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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
July 11, 2006 7:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman Quill who introduced Commissioner Engle who he
asked to lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Ed Alderson, Katie Barrows, Rick Daniels, Jim
Engle and Chairman Paul Quill.
C. Staff present: Community Development Director Doug Evans, Assistant
City Attorney Michael Houston, Public Works Director Tim Jonasson,
Planning Manager Les Johnson, Associate Planner Andy Mogensen, and
Secretary Carolyn Walker
~ II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
A. Chairman Quill requested Agenda be reorganized to take Item A under
Commissioner Items before the Public Hearings. Community
Development Director Doug Evans presented the information contained in
the staff report and explained the options available to the Commission.
1. Commissioner Alderson asked if a zone change would be required
to allow the change in the rear setback. Staff explained the issue
was that there had been some misinterpretation by staff regarding
what the actual setback should be on different houses and it
needed to be clarified. Commissioner Alderson asked how many
lots were left that this would apply to. Staff stated there were
only a few but, if the Code is not changed the setback will remain
15 feet and the Commission would have to deal with each lot
individually.
2. Commissioner Daniels asked how difficult it would be for a lot
owner to apply and receive a variance in this type of situation.
Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston explained typically one of
the requirement for a variance is that a unique feature of the
property makes it difficult to develop within the zoning standards
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so that it makes an equitable sense to deviate from the standards
due to the unique configuration of a particular piece of a property.
As a general rule granting a variance should not be something that
can be done across the board for a particular piece of property in a
location because by definition a variance is allowed for a unique
situation. However, as a practical application, the Commission or
City Council may use a variance to achieve a result when a
situation is difficult even though the legal components are missing.
Commissioner Daniels asked how many lots had the potential of
being affected. Staff stated eight to ten.
3. Chairman Quill asked if an aerial could be prepared by staff to give
a visual review of what lots exists and how great an impact this
could have on the community. Also, he would like to see a
comparison as to which lots have the ten foot and which have the
15 foot setback. Staff explained that was the purpose in
requesting the Code change and the results will be same as what
is before the Commission currently.
4. Following discussion, the Commission directed staff to prepare a
City-initiated Zoning Text Amendment addressing the rear yard
setbacks for the Cove Residential area.
IV. CONSENT ITEMS: None
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Continued -Environment Assessment 2006-568, and Specific Plan
2006-080; Consideration of: 1) Recommending to the City Council
Certification of an Addendum to Environmental Assessment 2002-453;
and 2) SilverRock Resort Specific Plan creating development guidelines
and standards for the future development of a destination resort area.
1. Commissioner Daniels stated he had a potential conflict of interest
and asked for Counsel advice. He declared he lives at 55-150
Shoal Creek, but will receive no financial benefit from this project.
He therefore believes he is eligible to discuss and vote on this
issue. City Attorney Michael Houston acknowledged
Commissioner Daniels comments and stated he agreed.
2. Chairman Quill opened the public hearing and asked for the staff 1
report. Community Development Director presented the
information contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file
in the Community Development Department.
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3. Chairman Quill asked about the height of the signature hotel and
the photo exhibits. Staff replied the photo was taken from the
project entryway and is over 1,700 feet from the street. The
design of the project and the surrounding projects would allow
someone to see the building, but the visual impact of the height
would be negligible. tt is in an appropriate location with an
appropriate visual impact.
4. Commissioner Alderson asked if the 65 foot height of the hotel
would be the highest height impact on the golf course. Staff
replied that was correct.
5. Commissioner Daniels asked if there were going to be different
elevations on the hotel and variations in the roof line, not just a
building at 65 feet in height. Staff showed a map and explained
how the hotel would be built with variations in height.
6. Commissioner Daniels asked for an explanation on how the
number of units were determined. Staff explained how the room
count was obtained in regard to phasing of the project.
7. Chairman Quill asked about the ratio of rooms versus key units.
Staff stated the key count varies in regard to casitas.
8. Commissioner Barrows asked about Page 18 of the Addendum in
regard to clarification on the mitigation measures, especially the
analysis relative to drainage issues. She was aware there were
some significant drainage issues and the Addendum does not
acknowledge them. Public Works Director Tim Jonasson replied
most of the drainage issues were created by off-site and mountain
flows. He went on to explain how the first phase issues had been
addressed. The only issue left is what falls on the site and should
be able to be handled by local retention basins and storm drains
consistent with golf course maintenance.
