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2002 06 05 ALRC Minutes MINUTES ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING A regular meeting held at the La Ouinta City Hall 78-495 Calle Tampico, La Ouinta, CA ., June 5, 2002 1'0:00 a:m. I. CALL TO ORDER A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Committee was called to order at 10:07 a.m. by Principal Planner Stan Sawa who led the flag salute. B. Committee Members present: Dennis Cunningham, Bill Bobbitt, and David Thoms. C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Management Analyst Debbie Powell, Principal Planners Stan Sawa and Fred Baker, Associate Planners Greg Trousdell, Wallace Nesbit, and Martin Magana, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer. II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None. III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed. IV. CONSENT CALENDAR: A. Community Development Director Jerry Herman asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of May 5, 2002. There being no corrections, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to approve the Minutes as submitted. V. BUSINESS ITEMS: A. Site Development Permit 2002-728; a request of Stamko Development Company to review enhanced landscaping plans for the area in front of the new Walmart building and at the Centre at La Ouinta Centre Drive entry located at the southeast corner of Highway 111 and La Ouinta Centre Drive. Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes. June 5, 2002 1 . 'Community Development Director Jerry Herman presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. ~ .....' 2. Mr. George Sicrea, architect for the project, gave a presentation on the project. 3. Committee Member Thoms asked about the height of the gas station signs. Staff noted it was an issue for the Planning Commission. Committee Member Thoms asked if the band was natural in color. Mr. Sic rea sated it was a French gray color to accommodate the heavy traffic. The landscaping planting is similar to the Auto Center but more massing with the lantana or blooming shrubs. 4.t~mmittee Bobbitt asked if the landscaping would block the view at the entrance. Mr. Sicrea stated that without the big shrubs the views are safe. Plan check procedures will verify the safety concerns. 5. Committee Member Thoms asked for one more date palm on each side of the entrance. Mr. Sicrea stated it would take shuffling to ,accommodate more trees. 6. Ms. Chris Clarke, project developer, stated it is a right in to the center so they need to be careful with the distance on the south side of the property to accommodate the right turn in. The added landscaping may block the views. Mr. Russ Beckner, representing the developer, stated he also had a concern as to whether or not there was enough room for the light fixtures. 7. Committee Member Cunningham stated his concern was that the extra trees may crowd the area. 8. Community Development Director Jerry Herman asked if the Committee had any concerns regarding the proposed changes to the Walmart frontage landscaping. Mr. Sicrea gave a presentation on the landscaping plan. G:\ WPDOCS\ALRC\6.5.02. WPD 2 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 9. Committee Member Bobbitt stated there is always a problem with plant material in planters as they are never maintained properly. 10. Committee Member Thoms stated planters witll lantana do not last. He would recommend vines be used on the columns, but leave the ground shrubs in front of the store. Eliminate the plants and place a picket with vines on the columns. 11 . Committee Member Bobbitt stated his concern was with the size of the planters containing the trees in the parking lot. They need to be larger to allow growth and staking. The minimum size s,hould be at least 8 feet by 8 feet. Ms. Clarke stated the only reason they are back before the Committee is for review and approval of the enhanced entrance landscaping. They were not required to upgrade the landscaping in front of Walmart and did so at their own option based on a request by the City Council. They have approval of the entire site. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he understands, but every project has this problem, and the City has conditioned the project for 50% shade and it is a waste of money to plant trees when there is not enough room for them to grow. Ms. Clarke stated she was proud of the Auto Mall landscaping and this site will be developed the same. Lowe's landscaping was well planned and constructed; Walmart had 'different standards. 12. Committee Member Cunningham stated this is an Issue where staff could present alternatives to the ALRC 13. Community Development Director Jerry Herman confirmed the conditions: 1) no lantana in front of the building; 2) add vines on the columns; and 3) add two palm trees on the north and south side of the island at the entrance. 14. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-020 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-728, subject to the conditions as submitted and amended: A. Lantana would not be planted in the front of the Walmart building. B. Pickets with vines would be added to the columns on the G:\WPDOCS\ALRC\6-5-02.WPD 3 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 front of the building. C. Two palm trees shall be added on the north and south side~ of the island at the entrance to the site. Unanimously approved. B. Site Development Permit 2001-738; a request of Affiliated Construction/Prest Vuksic Architects, for review of architectural and landscaping plans for a 4,500 square foot two story office building in the La Guinta Professional Plaza located at the southeast corner of Ave"!ue 4 7 and Washington Street. 1 . Committee Member Thoms withdrew due to a possible conflict of ' interest and left the meeting. 2. Committee Member Cunningham asked if the dark brown wall on the east elevation was offset of Building 4. Mr. Vuk,sic, archite~t for the project, stated no, it is set up as a property line )IV,all. Committee Member Cunningham stated the east elevation will eventually have another building attached; Parcel 3. Until it is constructed it has a round element and relief metal to soften t~e look. 3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if there were any provision'to soften the wall if Parcel 3 is not built for an extended period of time. Mr. Vuksic stated not at this time. