2005 07 06 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A Regular meeting held at the La Ouinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Ouinta, CA
July 6, 2005
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee
was called to order at 10: 1 0 a.m. by Community Development
Director Doug Evans.
B. Committee Members present: Frank Christopher, Bill Bobbitt, and
David Thoms.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Doug Evans, Principal
Planner Fred Baker, Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit, and Executive
Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III.
CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Staff asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of June 1,
2005. There being no changes, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Members Christopher/Thoms to approve the Minutes as
submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Site Development Permit 2005-833; a request of Mulvanny G2
Architecture for consideration of architectural and landscaping plans
for a 150,000 square foot retail store and fueling station for the
property located south of the intersection of Depot Drive/Highway
111, between Dune Palms Road and Jefferson Street.
1 . Principal Planner Fred Baker presented the information contained
in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department. Staff introduced Peter Clement and
Jeffrey Wilson, Brad Lenahan, the Costco representative, the
architect and landscape architect, who gave a presentation on
the project.
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1. Committee Member Christopher asked about the wall abutting
the low-income housing project next door and the drive for the
loading trucks. Mr. Clement answered they have looked at the
drive for the trucks.
2. Committee Member Thoms asked if the access path was to
service the handicap. He then asked about the path on the
east. The blowups of the parking area show it as a pedestrian
connection, on the west side of the access path there is a
concrete block the cars to the west. On the east side there is a
low wall and hedge planting and then the parked cars. What
happens when pedestrians want to get to the path, do they
walk through the shrubs. Mr. Wilson stated there is a clear
path to both sides where the parking spaces are provided.
Where there needs to be ADA accessibility, it will be open on
both sides. This is a typical cross section, not actual.
Committee Member Thoms stated his concern is that people will
have to walk through the hedge to get to the path. Mr. Wilson
stated where there are no ADA accessible paths, people will
normally use the vehicle travel lanes, but they will work with
their landscape architect to ensure there are break areas where
people will want to walk through. Mr. Clements asked if it
would be better to meander the sidewalks to work out with the
ADA spaces. Committee Member Thoms stated there is not
enough room to meander a sidewalk. Mr. Clements stated they
could move the shrubs from one side to the other to create the
breaks on the east side as well. Mr. Wilson went on to describe
the pathway from Highway 111 to service pedestrian access as
well as ADA pathway.
3. Committee Member Bobbitt asked the height limits for this
location. Staff stated 40-feet, but architectural projections can
exceed this. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the use
of the Chinese Elm and Ash trees; are these normal trees for
Costco? Mr. Brad Lenahan, landscape architect for the project,
stated yes, and explained the alternative trees they may use.
Committee Member Bobbitt discouraged the use of the Pistacias
because they will blow over and split. They need to be
maintained or they will not achieve their purpose. Committee
Member Bobbitt commended the applicant on the parking lot
islands at 6-feet. He then asked what type of irrigation would
be used. Mr. Lenahan stated drip for shrubs, deep two inch
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bubblers on the trees. Committee Member Bobbitt stated the
bubblers can be a problem if not installed correctly. It is better
to use a grid of emitters, one on each side of the tree. Mr.
Lenahan suggested nettafim that is laid out in a grid.
4. Committee Member Christopher asked about the 1.5 inch
caliper trunk tree size and suggested they be 36-inch box trees.
5. Committee Member Bobbit explained the 1.5 inch was a Code
requirement. Mr. Lenahan stated that when they submit for
plan check the specifications will be listed at that time.
6. Committee Member Christopher stated the trees next to the
building should be larger.
7. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Bobbitt to
adopt Minute Motion 2005-023 recommending approval of Site
Development Permit 2005-833, as recommended and as
follows:
a. Redesign the planting areas to allow breaks in the plant
hedges for pedestrians in the parking lot.
Accommodations shall be made on the east and west
elevations.
b. Trees in and around the building shall be in scale with the
building.
Unanimously approved.
B. Village Use Permit 2005-029; a request of Prest Vuksic Architects for
consideration of architectural and landscaping plans for a 30,787
square foot of retail in two one-story buildings, for the property
located at the southwest corner of Calle Estado and Desert Club Drive.
1. Associate Planner Wallace Nesbit presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced David
Prest, John Vuksic and Bob Lichter, the architect and landscape
architect, who gave a presentation on the project.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt clarified that in regard to the palm
trees, his comments have been that they not be placed in high
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traffic areas and the choice of trees be made by a qualified
landscape architect to ensure they did not come out of an old
grove, but were strong, healthy trees and not stressed.
3. Committee Member Christopher asked about'the integration of
the residential uses in conjunction with the commercial uses.
Staff stated the applicant is not receptive to the idea at this
time. If it were considered, Building "B" would be the only
building for this type of development. Committee Member
Christopher stated this corner would be the ideal location to
have four residential units on the second story. Staff noted it
would require processing of a Specific Plan.
4. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the storefronts opening
onto the street. With the parking lot on the inside, it does not
lend itself to having entries on the street side. Staff explained
the site plan.
5. Committee Member Thoms stated that as presented, it does not
make sense to create punch-out areas to allow the entrances on
the street side. He asked the location of the corrugated metal.
Staff noted the location of the use. Committee Member Thoms
stated he would have a problem accepting the corrugated metal
in the Village. Mr. Bob Lichter described how the metal would
be integrated into the design of the project. In regard to the use
of the corrugated steel, he would hope they would not consider
the material without taking into account the entire project. In
regard to mixing this use with a residential component, it could
be a real problem. Parking would be the biggest problem. Mr.
Vuksic went into more detail on the project.
6. Committee Member Thoms stated he thinks it is a wonderful
project and agrees the residential uses would not work here.
He still has a problem with the use of corrugated metal. Mr.
Lichter stated the material on the City Library is metal. Mr.
Vuksic stated the metal is all exposed to give the texture of
material for a specific look. It will create shadows with the
light.
7. Committee Member Christopher stated the use of metal is
pushing the limits on the style in the Village when the majority
of the buildings are already some form of Spanish revival.
However, this site could support the contemporary style. It is
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his understanding that Council has stated they would like to
have the eclectic look.
8. Committee Member Bobbitt stated his concern is whether or not
the design would fit in this location. He does like the project
and he would visit the site. The building and landscape are
beautiful building.
9. Committee Member Christopher suggested there are a host of
materials made out of copper that are prefinished with almost
the same color pallet. It changes that element. It accomplishes
the design idea but uses a different material. Mr, Lichter stated
he would agree, but would question whether or not they can
find a material that is cost effective. Mr. Vuksic stated the
metal will not have the industrial look. It will be upscale.
Committee Member Christopher noted this corner is a transition
site where there should be a lot of foot traffic. He suggested
having the second building take access onto the street and
create a seating area. Discussion followed regarding
alternatives for the site, Mr. Prest stated he believes the City
would want the different architecture to have a variety.
Community Development Director Doug Evans stated the ALRC
has stated their approval of the building and concern about the
location of certain metals. He would state his concern is to
develop new customers and have a larger customer base, This
building could bring the younger clientele to keep it alive 50
years down the road.
10. Committee Member Christopher stated this is a good location as
it is the focused corner and this project would be a good
transition.
11 . Committee Member Thoms stated he has no objection except to
the corrugated metal.
12. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Thoms to
adopt Minute Motion 2005-024 recommending approval of
Village Use Permit 2005-029, as recommended and as follows:
a. Non glue-Iem products be pressure treated.
b. Actual metal sample of the finish piece of corrugated
metal be provided to the Planning Commission.
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Unanimously approved.
C. Site Development Permit 2005-814, Amendment #1; a request of the
Entin Family Trust for consideration of a modification to architectural
plans for a 23,760 square foot two-story general office building for
the property located 43-576 Washington Street, approximately 950
feet north of Fred Waring Drive.
1 . Associate Planner Wallace Nesibt presented, the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Albert
Barcelo, the architect, who gave a presentation on the project.
2. Committee Member Thoms asked how the first floor related to
the curb on Washington Street. Staff stated there is a slight
elevation. Mr. Barcelo stated the finish floor is at 151 feet
above sea level and the sidewalk on Washington is 146. It is
not a dominant building sitting on Washington Street. It is
recessed back from the street.
3. Committee Member Christopher asked if the solar concerns
raised by staff were addressed. Mr. Barcelo explained the
changes. Committee Member Christopher stated the banding
on the windows gives a more institutional look. He suggested
an eyebrow arch over the center upper windows. Mr. Barcelo
stated they considered it when they realized the extra space.
They did break it up on the first floor and rear of the building.
By adding the extra arches they thought this may be too much.
They were looking to have a balanced look on the entire
building.
4. Committee Member Thoms asked about the landscape plan. He
noted the changes as being an improvement. Along
Washington Street there needs to b,e more screening of the
parking lot. It is almost all decomposed granite (DG) with one
and two gallon plants. There needs.to be more screening. He
asked what happens along the north and south side. Staff
stated they would need to have a reciprocal access agreement.
The adjoini(1g properties are commercially zoned.
5. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Thoms to
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adopt Minute Motion 2005-025 recommending approval of Site
Development Permit 2005-814, Amendment # 1, as
recommended and as follows:
a. Tri-colored tile shall be used on the roof,
b, More plant material shall be added along Washington
Street to provide more screening for the parking lot,
c, Screening of property line walls shall be required.
Unanimously Approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Bobbitt/Thoms to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and
Landscaping Review Committee to a meeting to be held on August 3, 2005. This
meeting was adjourned at 11:47 p.m. on July 6, 2005.
Respectfully submitted,
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