2008 04 22 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
April 22, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
7:00 P.M.
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:03
p.m. by Chairman Ed Alderson who led the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Katie Barrows, Paul Quill, Robert Wilkinson, and
Chairman Ed Alderson. Absent: None.
C. Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Planning Manager David
Sawyer, Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston, Principal Engineer Ed
Wimmer, Principal Planner Andy Mogensen, and Executive Secretary
Carolyn Walker.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:
Mr. Matthew V. Johnson, 45-445 Portola Avenue, Suite 5, Palm Desert spoke
about the fact that he, and his neighbors, would like to see a gas station at
Avenue 50 and Jefferson Street.
III. PRESENTATION: None.
IV. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed.
V. CONSENT ITEMS:
A. Chairman Ed Alderson asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of
April 8, 2008. There being none, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Quill/Wilkinson to approve the minutes as submitted.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Quill, Wilkinson, and Vice Chairman
Alderson. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
Commissioner Barrows.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Tentative Parcel Map 35900 and Village Use Permit 2007-039; a request
of Prest Vuksic Architects for consideration of 1) the Subdivision of one
parcel into three parcels and, 2) Architecture and Landscaping Plans for
two 7,045 square toot, single-story office buildings located on the
northeast corner of Avenue 52 and Desert Club Drive.
Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report. Principal Planner Andy Mogensen presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
Department.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Quill asked if there were more parking spaces included in
this application than the previous one. Principal Planner Mogensen said
yes. He stated the applicant has agreed to a shared parking agreement
with a Covenant. They were only four spaces short of the spaces
required by the Municipal Code if the restaurant and offices were open at
the same time. Because they are so close to the minimum required, Staff
has agreed to both office and medical buildings if they have a shared use
with a covenant. The restaurant would be permitted to be open during
the evening and the office use would be limited to daytime hours only. If
the applicants want to add lunchtime operations, at the restaurant, the
Conditions of Approval states they would have to come back with a
parking study stating those operations would not create a parking
problem. The Planning Director would then have to approve the change in
order to remove the Covenant.
Chairman Alderson asked if the Planning Commission would have an
opportunity to review it. Staff said if the Planning Director deemed it was
necessary. Currently the applicant is only planning for general office use,
not medical.
Commissioner Quill asked if this was reciprocal parking for the two uses.
Staff replied Building A had its own small parking area, which
accommodated the weekday operations for offices.
Commissioner Barrows noted comments made by the Architecture and
Landscaping Review Committee (ALRC) regarding the desert-friendly
landscaping; specifically the bench areas. Staff replied the landscaping
plans showed those benches as well as a flat stone walkway. Staff
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added if you were to walk in from Desert Club Drive there would be some
seating outside of the restaurant.
Commissioner Barrows said the ALRC asked about walkability and the
use of the Village Design Guidelines. She wanted to know if this project
met those guidelines. Staff said the features were consistent with the
Guidelines.
Chairman Alderson asked what a "minimalist" parking structure was.
Principal Planner Mogensen said it consisted of a flat roof and no special
design features.
Chairman Alderson asked if the buildings matched the existing structures.
Staff said there was currently no office usage, only the Arnold Palmer
Restaurant which had some similar design features.
Chairman Alderson asked if the office buildings were mirror images. Staff
replied they were very similar, essentially having mirror image layouts.
Chairman Alderson asked what the additional parking requirements would
be if the applicant wanted to use these buildings as medical offices. Staff
was unsure what the requirements would be if both buildings were
designated as medical offices.
Staff said the medical office parking requirement is based on a slightly
higher square footage ratio than general office, but it would not be a
substantial increase because the office buildings were not very large.
There could be an additional ten or fifteen spaces required.
Chairman Alderson asked about the traffic study and asked if the layout
was going to be reconfigured to accommodate parking and the movement
of traffic. Staff said it could be reconfigured.
Chairman Alderson said a deceleration lane might be required if the
restaurant opened for lunch. Staff said the threshold, for Public Works'
deceleration lane requirement, would be 50 trips per hour. That was why
the studies were being required in advance of the uses, in order to give
the applicant a yes or no answer on the lane requirement. The
calculations had not been done yet.