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he has no issues. 4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 2002-021 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-738, subject to the conditions as submitted. Unanimously approved with Committee Member Thoms being absent. C. Site Development Permit 2001-743; a request of Mel Rudman/Prest Vuksic Architects, for review of architectural and landscaping plans for a 5,063 square foot two story office building in the La Guinta Professional Plaza located at the southeast corner of Avenue 47 and Washington Street. Parcel 5 1. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 4 G ,\ WPDOCS\ALRC\6-5-02 ,WPD Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 " 2. Mr. John Vuksic, Prest/Vuksic Architects, gave a presentation on the project. . 3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if this building and the one just approved were two different buildings. Mr. Vuksic explained the site construction as being individual lots that will eventually be joined together, but have different owners. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if there were any setbacks. Staff noted there are. no setbacks; fire walls are required. There are two different projects at the same location with different applicants. It will eventually appear to be one building. 4. Committee Member Cunningham stated he likes the outer perimeter of the project. The effect on the outside community is broken up architecturally and well done. He asked if. the doors on the east elevation were utility doors. Mr. Vuksic stated the:y .are utility doors. Committee Member Cunningham asked that this elevation be given additional architectural detail perhaps using metal, or projections to keep them from being unsightly. On t~e site plan there should be no ability to have outdoor storage. Make sure curbing and planting areas are done to discourage .~he stacking of boxes. On the northern elevation he likes the 45 degree soffit and recessed boxes to break up the stucco. He presumes they will use color for accent. Mr. Vuksic stated they were proposing color and texture. Committee Member Cunningham stated he likes the colored railings. The building will add to the community. Stated his only concern was that the color be used correctly. 5. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he likes the architecture. He has no further comments except to be sure that any date palms used be 15-20 feet and of good quality and not stressed to lose their crown. 6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 2002-022 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-743, subject to the conditions as submitted. Unanimously approved with Committee Member Thoms being absent. A. Condition: Add additional architectural detail to the utility doors. G:IWPDOCSIALRCI6-5-02.WPD 5 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 Committee Member Thoms rejoined the Committee. D. Site Development Permit 2001-739; a request of Summit Team Inc. (David lsraelsky/Fleming Associates). for review of architectural and landscaping plans for a 5,839 square foot one story commercial building located west side of Washington Street, north of Calle,-Tampico, within the La Guinta Village Shopping Center. . 1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Mr. David Israelsky, owner of the project, gave a presentation. 3. Committee Member Thoms asked if there was a patio on the east side. Staff stated yes with outdoor seating. Committee Member Thoms asked where the trash enclosure was located. Staff stated they would be on the westerly side. Committee Member Thoms stated the patio terrace was plain and should be improved with paving, texture, marking, or scoring. Staff noted it is outside the 20-foot setback area. Committee Member Thoms stated it could be undulated in and out and add some imagination along the east property line to give it some kind of enhancement. 4. Committee Member Cunningham agreed. It is not inviting and if it . were enhanced it would be an improvement. Smaller than 10 feet will be a problem. 5. Committee Member Thoms stated it does not need to be as long. It could go north, the south end could go north of the electrical area and create a larger landscape area. Along the eastern edge there could be small pockets with smaller trees and paving strips. It needs to be more people oriented. Staff stated they would prefer to change the hedge between the two doors and allow extra hardscape and have a curb section between the two doors. 6. Committee Member Bobbitt agreed, but did not want to design it for the applicant. He asked what the setback requirements were in regard to hardscape. Staff noted there are none in this area. 7. Committee Member Cunningham asked that the applicant enhance the patio area and take out the linear look and if it needed to be in the required setback area, work it out with staff and do decorative concrete. G:\ WPDOCS\ALRC\6-5-02. WPD 6 Architectural & Laridscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 8. ' There being no further discussion, it was moved, and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-023 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-739, subject to the conditions as submitted. ~ .\.' A. Condition: enhance patio area to take out linear look and if it is in the required setback area, resolve it with staff. B. Add decorative concrete. 9. Unanimously approved. E. Site Development Permit 2001-741; a request of Michael Shovlin for Big 5 for review of architectural and landscaping plans for 9,600 square foot commercial building in the La Quinta' Professional Plaza located at the southeast corner of Avenue 478 and Washington Street. 1. Principal Planner Stan Saw a presented the information contained in " the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Co~mittee Member Bobbitt stated that even with the planters there is not enough room for the trees. They need to be careful with pockets/planters as they become trash containers. Pockets are not enough. 