2000 11 01 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Ouinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Ouinta, CA
November 1, 2000
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Committee was called
to order at 10:05 a.m. by Planning Manager Christine di Iorio who led the
flag salute.
B. Committee Members present: Bill Bobbitt, Dennis Cunningham, and Frank
Reynolds.
C. Staff present: Planning Manager Christine di lorio, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
It was moved and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Reynolds to
reorganize the agenda to move Agenda Item #C to Item #B and Item #B to Item
#C. Unanimously approved.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio asked if there were any changes to
the Minutes of October 18, 2000. There being no corrections, it was
moved and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Cunningham to
approve the minutes as submitted.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Specific Plan 2000-045. Site Development Permit 2000-677; a request
of Evergreen for review of landscaping plant pallette for a commercial
office complex and land, and building elevations for a drugstore to be
located at the southeast corner of 50th Avenue and Washington Street.
1. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
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2. Committee Member Dennis Cunningham asked if the applicant
would like to address the Committee. Mr. Mike Peroni, Dudek and
Associates, introduced Tom Doczi landscape architect, Mike
Mokray with Dudek and Associates, Philip Cross with Evergreen,
Chris Wiseman, architect for the project. Mr. Cross reviewed the
major modifications that had been made. He explained they
wanted to create an architecture that was compatible with La
Quinta with a Spanish influence. With the proximity to the
neighborhoods to the north and west of site, they wanted to
create something that would reduce the visual scale and create a
more human scale at the ground level. They started to introduce
the cantera stone to serve as visual relief. He then went on to
describe the architecture. The office buildings will have a similar
architectural character with color palettes that are similar.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if staff had concerns about the
view from the Washington Street bridge looking down onto the
roof; is staff satisfied? Planning Manager Christine di Iorio stated
it was acceptable; the applicant has provided additional
information to satisfy staff's concerns. Mr. Cross stated the view
from the maximum height of the bridge, you will see a finished
wall height. They have done sightline studies and from a five foot
eye level at the parapet height, this site is six feet below the
parapet. It is impossible to see on top of the roof. They kept
within the 22 foot building height limit and are still convinced the
mechanical equipment will be screened.
4. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the "beefing" around the
column base. Mr. Wiseman stated they would like to keep it as
proposed. It adds color, texture, shadow play and mass instead of
stucco coming down that could be damaged. The mass of the
stone gives a more substantial appearance. Staff stated it was
just the height of the columns. Mr. Wiseman stated the scale in
terms of proportions, was designed to have it in thirds to pick up
the critical line around the building. Committee Member Bobbitt
asked if there would be any advantage to widening out the base;
he did like the use of the cantera stone.
5. Committee Member Cunningham stated the issue to him was the
height of the stone. Staff stated they wanted the architect to
address this issue. Committee Member Cuningham stated that in
using thirds, he agrees with the architect. A three foot column,
however is substantial. The arch height is the same and the
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height of the cantera stone works well. It does add texture to the
building and from a maintenance standpoint it will hold up better.
Mr. Cross stated that especially at the entrance which will sustain
the greatest damage, it was important to use the stone. It will
have a medium sand finish to contrast with the highly textured and
colored cantera stone. Staff recommended deleting Condition #1.
6. Committee Member Bobbitt asked what material was to be used
for the trash enclosure. Mr. Cross stated it would be painted to
coordinate with the colors and would be made of metal.
7. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the date palm trees as
there are a great number of Phoenix Dactylferas and they are
unique, but from a safety standpoint, the crowns will fall off which
have caused injuries. He is not opposed as long as they are not in
high traffic areas. If they are planted in a younger state they are
better than the older ones removed from a grove. If they use them
only in not highly traveled areas, he has no objection.
8. Committee Member Bobbitt asked Mr. Doczi if they were having
any trouble getting the standard trunk tree to reach maturity
without having structural problems. Trees such as Schinus Molle
and Sumac, blow over or lose their shape. Mr. Doczi stated that
on the date palms they want to use them for continuity along
Washington Street similar to the other developments and
introduced them at the entrance and along the perimeter. They did
not plan to use them within the project. Schinus Molle would be
used along the streetscape on Washington Street as well. They
anticipate using the younger date palms, but it is becoming more
and more difficult to find them. Committee Member Bobbitt stated
there was no problem using them, as long as they were planted
where they would not fall on anyone. Mr. Doczi stated that in
regard to the condition regarding 50% replacement, they have no
problem with this and will revisit the hardscape plan to get vines
on the columns. Rather than a canopy tree they would like to use
an understory tree and alternate them with the palm trees. They
did add trees at the southwest and northeast corner of the
building, but since this was the main entry area, they felt there
would be a pedestrian conflict adding the landscaping. They may
use some at grade planters or pots to add to the landscaping.
