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2002 02 13 ALRC Minutes MINUTES ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING A regular meeting held at the La Guinta City Hall 78-495 Calle Tampico, La Guinta, CA February 13, 2002 10:00 a.m. I. CALL TO ORDER A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Committee was called to order at 10:06 a.m. by Principal Planner Stan Sawa who led the flag salute. B. Committee Members present: Dennis Cunningham and David Thoms. It was moved and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to excuse Committee Member Bobbitt. Unanimously approved. C. Staff present: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, Principal Planner Stan Sawa, Planning Consultant Nicole Criste, and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer. II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None. III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed. IV. CONSENT CALENDAR: A. Principal Planner Stan Sawa asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of January 16, 2002. Commissioner Thoms requested that his name be spelled correctly on Page 2, Item #2. There being no further corrections, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to approve the Minutes as submitted. V. BUSINESS ITEMS: A. ~Dital Improvement Proiect 2001-14; a request of the City for review of architectural and landscaping plans for a new fire station to be located on the west side of Adams Street, north of Miles Avenue. 1. Consultant Planner Nicole Criste presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. G:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2-13-02.wpd 1 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes February 13, 2002 2. Committee Member Cunningham asked if the roof proposed was standing seam metal roof. Mr. Jerrin Chu, WLC Architects, architects the project, stated originally there were two options; one with the concrete tile and one standing seam roof. Committee Member Cunningham stated his concern was that there is a lot of roof and with the standing seam metal roof there is a lot more shadow line with rifts. There should be a color chosen that would create a little excitement to the building. This area of the City has a lot of housing developments with a few non-residential buildings, such as the school with a contemporary building that takes away the constant red tile roof look. This is an opportunity to create a little lightness to tie in with the school and the other buildings to bring color to the area. The concrete tile would be dull. If the standing seam is used, it should not be gray in color either, but maybe something in the oxide reds, or maybe green to bring color. The landscaping lends to the area. Mr. Chu stated originally they had two options presented to the Council; standing seam and concrete tile. The Council chose the gray cement tile to be compatible in the area. At the same time they wanted to match the local community and the church and therefore, they went with the concrete tiles. Committee Member Cunningham stated he did not know if it was within the Committee's prevue to ask Council to revisit the subject with the ALRC input. It is a strong structure and the idea of compatibility does not necessarily mean it needs to be the same to be compatible. To have it blend in is a mistake. It needs its own identity. He would ask that the City Council reconsider their suggestion. 3. Committee Member Thoms sated he did not know if he could support that comment. This project is adjacent to a church parking lot, then the church further to the south and to the north is an open park. On the east side is residential, so this would stand out in the streetscape and the City would be criticized if we took a City project and allowed a metal roof where there is no justification other than some shadow lines. 4. Committee Member Cunningham asked Committee Member Thoms if he thought the tile proposed was the right kind and color. With each member making opposite comments, there needs to be some direction to the architect and Council. G:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2-13-02. wpd 2 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes February 13,2002 5. Committee Member Thoms stated he did not think a public building should not necessarily try to be in contrast to what the neighborhood is. It does not need to stand out as a prominent item. He has no issue with the red tile. 6. Committee Member Thoms asked if the street would be improved from the park to the church; what ill happen to that section in front of the pumping station. Planning Consultant Nicole Criste stated the City is responsible for the improving the length including the pump station. Planning Consultant Nicole Criste stated there would be wrought iron fencing on the north side to give views into the park and the other two sides would have a block wall. He then asked about the gate into the pump station. Staff stated it is unknown other than a block wall. Committee Member Thoms asked if the landscape plan calls for three palm trees and one appears to be on top of the flag pole. Staff would note the change. Committee Member Thoms asked what the standard size was for a palm tree. Staff stated it is based on the height of the palm. Committee Member Thoms stated the palms need some height such as the California palm. He further stated he was not comfortable with the entrance landscaping. He would like to see the landscaping over a grading plan. This site will be at the same elevation as the pump station. As the pump station is higher than the park and street, so the entrance will have a gradient. The landscape design does not seem to recognizes the height differential. The mounding at the pump station and south of the driveway could not occur. The entrance does not reflect the gradient that it will probably turn out to be. The landscape plan needs to be done over a grading plan. DG is proposed for a slope and it does not stay on a slope very well. He has no problem with the palette itself or the lawn versus the decomposed granite, his concern is the design of the entrance and the design of the use of the materials in relationship to the ground plate itself. When staff reviews a more precise plan they should consider the grading plan at the same time they look at the landscape plan. Also, some vine material fixed to the concrete wall on the street side and on the south and west side. On the streetscape between the property line and curb, there is a meandering sidewalk that is not reflected on the plan. The plan also calls for a pine tree and within view of this project there are no pine trees. There is a mixture of pepper and jacaranda and mesquite, but we do not need to introduce a pine on this street. Find something that is already existing from across the street. 7. Committee Member Cunningham stated he would like the block G:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2-13-02. wpd 3 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes February 13,2002 wall to be a split face block. It also calls for stone wainscot on the lower portion of the building. He would suggest taking the split face and using it in this area to soften the building. Planning Consultant Nicole Crist stated staff could add a condition that wainscoting be the split face block as well and have split face on the pump station wall on all sides. 