2008 08 06 ALRC MinutesMINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
August 6, 2008 10:00 a.m.
CALL TO ORDER
A. This regular meeting of the Architecture and Landscaping
Review Committee was called to order at 10:02 a.m. by
Planning Manager David Sawyer who led the Committee in the
flag salute.
B. Committee Members present: Jason Arnold, Ronald Fitzpatrick,
and Ray Rooker.
C. Staff present: Planning Manager David Sawyer, Principal Planner
Stan Sawa, Principal Planner Andrew Mogensen, and Secretary
Monika Radeva.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Staff asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of July 2, 2008.
It was moved and seconded by Committee Members Fitzpatrick/Arnold
to approve the minutes as submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Final Landscaping Plans 2008-032 a request of Steve Olshan,
Project Architect, for the review of final landscaping plans for
the Plaza at Calle Tampico located at the northeast corner of
Calle Tampico and Desert Club Drive.
Principal Planner Andrew Mogensen presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Planning Department.
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Committee Member Ronald Fitzpatrick extolled the design,
landscaping, and plans of the project and said he appreciated
the applicant complying with the suggestions of the Committee.
He especially appreciated the pedestrian-friendly design which
included a water feature and an outside seating area.
Committee Member Ronald Fitzpatrick asked if the project
architect was from Santa Monica, California. Mr. Tom Cole
replied that the architect had extensive retail experience, which
was very beneficial due to the small size of the project and its
constraints.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick commented on the exposure of
the Shops 2 building to the direct afternoon sunlight and
questioned the lack of trees and plants to provide shading. Mr.
Cole explained the tenants for the building had not yet been
identified and expressed the applicant's concern of landscaping
that could block sign visibility and drive potential tenants away.
However, once the future tenants were established landscaping
could be installed to meet the tenants' needs.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick asked about bike racks being
provided. Principal Planner Andrew Mogensen replied that bike
racks were identified in two locations on the construction plans.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick inquired about adjustments made
to the outside seating area. Principal Planner Mogensen
explained the applicant had adjusted the hardscape, around the
central courtyard area, to accommodate an outdoor seating area
for a grocery store and any potential restaurant tenant for
Shops 1. He added the lighting for the project had been
adjusted accordingly.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick questioned the use of Star
Jasmine as it thrived only in partially shaded areas. Principal
Planner Mogensen replied the Star Jasmine would be placed on
the north elevations in the shaded areas, for example along the
wall on Springtime Way, which was almost always in shadow.
In addition, the north elevation of Shops 2 had a vertical trellis
on the pilasters with vines feasible for that type of shaded
environment.
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Committee Member Jason Arnold said he thought the plans
were very nicely done. He wanted to comment on the use of
Star Jasmine also, as the plant required a shaded area to thrive.
He suggested substituting it with Calliandra (Pink Powder Puff)
if there was inadequate shade for the Star Jasmine. He added
the two plants looked almost identical and most people couldn't
tell them apart.
Mr. Tom Cole, Director of Construction for Highland
Development Company, said he would mention the Committee's
suggestions to the applicant. Principal Planner Mogensen said
he had previously discussed the use of Star Jasmine with the
landscape architect and had confirmed that it would only be
placed on the north elevations of Shops 1 and 2, which would
provide the necessary shading for the plant to thrive.
Committee Member Ray Rooker said he viewed the intersection
of Desert Club Drive and Calle Tampico as a major downtown
area because of its proximity to Old Town La Quinta and the
token fountain across the street. Unfortunately, none of the
projects had put any emphasis on developing the corners at the
intersections and making them more appealing to visitors and
pedestrians. In future projects, Committee Member Rooker
would like to see a tendency towards the architectural
development of the street corners at major intersections in
proximity to the projects to highlight them.
Planning Manager David Sawyer commented that an enhanced
pedestrian environment at the corner of this project had been
discussed by the ALRC and the Planning Commission.
However, it was not included due to the traffic patterns and
proximity to the area. Another factor was the orientation of
the Fresh & Easy grocery store would have also had to be
adjusted.
Committee Member Ray Rooker expressed his dislike of the fact
that there would be a grocery store on a corner lot. This would
provide the view of the store wall on one side and the utility
drive-in on the back, which would add a negative connotation
with its truck traffic. He suggested a corner location would be
much better utilized by small shops due to visibility and signage,
as well as from an architectural standpoint as the shops would
have a more festive appearance for the community.
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Committee Member Ray Rooker pointed out that there were no
trees shown on the street elevation at the fountain at Calle
Tampico; however, the plans do show trees. Further, more
trees were shown directly above the entry at Calle Tampico
with no breaks. He suggested omitting a few of the palm trees
to promote pedestrian access. Staff replied that the continuous
palm trees along Calle Tampico were planned intentionally as
the mid-block crossing was discouraged. In addition, the trees
would hide the power transformer from view. Staff has tried
unsuccessfully to relocate the transformer.