They will have berming at the corners to meet grade. There will
be a wall to screen the parking, and they could add berming
around the corner. Trees do allow the people passing by to see
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through. The trees will have full size islands to allow the roots to
grow. Staff asked if the use of the annual color will be the same
as the Palm Desert store with the "W". Mr. Doczi stated no, it
will not be used.
9. Committee Member Reynolds thanked the applicant on his
presentation. He has no problems with the proposal.
10. Committee Member Cunningham stated he would like to be sure
the line-of-site is correct. Mr. Cross stated is a concern of theirs
as well, and they will make sure it works.
11 . Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the building is constructed
and the equipment is seen, is there a condition to see that it is not
visible. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio stated yes, a condition
will be added. Mr. Cross asked if they would be able to add the
extra two feet if they find it is needed. Staff stated it could be
added to the Specific Plan as an option if there is a problem with
the visibility at the time of construction.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Bobbitt/Reynolds to adopt Minute Motion
2000-020 recommending approval of the landscaping plant
pallette and building elevations for Specific Plan 2000-045 and
Site Development Permit 2000-677, as amended.
a. Condition #1: Deleted
b. Condition #3c: Deleted.
c. New condition: Requiring the mechanical equipment to be
hidden from sight.
Unanimously approved.
B. General Plan Amendment 2000-071. Zone Chanae 2000-096. Village
Use Permit 2000-004. and Environmental Assessment 2000-402; a
request of Chapman Golf Development, LLC for review of building
elevations and landscaping plans for an 11,900 square foot restaurant to
be located on the northeast corner of 52nd Avenue and Desert Club Drive.
1 . Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information contained
in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
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2. Committee Member Bobbitt asked staff to identify what the grass
area was to be used for. Staff stated it was for special theme
functions.
3. Committee Member Cunningham stated it is a great project and he
would love to see more of this type.
4. Committee Members Bobbitt and Reynolds stated they had no
problems with the project.
5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Cunningham/Bobbitt to adopt Minute Motion
2000-021 recommending approval of building elevations and
landscaping plans for General Plan Amendment 2000-071, Zone
Change 2000-096, Village Use Permit 2000-004, and
Environmental Assessment 2000-402 2000-045. Unanimously
approved.
C. Site Development Permit 2000-685; a request of Tait and Associates for
review of building elevations and landscaping plans for a 3,984 square
foot convenience store located on the northwest corner of Highway 111
and Washington Street within Point Happy Specific Plan.
1 . Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information contained
in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. Committee Member Cunningham asked about the location of the
building. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio stated it is right off
the Highway 111 signal entrance. Staff has worked with the
developer of the site to be consistent with the other buildings in
the project.
3. Mr. Steve Frank, Tait and Associates, stated they have been
working with staff to reach an agreement on the canopy design.
4. Committee Member Cunningham stated this is an extremely
sensitive site. The Cliffhouse Restaurant is located on the other
side of the rock, which is gorgeous. The restaurant design is
almost what they are looking for on the site. What needs to
happen is for the architect to go over and look at the Cliffhouse
and come real close to it architecturally. This is a nice looking gas
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station, but this site is very important and in his opinion they have
to go to the extremes to make it comparable with the Cliffhouse.
He understands that it is a gas station and it needs to resemble
that, but it needs to be on the scale of the Cliffhouse
architecturally.
5. Committee Member Reynolds asked what other developments
would be built on this site. Staff explained that the developer has
stated there will two fast food restaurants as well as a major sit-
down restaurant. Other specific uses are not known at this time.
6. Committee Member Reynolds, asked if the property was under
two ownerships. Principal Planner Fred Baker stated Madison
Development is now the owner of the entire site. Planning
Manager Christine di Iorio stated the grading plan has been
approved and they are now working on the pad areas. There was
a Specific Plan developed with design guidelines which outlined
the elements that had to be followed.
7. Committee Member Cunningham stated he would like to see the
stone work used on the Cliffhouse utilized here. He would not
condition it to be real stone, but a good veneer stone. The use of
smooth stucco finish, open tails on the roof element on the high
part of the building needs to be similar to the Cliffhouse, with
raised mudded tile to warm it up. The canopy needs revision.
Maybe a trellis type with beams closing off the center section,
similar to the Rancho La Quinta guardhouse to soften up the trellis-
gas bays. Planning Manager Christine di Iorio clarified it would
have a smooth trowel finish. Committee Member Cunningham
reiterated how sensitive this corner is and how important the
design is to this site. Staff stated that under the Specific Plan
they are using a flat clay tile roof tile. As to the stone veneer the
reference to the Coronado Virginia Light, the Specific Plan states
the cantera stone with the Cafe Two could be used. Mr. Frank
noted it the wording "like material", which in their opinion, this is.
8. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he agrees with Committee
Member Cunningham and this is the first proposal for the site. He
does not believe the design is reflective of what is wanted on this
corner. It needs to lend itself more to what the Cliffhouse looks
like.
9. Committee Member Cunningham stated the Specific Plan is a
guideline and it could be expanded upon.
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10. Committee Member Reynolds stated he hates to see Highway 111
being developed into a string of gas stations with fast foods. This
corner is far more important. Some special treatment needs to be
added to this site. He does not understand why so many gas
stations are needed in the same area.
11. Committee Member Cunningham stated the proposal is getting
there, but needs more work. They need to review the stone work.
Wood is not a good material to use on the exterior; it needs a
smooth stucco finish. The colors are not an issue. Curving is not
right, it should be rectangular or square and the canopy needs to
have a trellis look around the perimeter to soften it with knee
braces or corbels, or some type of architectural treatment.
Planning Manager Christine di Iorio asked what material should be
used on the knee braces or corbels; was he referring to metal
material? Discussion followed regarding possible suggestions.
12. Committee Member Cunningham stated he was not challenging
the Specific Plan conditions. Staff stated the applicant is
constrained by what is approved in the Specific Plan. Committee
Member Cunningham asked that they at least use the Coronado
instead of the Cantera stone.
13. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Bobbitt/Reynolds to adopt Minute Motion
2000-022 recommending approval of the building elevations and
landscaping plans for Site Development Permit 2000-685, as
suggested. Unanimously approved.
a Canopy redesign as suggested with a trellis look using the
beam element used on the building
b. Smoothed trowel finish
c. Use of Coronado "Virginia Ledge" stone
D. Site Development Permit 2000-665; a request of Steven Walker Homes
for review of landscaping plans for model homes and common areas for
Tract 29347 in Specific Plan 90-015 (Norman Course).
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained
in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. Mr. Dan Beals, representing Steve Walker Homes, stated he is
looking forward to the project and is available to answer any
questions.
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3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked the applicant to explain the
landscaping. Mr. Beals stated the front yards will be typical, as
shown. The rear yards will be as the property owner designs it,
but all landscaping will be maintained by the homeowners'
association. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the watering
would be on a timer. Mr. Beals stated a master timer with
common area water.
4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Members Cunningham/Reynolds to adopt Minute
Motion 2000-023 recommending approval of the landscaping
plans for Site Development Permit 2000-685, as recommended.
Unanimously approved.
E. Commercial Propertv Improvement Proaram 2000-003; a request of Mary
Hope Franco, La Quinta Video and Paging for a funding request to install
new landscaping fence, and awning with illuminated sign for the property
located at 78-040 Avenida La Fonda.
1 . Management Analyst Britt Wilson presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Committee Member Cunningham asked what the existing stucco
was. Ms. Franco stated the owner wants to put in a bid to
repaint. The canopy will change color to match the building color
when selected by the owner of the building.
3. Committee Member Reynolds asked about the fencing on the
perimeter. Staff stated it is an existing fence. The new fence will
replace the street side fence.
4. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if the guidelines were for the
front or entire building. Staff stated it is for external facade
improvements. Committee Member Bobbitt stated the landscaping
is only as good as it is maintained. Ms. Franco stated there is a
gardener and flowers will be planted in the planters. Committee
Member Bobbitt commented that one of the bids from one of the
landscape contractors, is not legal as he is not licensed and should
be removed. Staff reminded the Committee that a commitment is
signed by the applicant to requirement them to maintain the site
as part of the agreement to receive the money.
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5. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Bobbitt/Reynolds to adopt Minute Motion
2000-024 recommending approval of the funding for the building
elevations and landscaping plans for Commercial Property
Improvement Program 2000-003, with a score of 72.5.
Unanimously approved.
F. Commercial Property Improvement Proqram 2000-004; a request of
Michael & Annie Fischer, Village Park Animal Hospital for a funding
request to construct a block wall along the west property line for the
property located at 77-895 Avenida Montezuma.
1 . Planning Manager Christine di Iorio presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department.
2. Committee Member Reynolds asked if the block wall was on the
west side only. Ms. Fischer stated it will be on the west and
south side. Staff stated there is a wall and gate on the north side.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked if it is block or slumpstone. Ms.
Fischer stated they had not made that decision. Committee
Member Bobbitt stated that it needs to match the existing building.
4. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Member Bobbitt/Reynolds to adopt Minute Motion
2000-025 recommending approval of the funding for a block wall
for Commercial Property Improvement Program 2000-004, with a
score of 83. Unanimously approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee Members
Cunningham/Reynolds to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and
Landscaping Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on December 6, 2000.
This meeting was adjourned at 11 :46 a.m. on November 1, 2000.
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