8. Committee Member Cunningham suggested a flat tile roof that blends with the split face. If you are going to veneer the building with the brown split face, blend the roof color to the split face, then you have the brown with the pump station that will tie it all together with the split face perimeter wall. 9. There being no discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-005 recommending approval of Capital Improvement Project 2001-14, subject to the conditions as amended: 1. The height of the palm trees is to be substantial. 2. The design of the landscaping along the driveway and over the entire site shall take into consideration the grade. 3. Vine material shall be added to the wall on the street side, west side and south side. 4. The pine trees in the streetscape shall be replaced with something consistent with what is across Adams Street. 5. The perimeter wall shall be split face and a split face veneer used instead of the wainscoting. 6. The roof color shall be compatible with the split face color. Unanimously approved. B. Site Development Permit 2001-729; a request of Michael Shovlin for Ross Dress for Less) for review of architectural plans for a 30,187 square foot commercial building to be located on the orth side of Highway 1.111, east of Washington Street within the One Eleven La Quinta Shopping Center. 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Committee Member Thoms asked about the roof color. Staff stated it would match what is existing in the Center. 3. Committee Member Cunningham stated it is keeping with the G:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2-13-02. wpd 4 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes February 13,2002 Center. With regard to the color, color is getting to be the trend and there is a lot of responsibility with color. Staff needs to ask for the actual color chips and where the color lines break. He has no objections to this project. 4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-006 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-729, subject to the conditions as recommended. Unanimously approved. C. Capital Improvement 2001-10; a request of the City for review of architectural plans for a two story detached addition and rehabilitation of the Historic City of La Quinta Historic Society Museum located at the southeast corner of Avenida Montezuma and Calle Mendoza (77-885 Avenida Montezuma). 1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. 2. Committee Member Cunningham stated he had no objection. He asked if they would be using random mudded and. Mr. Paul Johnson, architect for the project, stated he proposing to use red boosting throughout the roof. They do not want the roof to be too rough but do want texture and character. The stucco color will be similar to what is existing. 3. Committee Member Thoms asked about the existing door and if there was any connection to the paved area. Staff stated it would stay as it is historical. 4. Committee Member Thoms asked about the planters. Mr. Johnson stated the planters would be added to the top of the pavement. They would be detached and protected to retain it for historical purposes. Additional planters would be added as well. All existing trees will be retained as much as possible. Committee Member Thoms asked about the four palms and stated they should be used as an accept; four are too much and they should be replaced and a desert scheme used. If shade is wanted use the Palo Verde. 5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion G:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2-13-02. wpd 5 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes February 13,2002 2002-007 recommending approval of Capital Improvement Project 2001-10, as recommended. Unanimously approved. D. Site Develooment Permit 2001-728; a request of Stamko Development Company for review of architectural and landscaping plans for a retail shopping center, plant nursery, garden center, auto repair, specialty shop, nd an auto service station, in conjunction with Retail Building "B". 1 . Community Development Director Jerry Herman presented the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community Development Department. Staff asked the material and color of the canopy for the proposed gas station. Mr. Bill Parrish, architect for the project, stated it would be made out of metal and would be blue and painted to match. 2. Committee Member Cunningham asked if the applicant wanted to give a presentation. Mr. Gary Shepner, Perkowit, gave a presentation on the project. 3. Committee Member Cunningham asked if the fonts shown on the elevations would be used for the signage. Mr. Shepner stated it was their hope. Committee Member Cunningham stated it bring an identify to each of the retail centers. The design is modern and contemporary and not over the top which is good. This will work with the other new buildings in the area. He likes the metal work in the front as it is proportionate. 4. Committee Member Thoms asked where the accent red color would be used. Mr. Shepner stated it would be used where the blue is shown on the elevation. Committee Member Thoms asked if each building has its own accent color. Mr. Shepner stated yes. Committee Member Thoms asked if the landscape plans would come later. Community Development Director Jerry Herman stated yes, after the approval process. Committee Member Thoms stated he would like to see that there is some kind of landscape statement made, other than a sea of trees, at the entrance to tie it together. Ms. Chris Clarke, the applicant, stated this is an addition to the auto center and the same theme will flow over to this project for the entire 90 acres. Statements have been made and awards won for the Highway 11 landscape theme. 5. Committee Member Cunningham stated the auto center was done in conjunction with the City's landscaping plans. G:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2.13.02. wpd 6 Architectural & Landscape Review Committee Minutes February 13,2002 6. Committee Member Thoms stated he concurs with the landscape statement, but does not see it in the plans. There is no statement being made here. Ms. Clarke stated the monument signs and landscaping will be carried over to this project. She went on to explain the design. Discussion followed regarding the landscaping. Mr. Chuck Sicre, landscape architect gave a presentation on the materials to be used. He explained that when the detailed drawings are made it will allow for a better concept. 7. Committee Member Cunningham stated that if the architectural elements on the front of the buildings were carried over to the gas station it would soften up the look of roof structure, it would add to the statement of the project. 8. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by Committee Member Cunningham/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2002-008 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2001-725, subject to the conditions. Enhance the landscape entry statement. Unanimously approved. VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None VIII. ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members Cunningham/Thoms to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on March 6, 2002. This meeting was adjourned at 11 :20 a.m. on February 13, 2002. Respectfully submitted, ~~'v(6W. / ~~I1:%~YE~Executive Secretary City of'La Quinta, California 0:\ WPDOCSIARLC\2-13-02. wpd 7