3. Committee Member Thoms stated the two outer columns should have the vines planted to enhance the look. 4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 2002-024 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-741, subject to the conditions as amended. A. Condition to add vines to columns Unanimously approved. F. Site Development Permit 2002-742; a request of Toll Brothers for review of architectural and landscaping plans for the prototype residential units and golf course maintenance building for Mountain View Country Club located at the northeast corner of Jefferson Street and Avenue 52 within Tract 30357. GoIWPDOCSIALRCI6-5-02. WPD 7 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 1 . Associate Planner Martin Magana presented the informatio.~ contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Mr. Forrest Haag, architect for the project, gave a presE1ntation on the project. 3. Committee Member Cunningham stated his only concern is that if the maintenance facility were set back, it would be better. He questioned the elevation difference between the building and the road and asked if their is enough berming. Mr. Haag stated it is away from the six foot wall and will have 22. feet of berming setback 50 feet from the street. 4. Committee Member Cunningham asked if there were any visibility issues from the westerly traffic. Mr. Haag stated th,ere is a blo<;:k wall next to the CVWD access wall. Committee Me(T1per Cunningham asked the height of the dumpster and carport. Mr. Haag stated no higher than 6 feet. 5. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the exterior would be painted. Mr. Haag stated it will be painted. 6. Committee Member Thoms asked if the City approves of metal buildings. Staff noted they have been allowed. The setback is an advantage. 7. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if any consideration was given to another entrance at the eastern end. Mr. Haag stated no. 8. Committee Member Thoms asked about the fencing material on the interior. Mr. Haag stated it is chain-link only on the interio(of the yard. Committee Member Thoms asked the purpose of the parking. Mr. Haag, explained it was for employee parking. Committee Member Thoms stated there was no room for the trees with the overhang. Mr. Haag stated the spaces are 18-feet with a 1 .5 foot overhang which should allow room for the trees. 9. Committee Member Cunningham stated a consideration should be given to plant material along the All American Canal, or make the carport architecturally appeasing. G:\ WPDOCS\ALRC\6- 5-02. WPD 8 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 10. Committee Member Thoms asked about the entry gates between the walls. Mr. Haag stated there will be gates that are steel to emulate the wall for security. "".' . 11 . Committee Member Thoms stated he has a problem with chain-link along the gates. The applicant needs to add black vinyl fabric for the fence. 12. Committee Member Bobbitt questioned some of the plant material. 13. . There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 2002-025 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-742, subject to the conditions as amended: A. Enhance the landscaping along the All American Canal side for view. B. Add black vinyl fabric to the chain-link fence in the employee parking lot. Unanimously approved. Staff gave a presentation on the Commercial Property Improvement Program as requested by the Committee. G. Continued - Commercial Property Improvement Program 2002-012; a request of Scott Wilson for funding of landscaping/hardscape improvements for the property located at 78-150 Calle Tampico. 1. Management Analyst Debbie Powell presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Committee Members discussed the proposal as presented. 3. Committee Member Thoms stated he was concerned that the east side of property was not addressed in the applicant's request and should be included in this project. Mr. Wilson stated he now owns the entire site and would consider this area. G:\ WPDOCSIALRCI6.5.02. WPD 9 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 4. Committee Member Bobbitt asked what he expects to do with this portion of the site. Mr. Wilson stated that until they have a tenant they will not know what will be done. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if it could be cleaned up. Mr. Wilson stated this could be done. 5. Committee Member Thom asked about the area between the wall and the curb. Mr. Wilson asked if the Bougainville could be used on Desert Club as well. Committee Member Thoms stated it should be the same as the east side. 6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members to adopt Minute Motion 2002-026 approving CPIP 2002-012 with a score of 80. Unanimously approved. H. Commercial Property Improvement Program 2002-016; a request of Canali Ent. LLC-Ed Cosek for funding of landscaping improvements for the property located at 78-121 Avenida La Fonda. ' 1 . Management Analyst Debbie Powell presented the infor(T1ation contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Committee Member Thoms asked why the Committee was hot reviewing the building elevations. It was explained it was a remodel of an existing building. The request before them was for the landscaping. 3. Committee Member Thoms stated that on Avenida La Fonda the palms are mixed and very close and could be a problem. In the rear the Acacia is jammed in an area where they cannot grow. 4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 2002-027 approving CPIP 2002-016 with a score of 90. Unanimously approved. VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None G:\ WPDOCS\ALRC\6- 5-02. WPD 10 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes June 5, 2002 VIII. ADJOURNMENT: " There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee Mell)bers Bobbitt/Cunningham to adjourn this regular meeting. of the Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on July 3, 2002, This meeting was adjourned at 1 :04 p,m, on June 5, 2002. Respectfully submitted, y BE T AWYER, Executive Secretary City of La Quinta, California G:\ WPDOCS\ALRC\6- 5-02. WPD 1 1