9. Commissioner Barrows said she was concerned about the large
water usage on the site and the lack of drought-tolerant plants
being used. Staff identified the location and replied the majority of
the water is already on-site. The idea of introducing water to the
second phase is artistic license. Commissioner Barrows asked
staff to identify where the second golf course is planned. Staff
replied the majority of the lakes are in and said water-efficiency is
going to be a challenge. On the second course, the amount of
water is substantially reduced and staff could look at that relative
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to future designs.
10. Public Works Director Tim Jonasson added the water used for the
lakes is taken from the All-American Canal and would be re-
circulated throughout the course. There was also a back up well
in case there is no water available from the Canal.
11. Commissioner Barrows noted the hotel descriptions and
appreciated the resort environment. She did add the entry feature
is excessive in water usage and felt the City was not making a
statement of water conservation. She said if the Water District
has approved the plans, we must have mitigated the project
properly, but the measures seemed rather meager. Staff said
mitigation measures were already in place, but from an
environmental standpoint, the Commission could convey their
concerns for water consumption to the Council.
12. Commissioner Barrows commented there was some artistic license
on the second golf course. She asked if that was something that
was going to go through Planning Commission and then to the
Council. Staff gave a description of the future planning including
water efficiency and said there is a routing plan to make sure
sufficient land was devoted to the golf course. The next phase
was to look out how we design the second golf course to make
sure it is playable, including water tisage. Commissioner Barrows
said she would like to see the mitigation measures, with respect to
water, be more stringent.
13. Commissioner Barrows wanted clarification on energy conservation
mitigation measures. Staff replied they pull out all the energy
conservation measures and put them in a consistent consecutive
set of requirements for project development. They are reviewed
and tested as staff goes through the project design. Currently,
there is some generic wording in the document.
14. Commissioner Barrows had further questions on meeting Title 24
standards. Staff replied every project has to comply with Title 24.
In the architectural review staff starts to look at solar design
issues, and energy issues. The Council is concerned about these
issues as well. Commissioner Barrows asked if there was a
possibly the mitigation measures could exceed Title 24. Staff
replied it was possible they could.
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15. Commissioner Barrows asked about the Big Horn Sheep activity on
the golf course and if a fence would be necessary. Staff has kept
Fish & Wildlife up-to-date on any siting of Big Horn Sheep and
staff has been trained on how to handle any future sitings. Public
Works has been advised of the possibility of putting up a
protective fence if it is necessary. The City has brought in some
outside expertise on how to keep the Sheep off the property.
Staff added a fence could be harmful to the Sheep and they are
working with Fish & Wildlife and the Big Horn Institute relative to
how you keep Sheep off the property. The City is currently doing
everything the mitigation measures require.
16. Commissioners Barrows pointed out Item #2, Page 29, where it
refers to a mitigation measure on Big Horn Sheep. Staff replied
there is a terminology problem because this refers to the adjacent
property and there may have been a typographic error when this
report was prepared. Staff will look into this further.
17. Commissioner Daniels asked if the hillsides were privately owned.
Staff replied the City tried to purchase the hillsides, but they are
currently owned by KSL or CNL. The City is still interested in
purchasing the hillsides if it ever becomes possible.
18. Commissioner Barrows had a question with reference to Page 40
and asked if the Edom Hill Landfill was closed since it was noted in
the report. It should be corrected to note it is closed.
19. Commissioner Daniels said it was closed and added information on
other landfills which closed since the original report had been
prepared. Staff replied they would make the necessary corrections
prior to the report going to the Council.
20. Commissioner Barrows said she wanted to add this for purposes of
clarification. She commented on the project having potential
impact regarding aesthetics on Page 45 and she did not
understand exactly what the report was referring to. Staff replied
the mitigation measures on Page 47 the potential impacts would
be less than significant. Staff replied they would do a global
search on landfill information.
21. Commissioner Alderson asked if there was access from Avenue 52
to the front of the boutique hotel. Staff replied the primary access
is through the main road. There would be a secondary access
from the north side off Avenue 52 for emergency access only.
