2009 03 24 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
March 24, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
7:03 P.M.
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:03
p.m. by Chairman Ed Alderson who asked Commissioner Quill to lead
the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Katie Barrows, Paul Quill, Mark Weber, Robert
Wilkinson, and Chairman Ed Alderson.
C. Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Planning Manager David
Sawyer, Assistant City Attorney Michael Houston, Principal Planner
Andrew Mogensen, Assistant Planner Eric Ceja, and Executive
Secretary Carolyn Walker.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of the
Regular Planning Commission Meetings of February 24, 2009, and March
10, 2009; as well as the Special Joint Meeting of March 10, 2009 which
included the Planning Commission and the Architecture and Landscaping
Review Committee (ALRC). There being no changes, or corrections, it was
moved and seconded by Commissioners Barrows/Wilkinson to approve the
minutes as submitted. Unanimously approved.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Conditional Use Permit 2008-118; a request by Verizon Wireless for
consideration to allow the construction of a 72 foot high
telecommunications monopalm tower and 830 square foot equipment
shelter to be located at 54-001 Madison Street at Riverside County
Fire Station No. 70.
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Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report.
Assistant Planner Eric Ceja presented the staff report, a copy of which
is on file in the Planning Department.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any comments from the
Commissioners.
There being none, Chairman Alderson then asked if there were any
questions of staff.
The Commissioners asked for clarification of the service area chart as
shown on the overhead screen. Staff explained what each of the
color codes represented.
Commissioner Quill asked about the possible sharing of poles. Staff
explained the provisions of shared-use on towers and the difficulty of
screening additional antennas with this type of tower design.
There being no further questions of the staff, Chairman Alderson
asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission.
Mr. Robert McCormick, representative for Verizon Wireless, 27 Via
Granada, Rolling Hills, California 90274, introduced himself and said
he was available to answer questions.
Chairman Alderson asked if he was comfortable with all the conditions
in the staff report, including the height limitation. Mr. McCormick said
he was. He then explained the design and operation of the monopalm,
and the height needs. He did say they would prefer to have the full
height of 72 feet, not the 55 feet as conditioned in the staff report.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked about the existing tower of 62 feet
and the reduction of the proposed tower to 55 feet. He asked for
clarification on the height deviation. Mr. McCormick explained the
need for a separation of height between the two towers.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked about the "after" picture shown on the
overhead screen, which included a white circled area. Mr. McCormick
explained that area was just to show where the towers would be
located. He then went over the whole map including the results
shown in the green area.
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Commissioner Quill asked if the client was doing a ground lease from
the County or the City. Mr. McCormick said it was from the City.
Chairman Alderson asked about the location on Spanish Bay. Mr.
McCormick stated their initial objective of coverage and explained why
they chose that particular area.
Commissioner Weber asked where the Verizon towers were located on
the map. Mr. McCormick pointed them out to the Commissioners.
Commissioner Weber asked if additional towers would be needed at a
future date. Mr. McCormick said they would and explained where
they would be needed.
Commissioner Weber asked about the other tower on the property and
if it was approximately the same height as this tower. Staff gave an
explanation of the other tower and its height.
Commissioner Weber said he went to the site and commented that
this tower would blend in well. He asked if the applicant was happy
with the height. Mr. McCormick said he accepts the conditioned
height but would prefer the height they initially requested and
explained how the tower worked. He also commented on the care
and concern of the nearby landscaping.
Commissioner Weber asked if the height restriction was included so
the project would be in compliance with the City's Municipal Code.
Staff explained the Code, as well as the co-location provision, and said
it was to reduce the overall impact of the towers on the surrounding
neighborhood views.
Commissioner Weber said there was obviously a concern if coverage
was degraded significantly.
There being no further questions, or public comment, Chairman
Alderson closed the public participation portion of the meeting and
opened the matter for Commission discussion.
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There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Quill/Wilkinson to approve Resolution 2009-010
recommending approval of Conditional Use Permit 2008-118 as
conditioned. Unanimously approved.
B. Sign Program 2009-1356; a request by Eisenhower Medical Center for
consideration of a proposed Sign Program for Eisenhower Medical
Center Identification and Monument Signage at the Centre Pointe
Development located at the southeast corner of Seeley Drive and
Washington Street.
Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report.