Committee Member Rooker said he was disturbed by the lack of
trees on the back of the building. He said he realized the area
was mostly shaded and did not require more trees. He
encouraged the applicant from an aesthetic standpoint to place
a few trees along side the plain wall of the building, which
would not pose a signage obstruction for the tenants.
The applicant acknowledged Committee Member Rooker's
comments and agreed some landscaping should be put in place
along side the back wall; however, that would be done at a later
time when the tenants were identified.
Committee Member Rooker asked about the lighting of the
project as it was not indicated on the plans. Staff replied the
lighting had already been approved through a separate building
permit as it was not a matter for the Architecture and
Landscaping Review Committee at this time to approve.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick asked if shielded lighting was
used. Staff replied all up-lighting had to be shielded and pointed
towards a plant or a building.
Planning Manager David Sawyer clarified the purpose of the
Architecture and Landscape Review Committee meeting in
reviewing the Final Landscaping Plans was for the Committee to
determine whether the plans were consistent with the already
approved preliminary plans and conditions of approval. Despite
the excellent comments made by the Committee Members, they
would not be applicable at this development stage of the
project, but rather at the preliminary review stage. If the
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conditions of approval had left a door open for additional
suggestions then the comments could have been incorporated;
however, the Commission did not do that.
Planning Manager David Sawyer said that during next month's
meeting the Committee would be reviewing a couple of Site
Development Permit applications which is the appropriate time
for a thorough review of a project and recommendations to the
applicant. Committee Member Fitzpatrick asked if the
Committee could make suggestions to the applicant which
could later be enforced by the Planning Commission. Staff
replied that the Final Landscaping Plans would not be reviewed
by the Planning Commission again and the Architecture and
Landscape Review Committee was the final approval the
applicant needed to move forward with construction of the
project. The Committee was to confirm the applicant had
complied with the recommendations and conditions posed
during the review and approval process.
Planning Manager David Sawyer added that a common practice
at this stage would be to have the plans approved by the
Planning Director; however, the City of La Quinta had elected to
have the Architecture and Landscape Review Committee to
make a recommendation to the Director prior to his signature.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick commented on the bareness of
the southern exposure and that something more should have
been done to protect the wall from the high temperatures,
besides only extending some of the trellises. Committee
Member Rooker asked if a suggestion could be made to the
applicant to modify the plans. Planning Manager David Sawyer
explained that the recommendations would be noted in the
minutes, and if there was a way, some minor adjustments might
be incorporated through the Planning Director's approval.
However, the Planning Director did not have the authority for
anything more than that as the plans had already been approved
by the Planning Commission and CVWD. The recommendations
made by the Architecture and Landscape Review Committee,
after reviewing the preliminary plans, had already been
presented to the Planning Commission. At that stage the
applicant could have either adjusted the plans and incorporated
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the recommendations or could have waited to find out the
decision of the Planning Commission as to if they would be
made a condition of approval.
There being no further questions, it was moved and seconded
by Committee Members Fitzpatrick/Arnold to adopt Minute
Motion 2008-016, recommending approval of Final Landscaping
Plans 2008-032. Unanimously approved.
B. Final Landscaping Plans 2008-034 a request of RGA Landscape
Architects, Inc. (Rob Parker) for Eisenhower Medical Center (Ali
Tourkaman), for the review of final landscaping plans for the
Eisenhower Ambulatory Care Center located at the southeast
corner of Washington Street and Seeley Drive within the Centre
Pointe project area.
Principal Planner Stan Sawa presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Planning Department.
Principal Planner Stan Sawa introduced the applicant's
representative, Rob Parker with RGA Landscape Architects, Inc.
Committee Member Ronald Fitzpatrick thanked staff for
providing very detailed information on the project and the
history of the building.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick said the project design was very
well balanced. All of the major elements were equally balanced
and the landscaping was abundant and lush. The plans showed
large setbacks and big planters in the parking area taking away
from the dominance of the asphalt. He liked the water feature
on the site and the landscaped island. He found the planting to
be very appropriate and in combination with the decorative
paving and the elegance of the buildings to achieve a much
softer and inviting look.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick asked if the words "ambulatory
care" meant that it was awalk-in clinic. Staff replied it was a
walk-in clinic, but it also incorporated a lot of other services.
Mr. Parker explained the clinic was afull-service, small scale
hospital to service patients located in the south end of the
valley. The clinic incorporated all services available at the main
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hospital campus in Rancho Mirage with the exception of
surgical facilities which would be part of the future extension
phase.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick asked if the applicant had held
community meetings and obtained community feedback. Mr.
Parker replied several community meetings were held at the
beginning stages of the project and many factors were taken
into consideration in the design of the plans. Mr. Parker pointed
out that the majority of the parking spaces were covered and
that the final plans presented to the Committee had been highly
upgraded from the originally submitted plans regarding the
number and size of plants in the project.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick commented on the high
elevation on Washington Street. Mr. Parker replied that was
one of the biggest challenges with the project. However,
retaining walls along the channel on that side were engineered
in conjunction with CVWD to accommodate the slope.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick questioned the water source for
the water feature. Mr. Parker replied the water feature would
be supplied by water pumped through a recycling system.
