms asked staff to explain the circulation
of the project, which they did,
4, Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the material on the
windows was a composite. Mr. Blackshere stated they were.
5. Committee Member Cunningham asked what material would be
used on the courtyards. Mr. Blackshere stated it would be
pavers.
6. There being no further questions, it was moved and seconded
by Committee Members Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute
Motion 2003-036 recommending approval of Site Development
Permit 2003-784, as recommended. Unanimously approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS:
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Cunningham/Thoms to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural
and Landscaping Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on September
3, 2003. This meeting was adjourned at 11 :48 a.m. on August 6, 2003.
Respectfully submitted,
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A WYER, Executive Secretary
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