2009 06 09 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
June 9, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
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7:03 P.M.
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:03
p.m. by Chairman Ed Alderson who asked Commissioner Weber to
lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Katie Barrows, Paul Quill, Mark Weber, Robert
Wilkinson, and Chairman Ed Alderson. (Commissioner Quill joined the
meeting at 7:07 p.m.)
C. Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Planning Manager David
Sawyer, City Attorney Kathy Jenson, Public Works Director Tim
Jonasson, Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer, Principal Planner Stan Sawa,
Principal Planner Andy Mogensen, and Executive Secretary Carolyn
Walker.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: None
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of April
28, 2009.
Staff presented a memo with three revisions to the minutes.
There being no further corrections it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Wilkinson/Barrows to approve the minutes, with inclusion of
the revisions from staff. Unanimously approved.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Site Development Permit 2006-868, Extension No. 1; a request by
REA La Quinta, LLC fora one-year extension of the approval of
architectural and landscaping plans for a 5,723 square foot
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freestanding building located on the north side of Highway 1 1 1,
1000' ± west of Jefferson Street in Jefferson Plaza.
Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report.
Staff distributed a memo, from Public Works Director Tim Jonasson
regarding a condition change to this project. Principal Planner Stan
Sawa discussed this change and presented the staff report. Copies of
both are on file in the Planning Department.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
There being none from the other Commissioners, he commented on
the changes submitted by the Public Works Department and asked
about the original application. Principal Engineer Ed Wimmer explained
Public Works laws change rapidly and this revision would bring the
application up to the current Municipal Code, as well as State and
Federal requirements.
Chairman Alderson asked if any of these changes would impose
substantial costs and was the applicant aware of it. Principal Engineer
Wimmer said there would be substantial costs and they would be
explained later in the meeting when the Municipal Separate Storm
Sewer System (MS4) permit overview was discussed. He did say the
applicant was aware that the extension would reflect the current State
law.
Discussion followed on general developer/applicant awareness of the
new guidelines and the usefulness of the MS4 handout (to be
presented later in the meetingl.
Commissioner Barrows asked staff about Condition No. 55 which
stated "The Chilean Mesquites shall be replaced with an alternate
deep rooting canopy tree appropriate for parking lots." She asked if
the reason for the change was because that species created
challenges because it didn't root well, and tended to blow over. Staff
responded that was correct.
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Commissioner Barrows added that it provided shade better than any
other parking lot tree. She asked if there was another mesquite which
could be used. She was concerned that a replacement would not
achieve the goal of shading the parking area as well as a mesquite.
She wondered if the problem could be resolved by deep watering of
the mesquite, but admitted that probably would not happen. Staff
replied there were two landscape-oriented members on the
Architecture and Landscaping Review Committee (ALRC) and, with
their knowledge and background; they should be able to choose a
suitable replacement tree.
Commissioner Quill and Commissioner Barrows then discussed various
mesquites including the Alba, and Arizona Mesquites; as well as the
Prosopis glandulosa. There was discussion of the possibility of
exploring different species of mesquite trees and the use of native
trees.
Chairman Alderson said the Commission would ultimately be seeing
the landscape plan on this project, but the current discussion should
be focused on the Site Development Permit issue. He suggested these
comments could be passed along to the project's landscape planner.
Planning Director Johnson advised the Commission that the final
landscape plans would not be coming back to them, unless they
included that as a condition. If not, it would be processed through
administrative review with involvement from the ALRC. He then
commented on the issue of trees, the past decisions by the ALRC, and
the drawbacks of planting mesquites.
Commissioner Barrows said she was not suggesting a change, but
bringing it up because a suitable replacement needed to be identified.
Planning Director Johnson said the use of different trees was now
being encouraged in parking lots. Generally mesquites were being
discouraged in favor of Acacias in particular and, on occasion, Palo
Verdes.
Chairman Alderson suggested Commissioner Barrows comments be
given to the ALRC and appropriate staff. Staff responded they would
do so.