Assistant Planner Eric Ceja presented the staff report, a copy of which
is on file in the Planning Department.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Quill asked about visual impact, of the north facing
sign, on the adjacent residential area. Staff said the sign was south of
Seeley and referenced item number 3 on the map provided. Staff said
the sign actually faced northeast and would not be visible to homes
just to the east. Staff said there is some space between the building
and the existing neighborhood and it is anticipated there will be
additional development in between thus lessening the visual impact.
Commissioner Quill asked if nearby neighbors had received public
hearing notices, and were there any responses. Staff said they did
and staff received one phone call but it was of an inquiry-only nature.
Commissioner Weber asked about page three of the staff report and
the nearby Reunion Neighborhood. Staff said the Tract Map referred
to the neighborhood as the Reunion Neighborhood but it was actually
the Desert Pride development.
Commissioner Weber said the staff recommended the Express Clinic
signs be separated out. He asked if there had ever been similar sign
requests like that and asked for some background on the matter.
Staff said they haven't really seen this applied to very many projects
before but this project deals with medical use and there were
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provisions in the Sign Code that allowed it to be reviewed at staff
level. That was the reason it was not included in the staff report as
part of the overall Sign Program.
Chairman Alderson asked about the square footage of the signs and if
the square footage was within the limits of the City's Code. Staff
explained the Code and their findings that additional sign area was
needed to be architecturally compatible.
There being no further questions of the staff, Chairman Alderson
asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission.
Mr. Jim Cross with Best Signs (representing Eisenhower Medical
Center), 1515 Gene Autry Trail, Palm Springs, California, introduced
himself and offered to answer any questions.
Commissioner Weber said there was a question about the exact
location of the monument sign on Seeley Drive and asked if Mr. Cross
could clarify this question. Mr. Cross said they wanted to make sure
that the sign coincided with the landscape and was compatible with
the location of Seeley Drive. There is only one entrance into the
property so the sign would be close to the drive in the best visible
area and not obstructed by landscape and does not violate City code.
We know it will be at the entrance but cannot provide an exact site
plan at this time.
Commissioner Weber asked if the applicant was willing to work with
staff on this issue. Mr. Cross said he was.
Mr. Charles Morris, Project Manager for Eisenhower Medical Center,
39-000 Bob Hope Drive, Rancho Mirage, California, introduced himself
and offered to answer any questions.
Chairman Alderson asked if there was any public comment.
There being no further questions, or public comment, Chairman
Alderson closed the public participation portion of the meeting and
opened the matter for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Wilkinson commented on the two entrances on Seeley;
including the emergency entrance and asked if there was a sign
application for the second entrance. Mr. Cross said that was a fire
road and there would be no sign there. Commissioner Wilkinson
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asked if that was for emergency access only. Mr. Cross said it was
and they did not want to encourage the public's use of that road.
Commissioner Quill complimented the applicant on a very thorough set
of plans with good detail.
Chairman Alderson commented it was a fine looking sign.
There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Weber/Barrows to approve Minute Motion 2009-004
approving Sign Program 2009-1356 as conditioned. Unanimously
approved.
C. Sign Program 2006-1078, Amendment No. 1; a request by Highland
Development Sign Company for consideration to add an additional
freestanding monument sign for the Dunes Business Park located on
the north side of Highway 1 1 1, approximately 1,000 feet east of
Dune Palms Road.
Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report.
Planner Manager David Sawyer announced to the Commission that
since the writing of the staff report, a letter was received from one of
the site's property owners, expressing concerns regarding a conflict
with the application and the CC & R's of the Center. Staff presented a
memo referencing the letter and requested the item be continued to
April 14, 2009.
Chairman Alderson asked if the letter-writer, Mr. Lowden, was an
owner or a tenant. Staff said there were five buildings on the site and
he was the owner of the rear building. The letter mentions questions
regarding the number and usage of monument signs in the
development's CC & R's. He then requested an opportunity to work
with staff and the applicant to work out the details.
Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing.
There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Barrows/Wilkinson to continue Sign Program 2006-
1078, Amendment No. 1 to the meeting of April 14, 2009.
Unanimously approved.
