2003 04 03 HPC Minutes
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING
A Special meeting held at the La Ouinta City Hall Session Room
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Ouinta, CA
April 3, 2003
This meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission was called to order by Chairman
Leslie Mouriquand at 3:03 p.m. who led the flag salute and asked for the roll call.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. Pledge of Allegiance.
B. Roll Call.
Present: Commissioners Irwin, Puente, Sharp, Wright and Chairman
Mouriquand.
Staff Present: Planning Manager, Oscar Orci, Principal Planner Stan
Sawa, and Secretary Carolyn Walker.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:None.
III.
CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
None.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR: None
V. BUSINESS ITEMS
A. Archaeoloaical Testina and Evaluation Report for Site CA-RIV-6769
(Tentative Tract 30487)
Applicant: Santa Rosa Developers (David Brudvik)
Archaeological Consultant: CRM TECH (Michael Hogan, Principal)
1 . Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in
the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. Commissioner Sharp asked about the significance of the rocks found
at the site. He asked if they had something to do with an Indian
Encampment. Applicant, David Brudvik replied the original Site
Survey stated it was a historic site, but actually had date palms with
an old trailer, dune buggy, and well site with people living there. The
rocks were related to the contemporary site and not an Indian
Encampment.
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3. Chairman Mouriquand asked if anyone from CRM TECH was in
attendance to answer questions. Mr. Brudvik replied he had
recommended monitoring and thought Mr. Hogan would not need to
attend.
4. Chairman Mouriquand asked why monitoring was not recommended
in the archaeology report. Although it seemed appropriate, she
would like to hear what the CRM TECH representative would
recommend. She also asked whether the report had been submitted
to the local tribe organizations for their comments. Staff replied this
information was unknown.
5. Commissioner Irwin stated she agreed with requiring monitoring. Mr.
Brudvik stated he had contracted with CRM TECH to do the
monitoring.
6. Chairman Mouriquand stated she was impressed with the report. She
also commented on how the reports were getting better as far as
discussion and research. She stated she just wanted to go on record
she thought the research design discussion was excellent and wanted
to see this kind of information in every report. Mr. Brudvik
commented he would be using this firm on all of his future projects.
7. Chairman Mouriquand stated she would like to know about the
ceramic analysis and how the significance determination was made,
but since there was no representative in attendance she did not have
a problem with the report as long as the monitoring was required.
Mr. Brudvik indicated that the Public Works Department stated they
would not issue a grading permit until they had a copy of the
monitoring contract.
8. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Wright/Irwin to adopt Minute Motion 2003-004
accepting the Archaeological Testing and Evaluation Report for Site
CA-RIV-6769 (Tentative Tract 30487) with monitoring as requested
by staff. Unanimously approved.
B. Archaeoloqical Testinq and Mitiqation Reoort for Site CA-RIV-6134 (St.
Francis of Assisi Church)
Applicant: St. Francis of Assisi Church
Archaeological Consultant: CRM TECH (Michael Hogan, Principal)
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1. Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information contained in
the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. Commissioner Sharp had a question as to where the property was
located in relationship to the Church. Commissioner Wright replied
it was between the Church and the Arts Foundation property.
3. Commissioner Irwin asked that the staff indicate what will happen to
the collected archaeological and paleontological resources and all of
the reports where monitoring occurs. Staff replied it had not been
added to staff reports as the report stated the artifacts were being
given to the City.
4. Staff stated they would be included in the recommendations even if
recommended in the body of the report.
5. Chairman Mouriquand asked why the report was done in 2001, and
the Commission was just getting it. Staff replied the project was on
hold until just recently.
6. Commissioner Irwin asked why monitoring of trenching was not being
required. As this report was not current, it did not include all the
recommendations the Commission currently requests on all reports.
7. Chairman Mouriquand asked if this report was to modify an existing
set of conditions. Staff replied no, it was for a Phase II testing.
8. Commissioner Irwin made the recommendation to include the same
conditions of approval from the first report the Commission heard
(Tentative Tract 30487), the standard for future reports. Staff stated
the report conclusion indicated the recommendation for on and off-
site earth moving but it could be added in the recommendations.
