2004 08 04 ALRC Minutes
MINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Guinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Guinta, CA
August 4, 2004
10:00 a.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Architectural and Landscaping Review Committee
was called to order at 10:04 a.m. by Planning Manager Director Oscar
Orci who led the flag salute.
B. Committee Members present: Bill Bobbitt, Frank Christopher, and
David Thoms.
C. Staff present: Planning Manager Oscar Orci, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa, Associate Planner Greg Trousdell, and Executive Secretary
Betty Sawyer.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A. Staff asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of July 7, 2004.
There being no changes, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Bobbitt/Christopher to approve the Minutes as submitted.
Unanimously approved.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Site Development Permit 2004-762; a request of Westport La Guinta,
LP and Pacific Retirement Services for consideration of architectural
and landscaping plans for a continuing care retirement community
providing a 216 independent and assisted living units, 18 dementia
care beds and 20 skilled nursing beds on 21 acres located on the
northeast and southeast corners of Washington Street and Avenue 50.
1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Marco
DePalma, with Greystone, who introduced Pat Brown, with
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Pacific Retirement Services, Chris Dalengas and Joseph Tucker,
with Ankrom Moisan Architecture Interiors and Planning, Rob
Parker, RGA Landscape architect, and Marvin Roos, with MSA
Engineering, who collectively gave a presentation on the
project.
2. Committee Member Christopher asked what economic
demographics they intended to target. Mr. DePalma stated
primarily middle income communities and typically they will
build a low income project in the area of their project. He went
on to explain it is determined by the geographic area, based on
the median income of that area. Their entry and monthly
maintenance fees are determined on this information.
3. Committee Member Thoms asked if they had chosen a location
for their low income facility. The applicant stated they have
not.
4. Mr. Chris Dalengas, Ankrom Mosian Associated Architects,
gave a presentation on the elevations.
5. Committee Member Christoper clarified the flat roof carports
were designed per thei.r conversations with their neighbors to
the north. Mr. Dalengas stated they were designed flat based
on conversations with the neighbors.
6. Mr. Rob Parker, RGA Landscape Architects, gave a presentation
on the landscaping. Committee Member Christopher asked if
the chain link fence on the south property site would be
removed. Mr. Parker stated yes. Mr. DePalma stated they do
not want a resident to walk more than 300 feet to get
anywhere on the site, so they designed the tunnel to give
access to the north part of the project.
7. Committee Member Christopher asked if they thought the
tunnel was fiscally possible. Mr. DePalma stated they are
reviewing the financial aspect to make that determination. Mr.
Marvin Roos stated dirt would be taken from the north site to
the south site to equal out the two sites.
8. Committee Member Thoms asked the type of roof tile to be
used. The applicant stated it is a brushed Mission tile.
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9. Committee Member Thoms asked that an alternative tile be
considered for the roof,
10. Committee Member Christopher asked that a minimum three
color mix be considered for the roof. He noted several
residential projects where a colored mix is used to soften the
roof line.
11 . Committee Member Bobbitt asked the allowable building height
for this location, Staff noted they are below the maximum
allowed. They are allowed up to 40 feet.
12. Committee Member Bobbitt stated this design is much improved
over the original design. On the structures over the windows,
what material is proposed? Mr. Dalengas stated a heavy timber
lattice with aluminum detail. Committee Member Bobbitt stated
the plant material is excellent. In regard to the flat carports, it
is normally objectionable, but in this location, there is a
legitimate reason to use them.
13. Committee Member Christopher stated they should be sensitive
to the neighbors in regard to any situation where they are
looking down onto something unattractive.
14. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the perimeter fence.
Straight wrought iron will corrode and become water stained.
He suggested ways to protect it from the elements to hold the
fence up over the years. He then asked how the trash would
be handled. Mr. Dalengas explained the location and that it
would have a trash compactor. Each resident has an area for
trash and recycling. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about
the retention basin on the south side of the project; if it fills
where will the water go? Mr. Roos stated they had discussed
this with CVWD, and the Evacuation Channel will carry it off.
Committee Member Bobbitt asked about a problem where the
stucco reaches the ground surface. With the watering the
stucco will deteriorate and fall off, In some instances weep
screens have been used successfully,
15. Committee Member Thoms asked about parking spaces for the
units on the south side. Mr. Delangas noted the locations on
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the site plan, Normally a resident will use a golf cart to get
around,
16, Committee Member Christopher asked about the design of the
parking structures. Mr. Delangas explained the structure.
Committee Member Christopher asked about the signage. He
would also suggest that on the second story where there is a
lot of vertical railing, it would help if it were broken up with
some embellishment. In addition the large windows need to
include arches.
17. Committee Member Thoms asked about the pedestrian walkway
lighting. Mr. Delangas explained it will be low bollards.
Committee Member Thoms suggested using the mercury vapor
to have a white light.
18. Committee Member Christopher stated his concern about the
light poles that would be used. Consideration needs to be given
to the adjacent residents. Mr. Delangas explained what lights
would be used and where. Committee Member Christopher
stated his concern about whether or not there was enough
distance for the trash truck to turn around. Mr. Delangas stated
the drive is oversized and designed to accommodate the truck
turning movements
19. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Christopher/Bobbitt to
adopt Minute Motion 2004-023 recommending approval of Site
Development Permit 2004-762, as recommended by staff and
amended:
a. Condition added: Consideration should be given to
alternative roof tiles with a 3-5 color mix.
b. Condition added: All flat roofs shall have an attractive
material.
c. Condition added: Ornamental railing shall be used
d. Condition added: Arches on the large windows shall be
provided over the top.
Unanimously approved,
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B. Village Use Permit 2004-024; a request of James Kelly for
consideration of architectural plans for a two story 6,354 square feet
office building on 0.4 acres in the Village Commercial District, at the
southwest corner of Desert Club Drive and Calle Barcelona.
1. Associate Planner Greg Trousdell presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Community Development Department. Staff introduced Kristi
Hanson, architect for the project, who gave a presentation on
the project.
2. Committee Member Thoms asked what the exterior finish would
be. Ms. Hanson stated smooth, with a burnished look but not
hand trowelled.
3. Committee Member Christopher commended her design.
4. Committee Members Thoms agreed.
5. Committee Member Bobbitt asked about the shrubbery to be
used. It appears those listed on the plans are less than the
minimum size required. He then suggested one of the jacaranda
trees in the front be removed.
6. Committee Member Christopher noted the details on the cast
stone should be to the proper scale.
7. There being no further questions of the applicant, it was moved
and seconded by Committee Members Bobbitt/Thoms to adopt
Minute Motion 2004-024 recommending approval of Village Use
Permit 2004-024, as recommended by staff and amended.
Unanimously approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Thoms/Bobbitt to adjourn this regular meeting of the Architectural and
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Landscaping Review Committee to a regular meeting to be held on September 1,
2004, This meeting was adjourned at 11 :22 a,m. on August 4, 2004.
Respectfully submitted,
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