2008 04 14 CSC MinutesCOMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION
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April 14, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
A regular meeting of the Community Services Commission was called to order at
5:30 p.m. by Chairperson Weber.
Commissioner Brodsky led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Commissioner Sheldon Brodsky
Commissioner Andrea Gassman
Vice-Chairperson Bob Leidner
Commissioner E. Howard Long
Commissioner Dori Quill
Commissioner Robert F. Sylk
Chairperson Mark Weber
STAFF PRESENT: Edie Hylton, Community Services Director
Steve Howlett, Golf & Parks Manager
Angela Guereque, Senior Secretary
PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
CONFIRMATION OF AGENDA
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Gassman and seconded by Commissioner
Long to confirm the agenda. Motion carried unanimously.
PRESENTATIONS:
None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Approval of March 10, 2008 Minutes
Commissioner Gassman noted that on page 7, paragraph 5, sentence 2, reads
"that it the" should read "that the." On page 7 under Correspondence No. 3 it
should be noted that there was no discussion. On page 8, paragraph 1, last
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sentence, reads "Commission does not" should read Commission should not." On
page 8, paragraph 3 reads "that her and" should read "that she and."
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Long and seconded by Commissioner
Sylk to approve the minutes as corrected. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
PUBLIC HEARING
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
1 . Consideration of Participation for the Multi-Generational Talent Show
Director Hylton explained that the Community Services Department is requesting
the assistance of two Commissioners to assist staff in the upcoming annual Multi-
Generational Talent Show. Staff requests support in emceeing the event which will
take place on Friday, April 25, 2008 from 6:30 - 9:00 p.m.
Staff will provide an ,agenda with descriptions of the various acts that will be
performing that evening. Commissioners will be introducing the acts as they
prepare to perform on the stage/dance floor, ask brief prepared questions to each
act after their performance, and present everyone with signed certificates from the
Mayor at the end of the show.
Motion - It was moved by Commissioner Sylk and seconded by Vice-Chairperson
Leidner to assign Commissioner Sylk and Commissioner Gassman to participate as
emcees for the Multi-Generational Talent Show. Motion carried unanimously.
2. Consideration of Naming the Centre Pointe Development Park
Golf & Parks Manager, Steve Howlett, explained that as part of the Centre Pointe
Development, located on the southeast corner of Washington Street and Miles
Avenue, a three acre park was constructed by the development contractor.
In August 2006, the Community Services Commission began park naming
discussions for recommendation to the City Council. Staff advertised the park
naming form and criteria in the La Quinta Gem and did not receive any completed
forms back. In February 2008, City staff sent a letter and Park Naming Submittal
Form to all residents within 500 feet of the park. All forms were to be returned by
March 29, 2008.
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Staff has not received any Park Naming Forms back. The Commission may wish to
recommend the name "Centre Pointe Park" to be considered by the City Council or
suggest another name be considered by the City Council.
Commission Sylk likes the name Centre Pointe Park, but would like to suggest
naming it after Mayor, Don Adolph.
Commissioner Long stated that staff has tried twice with no results and does not
think Mayor Adolph would accept the nomination, but would like him to feel
appreciated.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner suggested Mountain Vista because of the views.
Chairperson Weber stated that Centre Pointe makes sense, but doesn't sound real
attractive. He suggested Vista del Oro, Vista Alegra, or Mountain Vista.
Commissioner Quill asked what the new development is called where the trailer
park used to be on Miles Avenue. Commissioner Weber stated it is called Vista
Dunes. Director Hylton stated the development is called Vista Dunes Courtyard
Homes.
Golf & Parks Manager, Steve Howlett, stated that people usually identify parks
with their location.
Commissioner Long suggested Vista Pointe.
Golf & Parks Manager, Steve Howlett, stated that the park is on Seeley Drive.
Director Hylton stated that the Commission could call it Seeley Drive Park.
After a vote on the suggested names, the Commission concluded that Mountain
Vista Park, Vista Pointe Park, and Seeley Park would be recommended to the City
Council.
Motion - It was moved by Vice-Chairperson Leidner and seconded by
Commissioner Long to recommend "Mountain Vista Park," "Vista Pointe Park," and
"Seeley Park," with "Mountain Vista Park" being the majority vote, to the City
Council for consideration. Motion carried unanimously.
3. Consideration of Compensation to the Community Services Commission for
Special Meetings
Director Hylton stated that Commissioner Brodsky and Commissioner Long
requested that this topic be brought to the Commission for consideration. It was
suggested that compensation be given for the park tour and other special meetings
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held that discuss Community Services business. Director Hylton stated that
Chairperson Weber suggested that staff put a report together for the Commission's
review.
The La Quinta Municipal Code Section 2.06.050 Compensation states
"Compensation for boards, commissions, or committees shall be set by resolution
of the city council. (Ordinance 287 § 1(partl, 19961." Current compensation for the
Community Services Commission and other Boards and Commissions (with the
exception of the Planning Commission) are set at 575 a month. The compensation
for Boards and Commissions was discussed at the June 5, 2007 City Council
Meeting. This includes the Architectural and Landscape Review Committee,
Historic Preservation Board, Investment Advisory Board, and the Community
Services Commission.
Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Rancho Mirage, Cathedral City, Indian Wells, Desert
Hot Springs, and Indio have Commissions in which the primary function is similar to
the Community Services Commission in addressing park and recreation functions.
In Fiscal Year 2007-2008 the Community Services Commission has met once
beyond a regular scheduled meeting to take a tour of City Art in Public Places and
parks. The Community Services Commissioners attend events as ambassadors of
the City and to become familiar and make suggestions to the programs and
activities provided by the department.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner stated that he didn't know this was a paid position when
he originally applied and feels that the Commission should not be doing this with
the concern of what they will be paid. He does not recommend changing the
structure and feels that citizens should not be burdened with having to come up
with additional compensation.
Commissioner Brodsky stated that he disagrees with Vice-Chairperson Leidner.
The 575 was set five years ago and the City Council has given itself at least one
raise, if not two. The other cities do not do anything near the amount of events
that the City of La Quinta does. On February 23, 2008, Vice-Chairperson Leidner
called the meeting to order, Roll Call was done, the Commission performed its
services, and adjournment took place. He stated that the Commission should be
paid for every meeting. The City can afford to pay 5100 per month and for every
meeting.
Commissioner Quill stated she agrees with Vice-Chairperson Leidner. She stated
that the Planning Commission gets paid 5100 per month and they have to meet
twice a month. They work a lot more hours than the Community Services
Commission and it is a tough job. She suggested that the Commission could have
an optional parks meeting.
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Commissioner Long stated that he had no idea there was any money involved. He
doesn't want to be compared to most of the other cities in the Coachella Valley
except Indian Wells. The way the Resolution is written the Commission gets paid
every time they have a meeting as long as they do not spend over $75 per month.
The Commission did not meet in August and did not get paid. There is a paycheck
sitting out there that nobody is getting. The most important thing that the
Commission has done in the last couple of years is to go on the art and parks tour.
It lets the Commission see what is really going on and what really needs working
on and if you don't know those things you can't intelligently make decisions.
Every other year the Commission needs to look at the art pieces. Commissioner
Long suggested the Commission ask the City Council to allow 14 meetings per year
at $75 per meeting. The art and parks tour is very important if the Commission is
going to fulfill their obligations to say to the City Council that these are the things
that need to be done.
Commissioner Gassman stated that serving on the Commission is a privilege and
she did not apply to this Commission with any inclination that it would be funded.
However, when you have a meeting that has been noticed, roll call is made, there
is a call to order, and a group has to abide by the Brown Act, that is a meeting.
The Commission needs to make sure that if they ask for the additional sums that it
does not preclude them from taking additional tours. The concerns and thoughts
should be taken to City Council. Commissioner Gassman suggested having a
maximum of 12 to 14 meetings per year.
Commissioner Sylk stated that five years ago the Commission was not as
responsible of a Commission as they are today. With more responsibilities come
more time and more involvement. The Art and Parks tour was originally his idea
because he felt it was very important. The tour takes a lot longer than a regular
meeting. The Commission volunteers for other items that are within the
Commission to go to other places. The Art and Parks tour should be construed as
another meeting. Instead of going dark in August, he suggested adjourning the
meeting until the Art and Parks Tour. Commissioner Sylk recommended the
Commission be allowed full compensation for all Special Meetings.
Chairperson Weber stated that the Resolution states a monthly amount, not an
annual amount. The Planning Commission spends a lot of time outside of their
meetings and they have to adhere to zoning ordinances and California State laws.
The comparison to the cities was something that he asked staff for to have some
kind of relationship whether the City is comparable or not. The intent from City
Council's standpoint is that compensation was used to attract people to serve on
the Commission. The intent was to get enough applicants, not to compensate for
time. He recommended staff have a conversation with the City Manager or wait
and have the Commission speak to the City Council during the annual Joint
Meeting. He stated he does not feel this is a pressing item where he would feel
comfortable pushing it forward.
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Director Hylton stated that City Council discussed this during last Fiscal Year's
budget and determined to leave the Commission rates at their current rate.
Commissioner Long stated that the Commission is missing Commissioner Brodsky's
concern. The Commission has 12 meetings per year but gets paid for 11. If there
are only 11 meetings, then it is clearly within the scope of the original amount of
money to be spent to have one meeting which is allowed sometime in a month that
we can use for Parks or Art or whatever they need to do. He stated that he would
be happy with being able to have 12 meetings per year at $75 per meeting. The
City Council will see that this will not cost them anymore money.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner stated that 2 of the last 4 years the Commission did hold
August meetings.
Commissioner Quill stated that she does not want to limit the Commission to a
certain amount of meetings. The reason the Commission was compared to the
Planning Commission is because the Planning Commission only makes $50 per
meeting. If the Commission gave themselves more money, they would be making
more money than the Planning Commission, they meet twice a month, and have 22
meetings per year with earnings of $1,100. The Commission makes $825 per
year, which is actually more money than the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Long stated that the Commission is not asking for more money.
They are asking to expend all the money that the City Council has approved for one
year.