Chairman Alderson asked if the new landscape was to be done in a
desert landscape motif, was the applicant going to replace the current
landscape in kind. Staff replied most of the landscape was currently in
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turf, but much of the area would be changed to desert landscaping.
Chairman Alderson suggested when the turf was being replaced the
applicant might consider using artificial turf. Staff said it had not been
discussed as the turf would not be replaced.
There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Alderson asked if the
applicant would like to address the Commission.
Mr. David Prest of Prest-Vuksic Architects, 44-530 San Pablo Avenue,
Suite 200, Palm Desert, introduced himself and said he was available to
answer any questions.
Commissioner Quill complimented Mr. Prest on addressing every issue of
concern from the previous submittal and the building and facility were
very good looking.
Commissioner Barrows referenced comments from the ALRC about the
use of deep eaves in dealing with the issue of heat retention on the west
and south sides of the buildings. She went on to say she was concerned
about the reduction of turf and didn't see any reason to retain the small
patch of grass. She suggested it would be better to eliminate that portion
of turf in favor of more trees to help shield the buildings. Even with the
eaves it will get pretty hot in the afternoon.
Mr. Prest replied the overhang was fairly deep and the south side was
pretty well protected. There was not much they could do with the west,
but the proper placement of trees would help.
Commissioner Barrows suggested Palo Verde be added on the west side
to create some additional screening.
Chairman Alderson asked Mr. Prest if he was okay with the Conditions of
Approval as recommended. Mr. Prest replied he was.
Chairman Alderson asked Mr. Prest if the application was approved
would construction begin as quickly as possible. Mr. Prest replied it
would.
Commissioner Quill said the turf identified behind Building B was
currently a putting green. He wanted to know if that use would remain.
Mr. Prest said yes it would remain, but be downsized. He added they
have worked on a lot of office complexes and there usually was very little
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landscaping left. This complex has a lot of landscaping and you could
easily maneuver around this project.
Chairman Alderson asked if there would be a problem with shielding all
the parking lot lights. Mr. Prest said they had already planned to do that.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any more applicant
representatives/comments. There being none, he asked if there was any
public comment.
Mr. A.P. "Skip" Lench, 78-285 Calle Cadiz, and 78-215 Calle Cadiz, said
he was representing the neighborhood of single-family homes in the area.
He, and another gentleman, met with David Chapman at his home and
over the phone, trying to reach a consensus with the concerns of the
neighbors as well as Mr. Chapman.
Mr. Lench was happy to report they were pleased overall with the
project. There were, however, still some outstanding issues: 1) When
Mr. Chapman originally proposed the project he advised them a portion of
the property along Desert Club Drive was zoned Village Commercial and
the balance was zoned residential. At that time, the neighbors had
qualms about a restaurant backing up to residential. Mr. Chapman
convinced them the view could also have been blocked by large homes
since single-family residences were also allowed. Several residents were
upset because they agreed to a restaurant, and were now facing the
addition of office buildings. 2) They met with Mr. Chapman, to come to
an agreement about the addition of his buildings while the neighbors
could maintain the residential feeling of their neighborhood. One of the
items they agreed to was a deed restriction so there would be no further
development on the property, i.e. buildings. They are requesting the
Planning Commission place a deed restriction on the property preventing
further development on the property.
Mr. Lench stated another unresolved issue was the light shining in their
back yards. Mr. Lench referenced the Architecture and Landscape Review
Committee (ALRC) action, Item No. 3 of the report where it states:
"Exterior lighting shall be consistent with Section 9.100.150 (Outdoor
Lighting) of the La Quinta Municipal Code. A bulb refractor or dimmer
shall be utilized with the proposed lantern fixtures if deemed necessary
by staff. All relocated freestanding lighting within the parking lot shall not
exceed the height of existing fixtures and shall be fitted with a visor if
deemed necessary by staff." He had concerns about the statement
"..fitted with a visor...". He said the prior Village Use Permit very
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specifically requested all the parking lot lighting be shielded and he
wanted that condition to continue.
Chairman Alderson asked if the lighting recommendations from the
previous meeting requested the shielding should be on the northerly
property line only. Mr. Lench said no, it was for the whole property.
