2004 11 03 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A Regular meeting held at the La Ouinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Ouinta, CA
November 3, 2004
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee
was called to order at 10:04 a.m. by Interim Community Development
Director Oscar Orci who led the flag salute.
B. Committee Members present: Bill Bobbitt, Frank Christopher, and
David Thoms.
C. Staff present: Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci
and Executive Secretary Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Staff asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of October 6,
2004. Committee Member Christopher asked that Page 2, Item 6 be
amended to add "stainless steel". There being no further changes, it
was moved and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Bobbitt
to approve the Minutes as submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Village Use Permit 2004-025; a request of Desert Builders, Inc. for
consideration of architectural and landscaping plans for three live-work
spaces in The Village at La Ouinta located on the north side of Calle
Amigo, one lot east of Avenida Bermudas.
1 . Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci presented
the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is
on file in the Community Development Department. Staff
introduced John Deleo, marketing agent for Dr. F.H. LaBranche,
Jr., project representatives, who gave a presentation on the
project.
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2, Committee Member Bobbitt asked what type of business would
be here. Mr. Deleo stated they would be law firms, with
satellite offices. The Village Commercial designation does not
prohibit the living space. The zoning does not require a
setback; however, and yet they will have a five foot setback.
The color board will be a traditional La Ouinta styling similar to
the La Ouinta Hotel. It will have red stacked tile with painted
royal blue trim, Landscaping will be a design to provide shade,
but they are trying to maximize the use of the lot, but will abide
with Architecture and Landscape Review Committee desire.
3. Committee Member Thoms asked if the driveway will be as
shown in the computer rendering. Mr. Deleo stated it will not
have the rollup curb. There will have a separation. Committee
Member Thoms suggested the paver stones, tumbled would be
excellent. Mr. Deleo suggested a raised planter between the
driveway elements. Committee Member Thoms stated a low
raised planter would be fine. His issue with the elevation is that
even the color it is bland; there is no real detail. He would
prefer the barrel tile and capped. Mr. DeLeo suggested
traditional Spanish tiling with weeping,
4. Committee Member Bobbitt stated there will be problems with
the turf in some of the areas as it will need to be irrigated. He
would suggest a drip system be used, or something similar. In
regard to the planters it will have to be level and as the site is
not level, they will need to address the elevation change. This
will affect the height and could be a safety issue. Mr. Deleo
suggested a very low planter with drought resistant plants.
Committee Member Bobbitt reiterated it will need to have drip
irrigation.
5. Committee Member Christopher stated the computer generated
drawings do not transfer into what is being described. If it is
going to be a hand-trolled exterior with a Spanish look, it should
be delineated in the conditions. Mr. Deleo stated he has no
issue with adding a condition requiring the hand trolled, with
the royal blue trim around the doors. He noted each entrance
has an interior courtyard at the entrance.
6. Committee Member Thoms stated there are no light fixtures on
the wall noted on the rendenings. He noted the site has a nice
clump of palm trees at the northeast corner and he would like to
see them retained or relocated on the site.
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7. Committee Member Bobbitt suggested the bottle trees be
eliminated.
8. Committee Member Christopher stated there are no mullions
noted on the windows.
9. Committee Member Thoms stated he is concerned about the
number of issues they have raised and he wants to be sure they
are passed on to the Planning Commission. Staff noted their
comments will be recommended to the Planning Commission.
10. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Thoms/Christopher to
adopt Minute Motion 2004-032 recommending approval of
Village Use Permit 2004-025, as recommended by staff and
amended:
a. Condition added: Palm trees will be retained or relocated
on the site.
b. Exterior shall be hand trowelled stucco finish
c. The wall shall have cap detailing.
d. Window and doorway surrounds shall have detailing.
e. Moulin windows and doors shall be provided.
f. Wall caps shall be the cobblestone
g. Bottle trees shall be eliminated from the plant list.
h. Tumbled cobble stone shall be used for the driveway.
I. The roof shall be a mudded Spanish tile
Unanimously approved.
B. Site Development Permit 2004-817; a request of Bill Sanchez for
consideration of architectural and conceptual landscaping plans for
three commercial bounded by Highway 111, Avenue 47, Washington
Street and Adams Street.
1. Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci presented
the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is
on file in the Community Development Department. Staff
introduced the applicant, who gave a presentation on the
project.
2. Committee Member Christopher stated the northwest elevation
IS a service area, but as it does front onto a road corridor, it
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could use some additional detail, such as trellis work, for Pad 6.
The applicant stated there is only six feet between the building
and the curb which makes it tight to add any detail. They will
be layering to create different massing along that elevation.
They will be adding a planter area to soften the look of the area.
Committee Member Christopher noted that in areas where there
is a higher degree of public exposure there are black canopys.
He would suggest added the same detail/canopy over the
doorways to add something to give dimension to the walls. The
applicant agreed.