Commissioner Sylk asked if the Art and Parks Tour is considered a separate
meeting. If it is, then it should be on the docket as a separate meeting. If the
Commission is allowed to have a meeting in August, then they should be able to
adjourn it for a couple of months until they are ready to have the Art and Parks
Tour. As of now the Commission is having two meetings during that month and
only getting paid for one. Commissioner Sylk suggested selecting the Art and
Parks Tour to take place of the August meeting.
Commissioner Brodsky stated that statutes are made to be altered. There is no
question that the Art and Parks Tour is a meeting.
Chairperson Weber stated that the Art and Parks Tour is vital. The parks tour
should be held annually and the art tour every other year. Chairperson Weber
stated he feels that the Commission is being a little aggressive by pushing this to
City Council.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner asked if the annual joint meeting with the City Council is
in lieu of the normal monthly meeting. Director Hylton stated it is not. Vice-
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Chairperson Leidner asked why that is not an issue. He does not feel that the S75
has anything to do with attracting people to the Commission.
Commissioner Gassman stated that she would hate to see the tours precluded
because of the extra money. If it is a choice of calling it a meeting for which we
receive compensation or taking the tour of the parks and art, she would opt for
taking the tour.
Vice-Chairperson Leidner suggested the tours become a voluntary event as
opposed to a requirement.
Chairperson Weber suggested the tour be in lieu of a regular meeting.
Commissioner Sylk suggested that we set the meeting in lieu of the August
meeting but at a later date. Commissioner Gassman stated that the meeting has to
be given proper notice.
Director Hylton stated that the intent of the Resolution is that if you don't meet
during that month there is no payment. The non payment is not carried to another
month. Director Hylton suggested having a light agenda in the month of the tour,
meet for a short period of time for the business meeting and take the tour. The
tour is an important element of the Commission's knowledge, assessment, and
information to staff.
Commissioner Quill noted that the City Council never meant the $75 to be per
meeting, but per month. Some months the Commission spends half an hour per
month, some months they spend 8 hours. She likes the freedom of being able to
serve as needed.
Chairperson Weber stated that if we don't meet in August, we don't get paid
Motion - It was moved by Vice-Chairperson Leidner and seconded by
Commissioner Quill to recommend that no changes be brought forth to City Council
and that the Commission handle any meetings internally. Motion carried with
Commissioner Long, Commissioner Sylk, and Commissioner Brodsky opposing.
CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIALS
1 . Monthly Department Report for February 2008
Commissioner long noted on page 24, the Library Grand Re-Opening shows a
variance of "50" and should show "0."
Commissioner Gassman noted on page 29, second paragraph, third sentence, the
word "month" should read "month's."
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Commissioner Quill asked about the status of the Interactive Water Feature repair.
Golf & Parks Manager, Sieve Howlett, explained that the water feature was closed
due to vandalism. The Health Department recommended that staff use a non
porous surface. Staff is currently waiting for the Health Department's approval of
the two non porous surface submittals.
Commissioner Quill asked if there were any updates on the lights for La Quinta
Park, shade structure for the skate area, or water fountains. Director Hylton stated
that some of the Commission's recommendations were included as part of the next
fiscal year preliminary budget. The preliminary budget will be presented to the City
Council in June 2008 at which time the budget should be available for public
viewing.
2. Calendar of Monthly Events
Director Hylton stated that the Museum Grand Opening will be held at 2:00 pm.
Director Hylton explained that the City is still using the old City Seal for legal
documents, etc., and the new City Logo will be used for promotional items and
advertising.
Commissioner Quill asked about a banner to advertise for the Birthday picnic.
Director Hylton explained that staff is working on bids to do a complete signage
program.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
1. Reports from Commissioners Regarding Meetings Attended.
None.
OPEN DISCUSSION
Commissioner Sylk suggested that staff and Commissioner's names be listed in The
Gem in the Community Services section. Director Hylton stated that the Chamber
of Commerce prints The Gem and she would suggest it to the City Manager's
office.
In regards to the Cove Trails Plan, Commissioner Gassman stated that her husband
suggested color coding the trails with arrows in certain places to help reassure
people that they are on the right track.
Commissioner Long asked who is in charge of taking down the 25`" Anniversary
banners. Director Hylton stated that staff is in the process of designing new
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banners with the new logo and will be working with the Public Works Department
to get the old banners taken down once the new ones arrive.
Commissioner Gassman stated that when you are running for public office, there
are a certain number of days after the election by which you must have all your
signage down, the same thing should apply for the La Quinta Arts Foundation. The
sign south of Calle Tampico on Eisenhower Drive was there for weeks after the
event.
Commissioner Quill suggested having a bowl of candy at the Adult Egg Hunt for
people who are not able to get any eggs.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Long and seconded by Commissioner Sylk to
adjourn the Community Services Commission meeting at 7:07 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
NEXT MEETING INFORMATION:
A Regular Meeting of the Community Services Commission to be held on May 12,
2008 commencing at 5:30 p.m. at the La Quinta Study Session Room, 78-495
Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA 92253.
Submitted by:
Angela Guereque
Community Services Senior Secretary