9. Chairman Mouriquand stated the report states the older occupation
was a pre-ceramic one. She said that was a significant statement to
be made since there was no discussion in the report to justify it. She
added it was commonly thought ceramics entered this area around
900 AD. So, if this was the case, this would be 200 years later.
She also said the old adage "absence of evidence is not evidence of
absence" needed to be considered here. Just because no pot sherds
were found, doesn't mean that ceramics were not utilized at that time
period. She said she did not see where that was discussed. She
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was concerned the report jumped to a conclusion that could not be
substantiated. More testing at additional sites would be needed to
confirm this conclusion.
10. Commissioner Irwin commented there have been several sites dating
previous to this one and it would be interesting to look at those sites
and find out what was found because as it is all in the same
geographic area.
11. Chairman Mouriquand said it was time to put the pU2zle together to
see what sites there were in the City, for the record, this was a very
significant statement, but the conclusion was premature. Other than
that, it was a good report.
12. There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Irwin/Puente to adopt Minute Motion 2003-005
accepting the Archaeological Testing and Mitigation Report - Site CA-
RIV-6134 - St. Francis of Assisi Church Property with the addition of
the following conditions:
A. The site shall be monitored during on and off-site trenching
and rough grading by qualified archaeological and
paleontological monitors. Proof of retention of monitors shall
be given to the City prior to issuance of the first earth-moving
or clearing permit.
B. The final report on the monitoring shall be submitted to the
Community Development Department prior to the issuance of
the first building permit for the area covered by this report.
C. Collected archaeological and paleontological resources shall be
properly packaged for long term curation, in polyethylene self-
seal bags, vials, or film cans as appropriate, all within acid-
free, standard size, comprehensively labeled archive boxes and
delivered to the City prior to the final inspection. Materials will
be accompanied by descriptive catalogue, field notes and
records, primary research data, and the original graphics.
Unanimously approved.
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C, Work Proaram
1. Planning Manager, Oscar Orci presented the information contained in
the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Community
Development Department.
2. Chairman Mouriquand suggested staff research the possibility of
mitigation banking as a form of accruing funds to publish brochures,
plaques, and other items for public education. A legal nexus could
be crafted and a development fee could be charged, as a mitigation
measure. The money would then go into a fund for historic
preservation. Staff replied they would check with the City Attorney
about the possibility of pursuing that procedure.
3. Chairman Mouriquand asked for comments on Item Number One -
Updating of the City's Historic Structure Inventory.
4. Commissioner Sharp asked if the definition of what is historic was
anything older than 50 years. Staff replied that was the current
definition along with a coding sequence of level of importance. Staff
explained further the survey was to be updated to include any houses
that were 50 years old but eliminating those buildings which were
not relevant.
5. Commissioner Sharp stated the Commission needed some
parameters. Staff replied there was a coding system listing the
properties by relevant importance.
6. Chairman Mouriquand commented the criteria used in the first
inventory was the Secretary of Interior Standards. Anything
subsequent to that survey would have to follow the same Federal
standards.
7. Commissioner Wright was concerned that properties were missed in
the first inventory. It would be a priority to include any properties
that were missed. He was concerned about how to prevent any
further demolition permits from being issued for properties without
first checking with the Commission regarding their historic
importance. Planning Manager Orci replied guidelines were needed
to identify these properties and to set up a protocol of review for all
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City Departments prior to the issuance of demolition permits, as well
as the residents and applicants, so they would be aware of what is
necessary to develop on historic properties.
8. Commissioner Wright stated he thought it was entirely up to staff.
Staff agreed the City needed to be aware of these sites. but it was
also their responsibility to alert residents and applicants of their
property designations and how that would affect them as far as
development and demolition were concerned. There is currently no
procedure set up to check on, or block, demolition of historical sites.
9. Chairman Mouriquand stated staff needed to prepare a composite
map identifying those properties, within the City, classifying them
under some coding system and distribute the map to all departments
in the City to have it become routine for every department to check.
Staff concurred.
10. Chairman Mouriquand stated the map ought to be a high priority
since it could be a foundational planning tool. It could be a part of
an inventory request in a grant proposal. There would be the added
advantage of possibly being able to craft a tourism brochure with
appropriate properties listed. Property owners would then be
contacted to see if they would like to have their property listed on
the map.