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22. Commissioner Alderson had asked if the casitas would be owned
by individuals, or an offshoot of the hotel, and would they have
garages. Staff stated they would likely be individually-owned and
would have covered parking and/or with carports. There were
intended to have different types of covered or shaded parking.
Commissioner Alderson asked if they would garages. Staff replied
no, the intent for the units was that they were not set up for full-
time, year-round living. They would not have full-sized kitchens,
closets, etc. The intent of the units is to remain in the rental pool.
23. Commissioner Alderson asked a question about the well sites.
.Public Works Director Tim Jonasson said there is an irrigation back
up well site by the driving range as well as mitigation well sites for
offsetting the water usage.
24. Chairman Quill asked if they were CVWD well sites. Staff stated
yes.
25. Commissioner Alderson referred to the Specific Plan on Page 60,
3`d paragraph where it discusses "... Canal would not only be used
as a source for irrigation water for SilverRock, but also for
stormwater drainage purposes..." Public Works Director Tim
Jonasson replied there was talk at one time to obtain NPDES
permit to take water from the site to the All American Canal. It
would be nice to circulate water back into the Canal, but it
requires a NPDES permit which the City does not have at this time
but wanted to leave the option open.
26. Commissioner Alderson said he was still confused about the dual
usage of the Canal. Public Works Director Tim Jonasson read the
section the Commissioner was referring to. He said if the City
worked with CVWD they would be able to bring water back into
the Canal and function as a storm drain. Staff added commentary
about recapturing water, storm drains and usage of storm water
back into the Canal. Staff thought it was appropriate to leave that
information in, but the Commission could recommend removing it.
27. Chairman Quill said he believed there were spillways in the
mountains above PGA West that go directly into the Canal which
were built by the Bureau of Reclamation. Staff replied they would
tike to leave that in if the Commission is so inclined.
28. Commissioner Alderson asked since the Canal has nice, clean
water for irrigation purposes, then you channel storm water into
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the Canal how will it benefit the Canal. Public Works Director Tim
Jonasson replied the Canal is actually not clean water as it has to
be filtered several times in order to be usable. The storm water
would probably be cleaner since it will work its way down through
bio-filters.
29. Commissioner Alderson referred to one of the exhibits which
discussed abandoning a forced sewer main currently in existence.
Public Works Director Tim Jonasson replied those are requirements
made by CVWD for the water and sewer agreements for the
project site. He gave a brief overview of what would be done to
compensate for the loss of the abandoned mains.
30. Commissioner Alderson pointed out the reference to multi-use
trails and asked staff if that included equestrian use. Staff replied
it could. The City's General Plan multi-use trails includes
equestrian and pedestrian trails. The trails would be mainly used
for pedestrians and golf carts.
31. Commissioner Alderson asked if an architectural theme, such as
Southwest or Tuscan, had been discussed. Staff said the Specific
Plan should not get into a detailed architectural plan at this point.
Because the Redevelopment Agency owns the property, prior to
going forward with the agreement for selling or leasing the
property, the architectural treatments described for the property
has not yet been decided, but would probably be a type of early
Californian architecture. If the City was comfortable with the
proposal, they would proceed with the architecture presented. If
the current negotiations go forward, the La Quinta design palette
would be utilized.
32. Chairman Quill asked if the Commission would be getting further
development reviews on this project. Staff replied yes.
33. Chairman Quill asked about the trail from Jefferson Street along
the Canal. Staff said that was a secondary local roadway
servicing the driveway as well as the Club House.
34. Chairman Quill wanted to make sure the Commission had the
opportunity to include pedestrian and bike pathways. He said it is
wonderful we're planning multi-use pathways, but we're providing
a lot of amenities for the golfers, but need to provide ambiance
and amenities to other users of the project, such as joggers,
bikers, etc. Desert Willow in Palm Desert is a beautiful project and
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they have done a better job of drought-tolerant planting, but have
not done a good job on their pathways being pedestrian and
bicycle-friendly. We should make sure we provide ample
opportunities to include those amenities.
35. Chairman Quill said more attention needs to be paid to the
drainage on the golf course. Ensure the drainage off the hillside is
used for irrigation purposes. Also, ensure the next golf course has
lakes that are interconnected. Public Works Director Tim Jonasson
replied they will all be interconnected.
36. Commissioner Alderson asked if any reclamation water has been
used. Staff replied not at this time.