Mr. Lench said he was pleased to see the carports were very minimal,
and said the neighbors wanted to make sure the lighting on the carports
would adhere to minimalism as well. He commented briefly on where the
parking structures were proposed; in the center of the parking lot as
opposed to the northern boundary with the parking structure next to
residences. He was pleased with the final location. He added they would
like to request a deed restriction on any future development of this
property.
Commissioner Quill asked Council how a deed restriction would be done.
Assistant City Attorney, Michael Houston said he had a couple of
observations. There would be a policy issue on whether the Planning
Commission would want to impose a restriction on future development.
This is an issue that imposes a condition but there are some legal
problems with that. The first of which would be, who would have the
enforcement right should the restriction be breached. He did not know if
it should be proposed that the adjacent residences have the right to
remedy the situation. That could eventually cause problems should an
application proceed with the City when the City would, in fact, possibly
incur liability or a third party would have the right to enforce that against
the City. The example being a future owner of the property. That owner
could go to the Council waving a deed restriction and then the City would
have a lawsuit. The other alternative would be the City would have the
right to enforce the deed restriction. This may not be within the purview
of the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Quill asked if the deed restriction would be in favor of the
property owners, or the City. Mr. Houston replied typically a deed
restriction, under California Law, has to have properties burdened and
properties benefited. So the question would be who is the property that
is benefited. It also would restrict the City in the future to some degree if
they decide to change the use of that property either through General
Plan or Zoning Changes. The final point being there was nothing
preventing the developer and the adjacent property owners to do this on
their own. In California Law there is a Nexus requirement that conditions
imposed on a project have a rational relationship. As a practical matter if
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there were lien holders they would be in a senior position to foreclose on
this property and that sort of provision (deed restriction) would require
the consent of the senior lien holders and they would probably not want
that put on the property.
Commissioner Quill asked if any future development plans required the
developer to come back to the City and provide the adjacent property
owners with an opportunity to voice their opinions. Staff replied yes.
Chairman Alderson said for all practical purposes this property would be
built out. Planning Director Les Johnson said it may be at the point of
full development, but redevelopment could lead to a variety of
opportunities.
Chairman Alderson asked Mr. Lench if he had additional questions.
Mr. Lench said since there seemed to be several legal issues regarding
deed restrictions perhaps staff could come up with a way so that every
two or three years the neighbors didn't have to come back to deal with
further disruptions in the neighborhood. He added, Mr. Chapman is
cognizant of the issue and expressed a willingness not to intrude further
upon the adjacent residences. He asked if there was a way to avoid
suddenly finding out there was going to be another structure overlooking
their back yards and wanted to be assured they would retain the single-
family neighborhood.
Chairman Alderson asked staff if any future development would be
subject to Planning Commission review and public notification since it
would give the neighbors an opportunity to come back and comment on
the application(s). Staff replied yes, they would be afforded an
opportunity to respond, through the public hearing process.
There being no further public comment, Chairman Alderson closed the
public participation portion of the meeting and opened the matter for
Commission discussion.
Commissioner Quill said it was a good submittal and there was nothing
he would change on this facility. He understood Commissioner Barrows'
comments but he did like the retention of the putting green as it is a very
active part of the Arnold Palmer restaurant. He was open for discussion
on the turf in front of Building A. Otherwise he was pleased with what
had been done to change the project. He proposed the Commission not
involve themselves in any of the deed restrictions as that should be
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between Mr. Chapman and the neighbors.
Commissioner Barrows said she concurred with Commissioner Quill's
comments and appreciated Mr. Lench's comments but didn't see any
way to address his concern on the deed restriction. She suggested the
turf in front be eliminated and put in artificial turf to save water usage.
There is still a lot of turf on the project overall, but there is a need to get
serious about water conservation. She suggested the developer could
put in more trees and benches.
Chairman Alderson said he supported the artificial turf issue. It was a
good idea and would cut down on water usage. The only other comment
he had was the occupation of the buildings. He had a problem with
approving additional office buildings with surrounding buildings half
vacant. This would create another situation where we have half vacant
office inventory He didn't know who was going to occupy the space,
but he stated in the current marketplace it is distasteful to build additional
speculative office space in an area with unoccupied office space.