11 . Commissioner Sharp asked if there was any incentive for the property
owners to be on the map. Staff stated they had not addressed that
question. They were trying to make certain the Commission was in
agreement that funding was needed to update the inventory. Tools
would need to be utilized to transmit the inventory in some graphic
format, and to have it available at the City, to share with applicants.
Then we would need to develop implementation procedures on how
to preserve and allow development to occur on noteworthy
properties.
12. Commissioner Irwin stated it should be done on a one-on-one basis
without a strict overall standard.
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13. Chairman Mouriquand stated that basic procedures could be outlined.
Staff concurred the public needed to know they would have to come
to the Historic Preservation Commission first. Currently there was no
such procedure in place.
14. Commissioner Wright agreed and added the first thing was to educate
City departments as to the commission's responsibilities. This
process can begin with a template for future reports. An excellent
example would be the recommendations included in Business Item
#A.
15. Planning Manager Orci suggested there be a template set up of
standard conditions that can be adjusted for the various cases.
However, monitoring could be standardized.
16. Commissioner Irwin wanted to make sure the three recommendations
included in Business Item #A were considered standard for all
assessments. Commissioner Wright added the reports have to be
consistent.
17. Chairman Mouriquand commented not all cases require monitoring
and the Commission should allow staff flexibility to assign
appropriate conditions.
18. Commissioner Irwin stated it was the Commission's prerogative to
expect or reject, add to, modify, and delete conditions, but if the
standard conditions are always included the developers would know
what is expected of them.
19. Chairman Mouriquand asked staff to prepare a standardized list and
customize the conditions as needed similar to the process used by
the Public Works Department. She added these conditions need to
be included in the Environmental Assessment Mitigation Monitoring
Plans and the project conditions of approval as well. This would
ensure the conditions are followed all the way through the project.
20. Staff asked Commissioner Puente for clarification on her question
about thresholds and standards. Commissioner Puente said she
would like something printed delineating what was considered
historic and what guidelines were to be followed, as well as an
explanation of the coding staff mentioned.
21. Chairman Mouriquand said the Commission follows the State and
Federal Regulations as well as the City's Ordinances. She suggested
the Commission might want to review those regulations at a future
meeting.
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22. Commissioner Sharp asked a question about historically significant
properties that didn't fall within the 50 year guidelines.
23. Chairman Mouriquand said there were exceptions to the 50 year rule.
This was where the guidelines applied. There could be a younger
structure of architectural or engineering significance, and it could be
included in the City's inventory. This would afford them the same
protection as any other historically significant structure.
24. Planning Manager Orci stated what was needed was to identify the
relevant City Code provisions and then the State and Federal
requirements. He gave an example of a home in the Point Happy
Ranch.
25. Commissioner Wright said this was one reason why it was important
to have everything listed, in the inventory, that was 50 years old or
older. The Commission would then have the authority to make
decisions on those structures which were not historically significant.
Staff agreed but added it was the procedures which needed to be
clarified once a structure was identified on the survey.
26. Commissioner Irwin said the Commission should be responsible for
making those decisions. Chairman Mouriquand said staff should
present their recommendations and the Commission could make their
decision from those recommendations.
27. Chairman Mouriquand suggested an in-house training session
involving key members of all departments. Educating everyone on
what was on the survey and procedures to follow if they were
presented with a historic property. Commissioner Puente added a
reference booklet would be very helpful in educating the City staff.
28. Chairman Mouriquand asked for comments on Item Number Two _
Apply for a CLG Grant to Pay for Inventory Update or Other Project.
She said the Commission needed to look at the Historic Preservation
Ordinance. It might even be possible to apply for and receive a CLG
grant to hire a consultant to review and analyze the Ordinance as
well as update it. She also suggested the Commission recommend
to Council adding an Implementation Plan that would establish
priorities and identify sources. She suggested staff begin working on
a proposal for funding with monies beginning in the Federal fiscal
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year what would be in October. Staff would then have 12 months
to complete their project and make a final report. The project could
begin in the Fall of this year. Staff agreed to begin working on the
proposal which would come back to the Commission before being
finalized.
29. Chairman Mouriquand asked for comments on Item Number Three -
Prepare and Distribute a Brochure that Serves as a Self-Guided
Driving Tour of the City's Historic Features and Discuss the
Prehistory.