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There being no further questions of the staff, Chairman Alderson
asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission.
Mr. .Douglas Digison, 2825 W. Keyes Lane, Anaheim, CA, introduced
himself and offered to answer any questions.
Commissioner Weber asked him if he had visited the site recently. Mr.
Digison said he had and it needed to be cleaned up. Commissioner
Weber asked if Mr. Digison was committed to taking care of the site
and getting it cleaned up. Mr. Digison said he was. Commissioner
Weber also commented on signage on the property. Mr. Digison said
the signage would come down.
Commissioner Weber commented on Condition No. 15 which
referenced reciprocal access easements and a mutual maintenance
agreement for perpetual maintenance of parking areas and drive aisles
within Parcel Map No. 28573. Mr. Digison said his understanding of
the condition was the same as the Commissioner's. He also added
they were currently in the process of developing CC&Rs.
Commissioner Weber expressed his concern about the entrance on
Depot Drive. Planning Director Johnson explained there were two in-
bound lanes with the right lane being aright-turn-only (eastbound) lane
towards IHOP and Home Depot.
Commissioner Weber commented on the two fan palms being removed
because of meandering sidewalks as well as the relocation of the drive
aisles. He was concerned about the safety issue of people coming in
on the right-hand turn while others would be trying to exit left there.
He said he would defer to the professionals, and didn't want to
condition anything right now. He did want to ask if there was a
potential change planned due to safety concerns.
Mr. Digison said he appreciated the comments and he could see where
there was concern about getting backup onto Depot Drive. Since the
issue was just raised to him, his initial reaction was to try and push
the drive aisle back to avoid having a dead end in back there, as that
would not be desirable. It lined up nicely with the drive aisle on the
opposite side of the east/west main access. He said he would like to
consider it a little since he would not lose parking but would remove
the dead end.
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Commissioner Weber asked if moving the potential trash enclosure, as
well as the aisle with five parking spaces to the west, would work
with the concept of having parking adjacent to the building. Mr.
Digison said if the trash enclosure was swapped he would be
concerned about access for trash trucks.
Additional discussion followed regarding the layout Commissioner
Weber was suggesting and the applicant's understanding of his
suggestions; culminating with Commissioner Weber's confirmation of
his understanding and saying the only problem he would have was
with alignment of the drive aisles.
Mr. Digison said only one entry did not line up with the drive aisles,
but he would be amenable to make the appropriate changes.
Commissioner Weber said he was happy the applicant would at least
consider it. Mr. Digison said it was not a bad solution. He then asked
where Commissioner Weber was suggesting they put the trash
enclosure. Commissioner Weber pointed out the location.
Commissioner Weber said he was still concerned that the drive aisles
were not aligned, but his real concern was safety issues with someone
making a slow left or right-hand turn.
Mr. Digison commented on his previous involvement in the northern
portion of this development and the fact that this situation had always
been of concern to him. He said he would be willing to look into the
matter.
Chairman Alderson asked if the layout change would alter the number
of parking spaces available and affect the applicant's parking ratio.
Planning Director Johnson said he would be reluctant to say the
applicant would retain the exact same number of stalls. Staff would
have to work with the applicant, but couldn't answer the question
without having something dimensioned out.
Chairman Alderson asked if they currently had a tenant. Mr. Digison
said they did not.
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Chairman Alderson asked if there was any public comment.
There being no further questions, or public comment, Chairman
Alderson closed the public participation portion of the meeting and
opened the matter for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Weber said a recent site visit showed the parking was
more than adequate on the north side of the actual parcel. He noted
that most of the retail area in Buildings A and C was occupied. He
said the parking seemed to be adequate whenever he visited the site,
but even if some parking was lost by reconfiguration at the retail
Building B location, there seemed to be more than adequate parking
there. He said his packet information noted that the parking there was
substantially more than required. Planning Director Johnson responded
there was an excessive amount of parking for the complex.
Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant had latitude to deal with
this. Staff said yes.