37. Chairman Quill asked about the purple pipe if the opportunity
becomes available. Public Works Director Tim Jonasson gave him
information on the current status of reclamation water availability
in this area.
38. Chairman Quill asked about the timing of the mitigation monitoring
report. Staff stated Mitigation Monitoring Program 1MMP) is a part
of the original Environmental Assessment. It could be made a
separate document and made available to the City Council. The
City Attorney was involved in the drafting of the MMP and it has
been, and will continue to be used during the entire process of the
development of the project.
39. Chairman Quill asked if fractional ownership is possible. Staff said
it could be.
40. Chairman Quill asked if the water uses would be dual uses. For
instances all exterior water uses would be potable. Public Works
Director Tim Jonasson stated this was part of the Agreement with
CVWD.
41. Chairman Quill said he likes the way the turf is maintained, but
there have been issues with the landscaped areas and the drip
emitters. Probably 50% of the on-site golf waste plant material
has died out and removed and the irrigation has been capped. The
long-term conditions of the golf course have not been planned out ~
very well. He referred to the usage of decomposed granite in the
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areas where the landscape has eroded. He was concerned about
the aesthetics of the golf course and use of drought-tolerant
plants. He hoped the Planning Commission would get to look at
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the landscaping plans for the next golf course plan.
42. Public Works Director Tim Jonasson stated the original design by
the Arnold Palmer golf course architects was for native plants and
it was worked into the Master Plan. He explained the design
process and the drainage/erosion solutions for the landscaping.
The original vision of the landscaping did not work out as planned.
He added the City has constructed dry wells and moved some of
the landscaping to accommodate and solve some of the problems.
43. Chairman Quill referred to the native landscaping on the Nicklaus
Golf Course at PGA West. It proved the landscaping could be
done and done well. He wanted to make sure the final
landscaping at SilverRock was done as well. Staff added all of the
planning areas that will have buildings will go through the standard
Site Development Permit process. If the Commission feels strongly
about looking at the golf course plan they might want to add that
recommendation to the Council.
44. Commissioner Daniels made a comment regarding a bill working its
way through the legislature, sponsored by CVWD requiring golf
courses to use non-potable water, if available. On visual resources
he hoped they were going to redesign the entrance statement at
the entrance because, it blocks the view of the mountains. That is
inconsistent with trying to protect the use of the mountainside.
Also, the wall on Avenue 52 blocks the mountain views and any
future walls on Jefferson Street should allow view of the
mountains from Jefferson Street. Staff said one of the concerns
on this project was to ensure the views remained and they were
going to do a demonstration project along Avenue 54.
45. Commissioner Daniels asked if the Jefferson Street entrance would
resemble the entrance off Avenue 52. Staff went over the
concept drawings.
46. Chairman Quill said the Commission would like to have the
opportunity to see the golf course and future plans for the future
phases.
47. Commissioner Alderson asked if this would impede the progress of
the project. Staff said it would add another layer and steps, but
the Commission could make a motion to include the request.
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48. Commissioner Barrows said one of the most important features of
this site is the ancient shoreline and she did not see it mentioned
in the Environmental Assessment. She asked if there was an
opportunity to highlight some of the features of the trail. Staff
gave information about the trails and stated the City would not be
able to look at any trail system until the Ahmanson House is no
longer a clubhouse.
49. Commissioner Barrows mentioned traveling to various trails
throughout the world and what a great opportunity it would be to
add this feature to the plan. Staff said the Commission could add
this condition to their approval. Staff added the number one
amenity the public has mentioned is trails. Commissioner Barrows
was looking for an opportunity on the site, to highlight this
feature.
50. Commissioner Daniels cautioned about having access to the
Ancient Cahuilla Shoreline to allow an opportunity for defacing.
He explained what had occurred in PGA West and the defacing
that has occurred.
51. Commissioner Barrows said she only wanted an opportunity to
draw attention to the feature.
52. Commissioner Alderson asked if the process goes forward, where
would the public park fit into the sequence of events. Staff replied
it was a primary consideration and it would be one of the first
efforts. The City is currently going through a Parks and Recreation
Master Plan and it is important this addition be aesthetically
pleasing.
53. Commissioner Alderson said he was not an advocate of slowing
down the procedure to look at the golf course design.
54. There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Quill asked if
there was any other public comment. There being no public
comment, the public participation portion of the hearing was
closed and open for Commission discussion.