Committee Member Ray Rooker asked about the lighting of the
parking lot as it was not included in the plans. Mr. Parker
explained the plans included the landscaping lighting fixtures
only. The majority of the parking lot lighting was up underneath
the canopies, covering the parking stalls, which consisted of
shielded lights.
Committee Member Ray Rooker commented on the lack of
outside seating areas for staff and patients. Mr. Parker said the
original plans had a connection between the water feature and
the center island as a designated outside seating area, but the
applicant decided that was not the attention intended for the
center section. Mr. Parker mentioned there was a large area in
the front of the building with planters, which would serve as an
outside area for patients. Also, on the southeast corner of the
building there was an outside patio. The entire campus was
designated as non-smoking applicable to staff, patients, and
visitors. In addition, on the third floor, there was a large terrace
for the needs of physicians and employees. Further, Mr. Parker
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said that more outside areas might develop in the future as the
additional usage of the building evolved and the project
expanded and there was sufficient ground surface to
accommodate future seating areas.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick said the plans indicated the
project was beautifully landscaped even though it was not very
user-friendly. He asked if any plants could be incorporated into
the semi-circle area at the entry way. Mr. Parker replied that
issue was addressed with the applicant. The architect decided
not to use flowers in that area due to safety and other issues.
Committee Member Ronald Fitzpatrick asked if the applicant
would have any exhaust issues from Applebee's. Mr. Parker
replied there were no exhaust issues.
Committee Member Jason Arnold commented on the nice and
detailed execution of the plans which made them very easy to
read. He was pleased with the number of trees being planted,
over 200, and the size of them.
There being no further questions, it was moved and seconded
by Committee Members Rooker/Fitzpatrick to adopt Minute
Motion 2008-017, recommending approval of Final Landscaping
Plans 2008-034. Unanimously approved.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
Attendance Update:
Planning Manager David Sawyer mentioned that the attendance
update was attached and staff would like to include it quarterly
instead of monthly. The Committee did not have any objections.
VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS: None
VIII. PLANNING STAFF ITEMS:
Planning Commission Update:
Planning Manager David Sawyer said the Madison Square project
located at the northeast corner of Highway 111 and Dune Palms Road
was reviewed by the Planning Commission and it underwent an
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extensive discussion. The project was approved and it included the
majority of the ALRC recommendations, such as the sidewalks along
Dune Palms Road conditioned to be moved away from the curb due to
the project's proximity to La Quinta High School and the potential
school traffic.
Currently staff is coordinating efforts with the City of Indio, as well as
other local communities, with regards to a potential recreational trail
along the Whitewater wash. Due to the proximity of the project to
the wash, the Planning Commission asked for an access pedestrian
link to be placed from the interior of the project, between buildings 2
and 3, to the recreational trail.
Planning Commission asked for Palo Verde and Mesquite for the shade
tree pattern, and additional screening was required on the north side
of the building along the side of the wash. It was clarified that the
berms had to be three feet high measured from the top of the curb on
the parking lot side. There was a concern regarding the overflow
queue of cars that would come out of In-&-Out Burger, therefore, the
applicant was asked to extend out the berming along Highway 111,
the length of the frontage.
The proposed turf along the curb side was removed because it was
there only for aesthetics and it served no other recreational purpose.
However, the applicant was given the option to install some good
quality artificial turf.
Planning Commission asked that the approval of the Final Landscaping
Plans for this project be presented back to PC instead of the Planning
Director due to the numerous adjustments imposed on the applicant.
Committee Member Fitzpatrick asked if there were any comments on
the bollard lighting along Highway 111. Planning Manager Sawyer
replied there was a general discussion, but no adjustments were
enforced.
Committee Member Rooker asked if the Committee is to understand
that the use of turf for commercial developments was not
recommended. Planning Manager Sawyer replied the Planning
Commission's position is turf should have a dual purpose such as
recreational use for visitors and patrons of a development, in addition
to aesthetics. There is a tendency to avoid the use of turf merely for
aesthetics.
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Committee Member Arnold said the use of the Mesquite and Palo
Verde trees was not very popular due to the tendency of these types
of trees to fall over and break. However, he explained that this was a
problem only when single-trunk trees were used. The Mesquite and
Palo Verde multi-trunk trees would not be so fragile and there was not
an increase in cost in obtaining them. Planning Manager Sawyer
asked if there were certain types of Mesquites that were more prone
to grow as multi-trunk. Committee Member Arnold replied that there
was no tendency amongst the trees, it all depended on how the tree
was grown in the nursery.
Planning Manager Sawyer said he would look into the procedure rules
and find out if the Committee needed to appoint a Chairman and if so
the elections would be included in the next meeting's agenda.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Committee
Members Fitzpatrick/Rooker to adjourn this meeting of the Architectural and
Landscaping Review Committee to a Regular Meeting to be held on
September 3, 2008. This meeting was adjourned at 11:03 a.m. on August
6, 2008.
Respectfully su
MONIKA RADEVA
Secretary
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