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D. Zoning Code Amendment 2008-096; a request by staff for
consideration of the following amendments to the La Quinta Municipal
Code:
1. To update the list of established zones (9.20.010);
2. to identify the effective date for Low Density Residential
Zoned lots which are permitted a ten foot rear setback
(9.50.030);
3. to identify the correct Cove Residential minimum dwelling
unit size in Table 9-2 (9.50.030);
4. to identify provisions for the use of vinyl fencing
materials (9.50.090);
5. to correct the Guesthouse Provisions in the Residential
Table of Permitted Uses (9.60.100);
6. to require a Specific Plan in certain Commercial Zoning
Districts for all projects over ten acres in size (9.70.030
& 9.90.040);
7. to identify Tobacco, Off-Site Care Sales, and Ice Skating
Related Uses in the Non-Residential Table of Permitted
Uses (9.80.040-;
8. to establish Sunset Provisions for inactive and incomplete
applications (9.200.070 & 13.04.080);
9. to specify criteria for Modification by Application
procedures (9.200.090);
10. to correct the Mandatory Findings of Approval for
Tentative Tract Maps (13.12.130);
11. to specify the timing of land dedications and parkland
fees (13.48.080);
12. to correct and remove Parkland policy references to an
outdated version of the General Plan (13.48.090 and
Appendix to 13.48).
to effect locations City-wide.
Chairman Alderson asked for clarification of the distinction of the two
resolutions requested by the staff report. Staff responded the
resolutions referenced changes under Titles 9 and 13. The resolutions
were to be split accordingly.
With that clarification, Chairman Alderson then opened the public
hearing and asked for the staff report.
Principal Planner Andrew Mogensen presented the staff report, a copy
of which is on file in the Planning Department.
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Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Quill asked about the Parkland Fees issue, as he was
confused about the timing involved. He gave the example of today's
economic timing and how it could be advantageous to a developer. He
said he would like collection to remain at the time of the Tentative
Tract Map.
Commissioner Quill asked how the fees were calculated. Staff further
explained the assessment and timing on the assessments of the
properties.
Commissioner Quill asked if they were based on the Tax Assessor's
rolls. Planning Director Johnson said it was actually done by an
appraisal to assure an accurate representation.
Planning Director Johnson also stated that the City had previously
missed some Quimby Fee collection due to the timing of the
development of land. He added that in the current market, it is to the
advantage of the developer, and is not always to the advantage of the
City. He then explained the valuation would be done just prior to the
Final Map being brought before the City Council. He added, further,
there was a five year statute of limitation on the City being allowed to
use the collected Quimby fees. He also gave examples of fees being
paid and the final map not being recorded and how the City was now
responsible for refunding those fees.
Commissioner Quill commented on these economic times being
problematic and said developers could now max out their extensions
waiting to get the property sold or developed on Tentative Tract
Maps.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked about the scenario of a development
going back to the bank or receivership and asked if there was a point
where the fees were re-evaluated. Planning Director Johnson said
what staff proposed was that the valuation would be based on the
time of the Final Map and prior to City Council approval. The formula
and the amount would have to be approved prior to it being scheduled
for City Council's acceptance of the Final Map. Then what typically
happens is the fee is either paid prior or it is paid right after City
Council approval. There is a 30-day window from City Council
approval to secure all the Subdivision Improvement Agreement Bonds
and any other extenuating matters would have to be addressed,
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including a Quimby Fee payment, before an applicant can record their
map. He said there were a few situations where there was a map still
in the tentative state, which had not been finaled yet and explained
the status of those developments and the advantages/disadvantages
of the change in the Code.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked about the change in valuation on those
examples. Planning Director Johnson explained that staff did not
receive a current valuation as the developers did not do a current
appraisal. The then explained the procedure staff followed to establish
the valuation.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked staff if the Tentative Tract Map were
allowed to expire would the applicant have to come back, re-apply,
and start over with a current valuation. Staff responded if the
Tentative Tract Map expired they would have to start over again.
They would then be subject to requesting a refund of those dollars.
Once they go back to the entitlement stage of the map then the City
would address it accordingly. The key issue is the requested change
is a cleaner way of approaching it and getting a true valuation of the
property.
Commissioner Quill asked about the selection of Code sections for
update and said he was very impressed with staff's thoroughness. He
expressed the fact there had been various problems, in the past,
because of minor changes such as these not being updated.
Staff explained how the list was compiled and said the Zoning Code is
an evolving document. The Commissioners were alerted to the fact
they would be seeing future updates, possibly on an annual basis.
Commissioner Quill asked about the heavy restriction of ice skating
rinks and said they should be allowed in a more zoning areas. Principal
Planner Mogensen said the Table of Permitted Uses only identified the
zones outlined in the staff report. Discussion followed on each of the
zones listed and their uses followed by an explanation of staff's
methodology of how those items were listed on that Table.