There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Quill/Wilkinson to approve Resolution 2008-013
approving Tentative Parcel Map 35900, as recommended.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Quill, Wilkinson, and
Chairman Alderson. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Quill/Barrows to adopt Resolution 2008-014 approving
Village Use Permit 2007-039, as recommended and amended:
a. Add a condition stating addition of turf in front of
building A, at the corner of Avenue 52 and Desert Club
Drive either be replaced with another appropriate
landscape or an artificial turf-type of application with
some additional trees and shading for the west facing
side of that being provided as deemed appropriate and
approved by the Planning Director.
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ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Quill, Wilkinson, and
Chairman Alderson. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN:
None.
VII. BUSINESS ITEMS: None
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
IX. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
Planning Director Les Johnson explained why Commissioner Engle was not
present due to the requirements of attendance of the Commission as stated in
the City of La Quinta Municipal Code, Section 2.06.020B.
According to that Code section, Mr. Engle, is entitled to and has made a request
to Council for reinstatement to complete his term which ends June 30, 2008.
This item will go before City Council at the May 6, 2008, meeting. Staff will
provide all the Commissioners with the appropriate Municipal Code section as
well as a Commissioner attendance list. He stressed their need to make sure
they understood the Code provision for advance notification to the Council if
unable to attend a meeting.
Chairman Alderson then stated he will be unable to attend the next meeting as
he will be out of the country.
Chairman Alderson then gave a review of the City Council meeting last week,
which included the Eden Rock project. He said it was a very interesting meeting
and asked staff to go over some of the pertinent details of the Eden Rock
presentation.
Planning Director Les Johnson explained the land use/entitlement side of the
application. He pointed out highlights of the application/presentation which
included:
- Removal of the clubhouse and the clock tower, split pools and a
variety of miscellaneous changes as a result of the application in
January. The development team was responsive to those
requests.
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- The focus was on the development agreement and the fiscal side
of the agreement addressing the financial difference on that piece
of property as it had previously been designated as a hotel.
- There were some concerns about an annual fee being paid by PGA
west residents. There was discussion of the annual fee being
imposed on those units causing future residents of Eden Rock to
rent out the units.
- Discussion of the resale percentage paid captured by the City.
Estimates were a wash from the original proposal accepted by the
City staff.
- There was concern over the traffic study on Avenue 54 and
Jefferson. There was a condition in the EIR requiring a signal
being established. There was concern over the data collected.
There was a modification made to the conditions staff introduced
and that was approved requiring the payment the applicant would
have to pay and including the improvements in a two-set process.
- A signal would be added midway through the project, if warranted.
If not warranted there would be a second traffic study done to see
if it was needed. There would be a five-year limitation, if
warranted, or money back to the developer. The key issue is with
Madison Street now anticipating traffic patterns will change.
Commissioner Quill gave an example of an early builder in the area and the
transfer fee charged on a home sold in each of his developments. That was
ultimately challenged and the developer lost in court. Commissioner Quill said it
sounded like what the City was referring to was a transfer fee established on
each home. There would be an initial fee and subsequent sales charged a
transfer fee to help offset the T.O.T. He asked what made it possible for the
City to do that when private developers and Homeowners' Associations could
not.
Assistant City Attorney, Michael Houston, replied if done correctly, you can get
a transfer fee for a limited duration. The City will be doing a development
agreement process. A contracted agreement through the City and a third party
required us to be deed-restricted on the property which would be backfilled with
CC & R's that effectively require the payment. A negotiated provision for a
government entitlement to have it done that way. He also referenced the fact
the City does something similar to that in other contexts with respect to the
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affordable housing program. Through the City's Quiet Second Program
affordable housing is offered to a homebuyer and restrictions are put on who
they can sell to in the future. If they don't perform appropriately the City has
the right to come back and strip the profit.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Barrows/Wilkinson to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the
next regular meeting to be held on May 13, 2008. This regular meeting was adjourned
at 8:10 p.m. on April 22, 2008.
Respectfully submitted,
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Carolyn Walker, Executive Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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