Chairman Alderson asked if the parking on that particular site was
based on the entire project, not just that lot. Staff responded it
excluded the Jack-In-The-Box and IHOP parcels, but the rest of the
project, even though separate parcels, was covered under a similar
development proposal.
There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Weber/Quill to approve Resolution 2009-016
approving. Site Development Permit 2006-868, Extension No. 1 as
submitted, including the amendment to Condition No. 7 as requested
by the Public Works Department.
The Commissioners also encouraged, but did not condition, the
applicant to reconsider the layout on the current site plan.
Planning Director Johnson asked the Commission to clarify the
comment about the physical condition of the lot and direction for
remedial action. The Commissioners directed staff to contact the Code
Enforcement Department to work with the applicant to maintain the
City's landscape and signage standards.
Unanimously approved.
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B. Zoning Ordinance Amendment 2009-098; a request for consideration
of an Ordinance to 1) permit used car sales not associated with a new
car sales facility within the Regional Commercial Zoning District with
approval of a Conditional Use Permit, 2) to establish provisions for the
development of used car sales facilities, and 3) delete erroneous text
identified with the Automotive Uses portion of the Non-Residential
Table of Permitted Uses by City staff.
Chairman Alderson opened the public hearing and asked for the staff
report.
Principal Planner Andrew Mogensen presented the staff report, a copy
of which is on file in the Planning Department.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Wilkinson commented on Section 4, Storage and
Display; specifically the portion which discusses elevated display
areas, and its bearing on other existing dealerships. Staff responded
since they were under an existing specific plan, permitting their use,
they would essentially be grandfathered in. Many dealerships had
specific plans which permitted such things and this code was not
necessarily written with existing, but more with future, facilities in
mind
Commissioner Quill asked if this was primarily focused on trying to
enable the former Chrysler dealer to be able to sell used cars and stay
open. Staff said it would enable the former Chrysler dealership, but
was written with future purpose.
Commissioner Quill said right now this is almost like an emergency
legislation in a sense to try to enable them to stay in business and not
leave a large vacant dealership as had previously happened. Planning
Director Johnson said that was correct and this change was being
brought before the Commission to avoid the situation mentioned.
Commissioner Quill said he was in favor of anything the Commission
could do to allow them to continue in business and avoid having
another shuttered dealership. Also, sales tax revenue would be saved
for the City if this was approved without delay.
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Chairman Alderson commented on the Council's approval of the
Urgency Ordinance and .said the Commission was ratifying what
Council had already done. Planning Director Johnson said Council had
approved an Urgency Ordinance which allowed the dealer to submit a
conditional use permit application and to continue to remain open. The
dealer would still have to submit the conditional use permit and, in all
likelihood, they would be in front of the Commission by July or
August.
Commissioner Quill asked if the dealership would be shuttered during
that time. Staff responded they would not as the Urgency Ordinance
specifically allowed them to remain open.
Chairman Alderson asked if the existing screening was acceptable.
Staff responded it was.
Chairman Alderson asked if what he read in an article in The Desert
Sun, which stated the applicant was actively pursuing another
dealership, was true. Staff responded that when the applicant
reported to Council, he stated he had interviewed with three different
car manufacturers, was actively pursuing a new car franchise, and
saw this as an interim measure.
There being no further questions of the staff, and the applicant being
the City, Chairman Alderson asked if there was any public comment.
There being no further questions, or public comment, Chairman
Alderson closed the public participation portion of the meeting and
opened the matter for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Weber expressed his pride in the City and staff for
proactively addressing the issue and trying to do what they could to
preserve local businesses. He said this represented significant sales
tax revenue to the City. He then expressed his extreme displeasure
over the events that created a situation which caused cities to act in
an urgent manner to try to maintain their businesses. He added that he
thought it was a very appropriate thing for the City to do whatever it
could to support these folks and he was proud of the City of La Quinta
for working to maintain a vital commercial corridor.