Commissioner Quill commented on the current ice skating facility and
how it was adapted for this use. He commented on the possibility of a
large commercial building being vacated and becoming available for
use as an ice skating rink. He commented that would not be an
obtrusive use and outlined the possible nuisance issues. He added
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comments on allowing this use in a Tourist Commercial area and
wanted the allowance of this use to be opened up a bit more.
Chairman Alderson asked if an ice skating rink could, basically, be
placed anywhere if a Change of Zone was requested by the applicant.
Staff responded there was a caveat on districts and the change could
be reviewed by the Planning Director. The appropriate procedure
would be to apply for a Conditional Use Permit. Staff then explained
some of the problems they had experienced with the current ice
skating facility, but said these types of uses are regional draws and
they are open to whatever direction the Planning Commission wanted
to provide.
Commissioner Quill suggested it could be considered under "PR"
Zoning.
Commissioner Barrows had some concerns on the matter of vinyl
fencing and asked if there was any potential for the inclusion of
recycled wood. Staff responded there was specific criteria for the
types of wood which could be used.
Commissioner Quill commented on the possibility of using a product
such as Trex which is a composite wood and plastic product and
Commissioner Barrows stated it could be considered a type of wood.
Staff said it would be interpreted as compatible with vinyl.
Commissioner Barrows said she just wanted to make sure it was not
prohibited.
Chairman Alderson asked if it would be viewed positively. Staff
responded it would not be viewed from the street and would probably
be viewed positively.
Staff responded they could make sure the language would provide for
a product like Trex. Commissioner Barrows commented on the
addition of Trex or recycled wood products.
Staff asked if there was a specific name of that material; instead of a
brand name. Commissioner Quill responded it was a recycled
material.
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Commissioner Wilkinson said staff might want to include the word
reinforced, in reference to the vinyl fencing; as the product might
bend.
Commissioner Barrows said unreinforced vinyl had not been used
successfully around the nature preserve.
Chairman Alderson asked if the Commissioners could add a condition
to this Section. Planning Director Johnson suggested "recycled
products" be incorporated in with the vinyl fencing material. Staff will
take the information and research if further to make whatever changes
are necessary to make it work. Staff suggested the wording should
say "vinyl or similar recycled product."
Commissioner Barrows said yes, that would work.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked what areas the ten foot rear setback
applied to. Staff responded it was Low Density Residential.
Commissioner Wilkinson commented on the City's S.O.B. law and the
Assistant City Attorney Houston responded it was included in order
for the City to be able to regulate it.
There being no further questions of the staff, Chairman Alderson
noted the applicant was the City so there would be no introduction of
the applicant. He then asked if there was anyone from the public
present who wished to make any comments.
There being none, Chairman Alderson closed the public participation
portion of the meeting and opened the matter for Commission
discussion.
There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Barrows/Quill to approve Resolution 2009-011
recommending approval of Zoning Code Amendment 2008-096 with
the following additions:
1. Section 9.40.04 of the La Quinta Municipal Code which permits
wood fencing in the rear or interior side yards, and then only if
not visible from the street will be amended to include vinyl or
similar recycled material.
Unanimously approved.
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There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Barrows/Weber to approve Resolution 2009-012
recommending approval of Zoning Code Amendment 2008-096 as
submitted. Unanimously approved.
VI. BUSINESS ITEMS: None
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None
VIII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Chairman Alderson reported on the afternoon session of the City
Council meeting of March 17, 2009, including the discussion of
SilverRock
Commissioner Wilkinson reported on the evening session, including
details of the Monroe Dates and Mayer Villa Capri projects which were
previously approved by the Planning Commission.
B. Chairman Alderson noted he was scheduled to report back on the April
7, 2009, Council meeting.
D. Commissioner Quill suggested staff check the availability of a ULI
reference book which provides a definition of active adult
communities. He suggested this would be a very helpful book to
staff. Staff said they would look into it.
IX: DIRECTOR ITEMS:
A. Reminder of Planners Institute Conference beginning March 25, 2009.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Quill/Barrows to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the
next regular meeting to be held on April 14, 2009. This meeting was adjourned at
8:34 p.m. on March 24, 2009.
Respectfully submitted,
Carolyn V Iker, Executive Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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