30. Commissioner Puente said possibly a booklet could be put together
describing all the regulations and coding on what is considered
historic. This brochure could include the Historic Features and
prehistory.
31. Chairman Mouriquand then went to Item Number Four in the Work
Program - Hosting A CLG-Sanctioned Training Workshop. She
suggested outside participants could be invited. Commissioner
Wright commented they could invite people from other cities.
Chairman Mouriquand added the City would be perceived as a leader
in teaching other local cities about historic preservation and what the
responsibilities and laws were.
32. Chairman Mouriquand then went to Item Number Five in the Work
Program - Prepare a Composite Map of all Cultural Resources
Recorded Within the City. She commented there could be a lot of
academic research potential from this project as well as its use as a
planning tool for various City departments. There was also the
potential of obtaining grant money for this project.
33. Chairman Mouriquand then went to Item Number Six in the Work
Program - Completion of Historic Context Statement. She
commented this was an ongoing project that needed to be
completed. She added if it was done by an outside entity, such as
the Historic Society, or the Museum, there would be potential for the
document to be published. It would be primarily a research tool
which should be referenced in staff reports. One of the things she
looked for when she reviewed reports was this reference and it had
been some years since she'd seen any reference to that document.
There are currently two copies of it in the Eastern Information Center
and they were valuable documents for both the historic and pre-
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historic periods but they needed to be finished, then adopted by
Council for use in research.
34. Chairman Mouriquand then went to Item Number Seven in the Work
Program - Follow-up on Mitigation Monitoring for Projects like the
Tradition that were Conditioned for Annual Inspections, etc. The
reason the Traditions was named was because there was a capped
site in that project. The conditions of approval for the project
required an annual inspection to check on the integrity of the cap.
The City should be doing this on an annual basis to see if the cap is
still holding together. There are highly significant pre-historic sites
over there and the way we preserve them in situ is to put a sterile
cap on top of them. They are not to have any structures or anything
placed on top of them.
35. Commissioner Irwin said there was also a site at Burning Dunes at
Avenue 48 and Jefferson Street, as well as one at the Miraflores
project that also needed to be inspected.
36. Chairman Mouriquand directed staff to go through the Conditions of
Approval for the last five years to prepare a list of all capped and re-
buried sites requiring annual inspection. She added the property
owners needed to be informed the sites would be under continuous
monitoring. Staff agreed to bring a list back to the Commission for
approval.
37. After further discussion it was concluded the Commission would set
up an annual inspection protocol and staff would prepare a map of
sites designated as important. The map will be for internal use only,
not for public distribution. The map, and an information packet,
could be given to property owners to advise them of what they could
and could not do on those properties.
38. Chairman Mouriquand then went to Item Number Eight in the Work
Program - Survey for Sites that are in Imminent Danger of Erosion or
other Destructive Threats, especially on City-owned Properties.
Prioritize and Stabilize or Mitigate Sites as Needed. Commissioners
agreed a list of City-owned properties was needed. Staff was
directed to find out whether any of the properties had been surveyed
and if they had historical resources on them. These properties could
be included in an inspection tour once, or twice a year. The
properties, with resources, could be flagged so due diligence
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procedures could be followed and the Council would be informed if
special preservation requirements were needed.
39. Chairman Mouriquand then went to Item Number Nine in the Work
Program LM - Plaques and Related Material for Self-guided Tour.
40. Commissioner Irwin asked if this only included the identification of
historic properties. Staff replied that was correct and ask if the
Commission wanted to provide some level of standardization of what
requires a plaque and what doesn't.
41 . Commissioner Wright stated it should be open-ended and done on an
individual site basis.
42. Commissioner Sharp said there should be some designation as to size
and style.
43. Commissioner Irwin commented on the statue, at Point Happy.
44. The Commission then decided to have staff prepare a list of possible
sites, include pertinent details, have the Commission approve it, then
recommend approval to the Council.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None
VII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Wright/Irwin to adjourn this Special Meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission to
the next Regular Meeting to be held on May 15, 2003. This meeting of the Historical
Preservation Commission was adjourned at 4: 18 p.m. Unanimously approved.
Submitted by:
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Carolyn Walker
Secretary
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