55. Chairman Quill asked that some opportunities for cultural resource
usage built into the Specific Plan including interpretive trail
elements and other things as stated. He suggested these items be
included as recommendations. He also said it would be a good idea
for the Commission to review the golf course landscape plans,
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parkways, the main boulevard through the project, multi-use trail
design, and landscape aesthetics. Chairman Quill recommended the
multi-use trails be done with a lot of artistic endeavor.
56. Commissioner Barrows wanted to encourage the water-conservation
element to the furthest extent possible.
57. Commissioner Daniels requested they be allowed to review the
entryway landscaping. Staff suggested the issues be made as two
recommendations.
58. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Alderson to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2006-025, recommending
approval of Environmental Assessment 2006-568 as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Barrows, Daniels, Engle, and
Chairman Quill. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
. None.
59. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Daniels/Alderson to
adopt Planning Commission Resolution 2006-026, recommending
approval of Specific Plan 2006-080 with recommendations as
recommended and amended:
a. Multi-use trails are planned for the perimeter edge and within
the Specific Plan Area that will accommodate both non-
motorized and golf cart use. The perimeter trail will run along
the south side of Avenue 52, west side of Jefferson and a
short distance of the north side of Avenue 54. The multi-use
trail will also run adjacent to SilverRock Way and may include
the Jefferson Street entry access road as well.
b. The multi-use, pedestrian, bicycle, and golf cart trails will be a
key design feature of the resort encouraging public access to
the clubhouse, signature hotel and resort commercial areas.
In addition, the trails design will also include interpretation
features that provide cultural, geological, and biological
historical information of the area. A detailed analysis of the
final interior trail design shall be conducted and incorporated
into the project development plans..
c. Water and energy conservation measures shall be
implemented in the future development of the resort to the
fullest extent possible. At a minimum, said measures shall
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include the mitigation measures identified in the Addendum to ~ -
Environmental Assessment 2002-453.
d. Provide opportunity for Planning Commission to review the
new clubhouse, landscaping plans for the second golf course,
parkways (including walls and/or fences-, trails and walkways.
e. City Council should evaluate the Avenue 52 entry feature,
mound with palm trees, turf and waterfalls, and consider an
entryway re-design in order to open up the views to the
mountains and project.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Alderson, Daniels, Engle, and
Chairman Quill. NOES: Commissioner Barrows. ABSENT:
None ABSTAIN: None
VI. BUSINESS ITEMS: None
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None.
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
B. Notification of the Draft Village Parking Study.
1. Chairman Quill state the Study was very well done. Staff replied the
consultant was exceptional and had done a very good job.
2. Commissioner Alderson asked if this was an informational
presentation. Staff replied it was.
C. Vista Santa Rosa Design Guidelines
1. Staff gave a brief presentation on this item including timelines and
objectives on the area's development. Staff informed the
Commission they were working to create Vista Santa Rosa Design
Guidelines that were specific to the area.
2. Commissioner Barrows asked what would be the staff's timeline of
finishing the design guidelines. Staff replied the first Phase of the
plan should be completed within the first six months of the fiscal
year.
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i D. Year 2006/2007 Work program.
1. Chairman Quill said the Work Program was very well done. Staff
added there are a number of items they are still working on from
the past fiscal year, such as the Golf Cart Plan and Lighting Plan,
but they hope to have them finished soon. The first six months of
the work program will be aggressive with regards to Vista Santa
Rosa. Staff will then start working on an Urban Design Plan for the
Village, with the Parking Study being the first phase of the Plan.
2. Commissioner Daniels asked when the General Plan is due for
update. Staff replied money has been put away to update the
General Plan. They will begin looking at the Southeast part of the
City and hope to send out a Request for Proposals this year.
3. Chairman Quill added he was pleased to see parking addressed in
the SilverRock project and discussed the Kohl's parking lot. Staff
gave suggestions on what could be addressed in that parking area.
E. Chairman Quill asked that staff place the election of the Chair and Vice-
Chair on the next agenda.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Daniels/Barrows/ to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to a
regular meeting of the Planning Commission to be held on July 25, 2006. This meeting
of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 8:57 p.m. on July 1 1, 2006.
Respectfully submitted,
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Carolyn V.(% Iker, Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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