2002 04 03 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Guinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Guinta, CA
April 3, 2002
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Committee was called
to order at 10:07 a.m. by Principal Planner Stan Sawa who led the flag
salute.
B. Committee Members present: Bill Bobbitt, and David Thoms. It was
moved and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Thoms to excuse
Committee Member Cunningham. Unanimously approved.
C. Staff present: Management Analyst Debbie Powell, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa, Associate Planners Wallace Nesbit and Martin Magana, and
Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
A. It was moved and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Thoms to
reorganize the agenda to take Item "D" first. Unanimously approved.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Principal Planner Stan Sawa asked if there were any changes to the
Minutes of March 13, 2002. There being no corrections, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Thoms to approve the
Minutes as submitted.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
D. Site Develooment Permit 2001-731; a request of WG Properties, LLC for
review of architectural and landscaping plans for a medical/office building
consisting of 8,792 square feet to be located on the east side of
Washington Street, north of Lake La Guinta Drive.
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1 . Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Committee Member Thoms asked about the location of the trash
enclosure. Mr. Robert Ricciardi, architect for the project,
explained its location. Committee Member Thoms asked that the
trash enclosure on Caleo Bay be relocated. Mr. Ricciardi agreed.
Committee Member Thoms agreed with staff's recommendation
on the street scape landscape design. He does not want to see
parcels of property on the east frontage having different landscape
schemes. Mr. Ricciardi explained it was the same on Washington
Street. Committee Member Thoms explained the streetscape on
the east side, Caleo Bay, should be compatible with the
streetscape is to the north and south. The restaurant and this
project should complement each other in regard to the
landscaping. Discussion followed regarding the existing landscape
material and the proposed.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the vacant pad on the site
would be landscaped and who would maintained it. Mr. Ricciardo
stated it would be landscaped and maintained.
4. Committee Member Thoms asked about the contents of the
retention basin as he did not think it was consistent with what
was to the north and south along Washington Street and Caleo
Bay.
5. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he would like to see some turf.
In regard to the architecture, he has no objections as he thinks it
will blend in with the surrounding buildings.
6. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Bobbitt/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-
011 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-
732, subject to the conditions as submitted and amended:
A. Additional turf to parkways.
B. Landscaping to complement the landscaping to the north
and south along Caleo Bay
C. The trash enclosure shall be relocated away from Caleo
Bay.
Unanimously approved.
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B. Commercial Prooertv Imorovement Program 2002-015; a request of Lori
Abdelnour, Allstate Insurance for a funding request for exterior
improvements for the property located at 551-650 Avenida Bermudas.
1 . Management Analyst Debbie Powell presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if there would be some
landscape renovation. Ms. Abdelnour stated yes, it would.
Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the doors and exterior work
would be refinished. Ms. Abdelnour stated the windows would be
replaced with glass. The roof would be fixed as well as other
repairs. The color would be the original color as recommended by
Historic Preservation Commission. She would like to use awnings,
but she is trying to match what was there in the 1940's and add
texture to the rear of the building.
3. There being no discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Members Thoms/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion
2002-012 approving Commercial Property Improvement Program
request of Lori Abdelnour, Allstate Insurance with a score of 95.
Unanimously approved.
C. Site Development Permit 2001-732; a request of Southern California
Presbyterian Homes for review of architectural and landscaping plans for
an 81 unit senior apartment complex located at the southwest corner of
Avenue 47 and Adams Street.
1. Associate Planner Martin Magana presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if this project had been
discussed with the Lake La Quinta Homeowners' Association.
Staff explained this project had addressed the issues raised by the
surrounding property owners. Committee Member Bobbitt asked
about the material to be used on the carports. Staff stated they
would be prefabricated metal with metal canopies. Committee
Member Bobbitt stated the material should be something more
than a metal prefab carport design, that would fit in more with the
architecture of the buildings and surrounding homes. They should
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be given more architectural treatment. He asked if there was an
issue with the Oleander hedge. Staff stated it was intended to
stay as it is currently.
3. Mr. Michael Matalon, architect for the project, stated they have
not met with any of the property owners. In their discussions
with staff, this project was half the density of the previous project
and the buildings are a lot further away from their perimeter road.
Committee Member Bobbitt stated it would be wise for them to
meet with the property owners to ensure there are no issues.
4. Committee Member Thoms agreed with the continuation of the
wall down Avenue 47. He asked what enclosure would be
constructed along the southern boundary in addition to the
Oleander hedge. Staff stated the hedge would remain and berms
added. Mr. Tom Doczi, TKD Associates, landscape architect for
the project, stated there is an Oleander hedge with chain-link
fence that secures the site. Committee Member Thoms stated it
is a wire fence not chain-link. Mr. Doczi stated they intended to
keep the hedge as it is for privacy. To remove would substantailly
open the project up, but a solid wall would close the project in.
Committee Member Thoms agrees with the hedge remaining the
same, but it needs additional security. Mr. Doczi suggested
installing wrought iron at this location.
5. Committee Member Bobbitt stated his problem is the Zielella
bacteria infection prevalent in the Valley, which would kill the
Oleander hedge. Would the property owners at that time be able
to replace the fence? Mr. Doczi stated they could start a back-up
planting in case this were to happen to replace the Oleanders. In
addition, a wrought iron fence or wall could be installed.
Committee Member Bobbitt asked where the irrigation water was
coming from. Mr. Doczi stated it is currently coming from Lake La
Guinta project and would have to be the responsibility of the
applicant.