3. Committee Member Thoms asked if they were different facias
and not just color that overlay each other. The applicant stated
yes. Committee Member Thoms asked that the pedestrian area
in the center of the parking area, with the design element needs
some work. It should not be brought out into the paved area,
the driveway area. The applicant stated they would look at
some way to seal it to protect it. Committee Member Thoms
suggested it stop before the 36" band. Mr. Sanchez stated
they would look into different finishes to find a better way to
care for the concrete. Committee Member Thoms stated that
as no pedestrian will be in this area it does not function as a
people space. It needs to be cut off at the curb line and not
extend out into the driveway area.
4. Committee Member Bobbitt questioned the use of the Chilean
Mesquite. It is a fast growing, shallow rooted tree and after a
couple of years you will lose a large percentage due to the wind
and lack of maintenance and area to grow. He would suggest
using a different variety. Mr. Sanchez stated that in this plan
there are seven of these trees along the Highway 111
perimeter.
5. Committee Member Bobbitt stated the parking area where
pedestrians will walk through the planer area should have
appropriate stepping stones or some surface to allow them to
walk through.
6. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Thoms to adopt
Minute Motion 2004-033 recommending approval of Site
Development Permit 2004-817, as recommended by staff and
amended.
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a. Condition added: The pedestrian circle shall be
eliminated at the outer edge banding.
b. Condition added: The planter areas adjacent to the
parking lot shall have some type of material to allow a
pedestrian walkway.
c. Condition added: A trellis structure shall be added to
northwest elevation of Pad 6.
d. Condition added: An alternative design for shop 3 for use
of vehicles and pedestrians to be maintained in an
adequate manner that it will not fade.
e. Suggestion: An alternative tree to the mesquite trees
should be considered.
Unanimously approved.
C. Site Development Permit 2004-818; a request of La Quinta Partners
North for consideration of architectural and landscaping plans for two
new prototype residential units with two facades each located on the
west side of Caleo Bay, approximately 270 feet north of Avenue 48.
1 . Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci presented
the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is
on file in the Community Development Department. Staff
introduced Jim Thompson, representing the applicant, who gave
a presentation on the project.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt stated the tract needs some
undulation, but not sure it is possible. Staff noted the Code
requires staggering on every fifth home. Mr. Thompson stated
there is a minimum of 20 feet to the garage.
3. Committee Member Thoms asked if they could have less of a
setback. Staff noted with a side entry garage it can be 15 feet.
Discussion followed regarding alternatives.
4. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Bobbitt to
adopt Minute Motion 2004-034 recommending approval of Site
Development Permit 2004-818, as recommended. Unanimously
approved.
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D. Tentative Tract Map 32397; a request of Foxx Homes for
consideration of preliminary landscaping plans for Washington Street
perimeter located on the west side of Washington Street, north of
Laguna de la Paz.
1. Interim Community Development Director Oscar Orci presented
the information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is
on file in the Community Development Department. Staff
introduced Jim Foxx and Dave Denning of Foxx Homes and
Mike Horton of HSA Landscaping, who gave a presentation on
the project.
2. Committee Member Bobbitt stated the artificial rock can be a
big mistake if it is not done right. As long as it looks like the
mountain behind it, the effect should be beautiful. Mr. Foxx
stated that is their intent. It will be a mixture of real and
artificial rocks.
3. Committee Member Christopher asked the width of the lanes.
Mr. Horton stated it has two lanes in at the call box and one
lane exiting.
4. Committee Member Thoms asked why there was no gate
house. Mr. Foxx stated the cost was the reason.
5. Committee Member Christopher stated there is no specific plan
that relates to the plant pallet. The elevation needs to show the
height differentials with the trees.
6. Committee Member Thoms stated no where along Washington
Street does this type of impact take place. He is concerned
that it may be too dramatic for the street. Mr. Foxx stated it
will have a resemblance of a continuation of the rock
outcropping of Point Happy.
7. Committee Member Christopher asked the height of the rock
features. Mr. Foxx stated 20 feet and tapers down the closer
you get to Washington Street.
8. Committee Member Bobbitt asked what was to be behind the
perimeter wall. Mr. Foxx stated there is no sod between the
house and the street.
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9. Committee member Christopher stated that in order to do
anything viable is going to require this big of an effort, If you
look at what is across the street and the Church they have an
austere look, This will be an enhancing look to the Washington
Street Corridor.
10. Committee Member Bobbitt stated he would like to see the
Chilean Mesquite eliminated.
11 . There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Bobbitt to
adopt Minute Motion 2004-035 recommending approval of
Tentative Tract Map 32397, as recommended and amended by
staff. Unanimously approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Bobbitt/Thoms to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and
Landscaping Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on December 1,
2004. This meeting was adjourned at 11: 41 a.m. on November 3, 2004.
Respectfully submitted,
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