6. Committee Member Thoms asked what is along the southeast
boundary. Mr. Matalon stated that if a second landscaping buffer
is installed it would be continued to tie back in with the existing
wall on the east property line. The wall would have to be
recessed .10 feet to allow for the drainage easement.
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7. Committee Member Thoms asked what the applicant was referring
to when they stated "Natural" landscape. Mr. Doczi stated it
would be a desert landscape. Committee Member Thoms asked
what is to be used on the ground to stabilize it and keep the
blowing sand down. Mr. Doczi stated a combination of ground
cover and stabilizer for the soil. In some areas they could use
decomposed granite. Committee Member Thoms stated he would
not want it to be weeds and tumbleweeds. Mr. Matalon stated it
is to be an active site for the project with a walking trail.
8. Committee Member Bobbitt stated that if soil stabilization is used,
the walkers will break it up. He would recommend heavier
planting. Mr. Doczi stated they would look at adding more plants
with the decomposed granite. Committee Member Bobbitt stated
that as far as the architecture, he has no issues.
9. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the removal of the
wrought iron fencing. He has a problem with the maintenance of
them and would prefer a the solid wall. Mr. Matalon stated they
would like visibility in and out of the site as well and a solid wall
would eliminate this. They would recommend constructing a solid
wall for the first couple feet and then pilasters with the wrought
iron. Committee Member Bobbitt stated it is an attractive wall,
but keep it out of the irrigation. Mr. Doczi sated there could be a
planter area and bring some turf panels to visually soften the look.
10. Committee Member Thoms suggested vines growing on the fence.
11. Committee Member Bobbitt suggested the wrought iron be fully
welded all the way around to prevent moisture from getting in.
12. Committee Member Thoms recommended the southeast property
line be enclosed and the natural area stabilized. He asked what
type of lighting was proposed. Mr. Matalon stated there would be
lighting within the carports with perimeter light fixtures. He is
unaware what the bulb will be. Committee Member Thoms
recommended low sodium lights be used.
13. Committee Member Thoms asked about the retention basin
material. Mr. Doczi stated soil stabilization and ground cover.
14. Committee Member Thoms asked about the type of tile to be used
on the roof. Mr. Matalon stated there are two different types of
tile.
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15. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Bobbitt/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-
013 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-
732, subject to the conditions as submitted and amended:
A. The proposed pre-fabricated metal carports shall have a
similar appearance to the buildings. These materials and
colors shall match those of the proposed buildings on site.
B. A six foot high block wall with stucco finish shall be
installed along the southeast property boundary where the
drainage easement is located and tie into the existing wall
on the eastern boundary. Said wall shall match the existing
materials as the existing wall on the eastern boundary.
C. The proposed parking lot lights shown on Sheet E2 of the
plan set, shall be amended to include low sodium instead of
high sodium lights.
D. The northern boundary of the site shall have a combination
of a six foot high, stucco wall and wrought iron fence. Said
wall shall have a two foot high block wall with stucco and
stucco pilasters every 18 feet on center with wrought iron
in between the pilasters. The stucco wall/wrought iron
fence shall be painted to match the colors of the proposed
buildings.
Unanimously approved.
D. Site Develooment Permit 2002-733; a request of SECO/SDC, LLC/A.G.
Spanos Construction, Inc. for review of architectural and landscaping
plans for a 120 room, 1-3 story hotel to be located on the east side of
Washington Street, north of Avenue 48.
1. Associate Planner Martin Magana presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Committee Member Thoms asked if there was a color board. Staff
stated not as this time. Only a colored elevation. Committee
Member Thoms asked what type of stone would be used. Mr.
Lew Bishop stated it is a Chardonnay mixed stone of regular
shapes and done in the northern Italian style. They want variety
and will be using three different stones to be more irregular. It is
a manufactured stone. They want a very old look to the stone and
the joints do not show. As far as the colors, it will range from
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light tans to off white to deep oranges and browns for the stucco.
It will have a sand finish and three different kinds of exterior
finishes.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt questioned the shade covers over the
rooms. Mr. Bishop stated they would be metal (alumawood). The
railing would be the same material. Committee Member Bobbitt
stated his only concern in regard to this product is that it holds up
and that it can dent very easily. Mr. Bishop stated where people
come in contact with it, they would use iron. Mr. William Swank,
owner of the project, gave examples of the problems they have
had with the product.
4. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he liked the landscaping. Mr.
Bishop stated the object is to accommodate the needs of the
transient occupancy. Once you layout enough deck area for 100
people to lay in the sun, there isn't much left. They will provide
the specifics at a later date for review.
5. Committee Member Thoms stated his concern is the same problem
that it match the landscaping match the adjoining properties on
the perimeter on Washington Street and Caleo Bay.
6. Committee Member Thoms asked if this project drained into the
Lake at Lake La Guinta. Mr. Bishop stated it will. They have
relocated the retention basin to accommodate the flow.
7. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Thoms/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion 2002-
014, recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-
733, subject to the conditions as submitted and amended:
A. The streets cape along Washington Street shall maintain the
existing landscaping and Caleo Bay shall be compatible with
the projects to the north and south.
Unanimously approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None
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VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members
BobbittlThoms to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping
Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on May 3, 2002. This meeting was
adjourned at 11 :20 p.m. on April 3, 2002.
Respectfully submitted,
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City of La Guinta, California
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