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Discussion followed regarding the tragedy of the economic situation
that had caused this situation to occur and several Commissioners
expressed their displeasure at the fact that the Federal Government
could cause this to happen to cities and local businesses.
The Commissioners concurred on the fact that anything the
Commission, and the City, could do to help support local businesses
would be appropriate; especially since the Highway 111 Corridor was
so vital.
There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Quill/Weber to approve Resolution 2009-017
recommending approval of Zoning Ordinance Amendment 2009-098
as submitted. Unanimously approved.
VI. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Discussion regarding the Commission Summer Meeting Schedule.
After discussion of the planning calendar, the Commissioners voted to
go dark on August 25, 2009, and left open the option to include
August 11, 2009; dependent upon whether there were any scheduled
items for review.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
A. A letter from Mr. & Mrs. Wayne Wianecki was distributed to the
Commissioners. Staff commented that it was routed to the
Commissioners, for their knowledge, and to make them aware that
Public Works and the Planning Department were looking into the
Wianecki's concerns.
VIII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Report on City Council Meeting of May 5, 2009, from Commissioner
Quill.
B. Report on City Council Meeting of May 19, 2009 from Commissioner
Weber.
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C. Report on City Council Meeting of June 2, 2009 from Commissioner
Wilkinson.
D. Chairman Alderson noted he was scheduled to report back on the
June 16, 2009, Council meeting. He commented that the Council
would be discussing the appeal of a condition included in the Planning
Commission's decision on CUP 2008-112/SDP2008-905, Applicant:
Leslie Lippich. General discussion of this project followed.
E. Listing of Council Meeting Attendees.
A new attendee listing was provided to all Commissioners, a copy of
which is on file in the Planning Department.
F. Chairman Alderson commented on a previous a-mail sent to the
Commissioners regarding the election of the new Chair and Vice Chair.
He added the item was scheduled for the first meeting in July
(7/14/09) and would be discussed at that time.
IX: DIRECTOR ITEMS:
A. Planning Director Les Johnson presented the update of the County
Map for Tentative Parcel Map 34784.
A memorandum, discussing the update, was included in the
Commission packet, a copy of which is on file in the Planning
Department. Pertinent points of the Update were:
• This was an informational item and there was no Commission
action required.
• Staff had responded, with their concerns, to the Riverside
County Planning Commission several years ago and has done
the same again recently with a new submittal.
• It is a matter of making sure that we are identifying the City of
La Quinta standards since it was within the City's Sphere of
Influence; even though it is under the County's control, We do
want to make sure that we continue to comment "on the
record" of any inconsistencies with our standards in comparison
with developments being proposed.
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Commissioner Weber said he was glad the City was being
proactive and gave an example of one item staff commented on.
He complimented staff for their efforts. Staff responded they
would continue to comment on these items, in writing, and in
person.
B. Public Works Director, Tim Jonasson gave a presentation on the
Whitewater River Region Municipal Separate Storm Sewer System
(MS4) Permit Overview. A copy of the Power Point is on file in the
Planning Department. Pertinent points of the presentation were:
• The requirements have gotten more stringent.
• The requirements are mandated to cities by Federal Law.
• He explained the acronyms associated with storm water.
• He went over each of the handouts.
• The MS4 permit, adopted a year ago' in May, requires
compliance as of mid-June 2009 and an implementation of the
storm water management plan.
• Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) rules require BMP's be
maintained in perpetuity.
• The City is considered the local enforcement agency for this
permit and legal counsel has drafted an enabling ordinance for
the storm water requirements.
• The City is a co-permittee with the County being the principal
permittee.
• Penalties for violation can be very costly.
• The criteria are such that almost every project will need a
WQMP.
• The Planning Commission will probably see a lot of projects
come in with additional conditions placed upon them because of
these changes. There are ramifications to projects as they
move along
Commission comment followed with discussion on the following
pertinent points:
• The amount of storm water in the desert.
• Procedures for ensuring the quality of the nuisance water going
into the aquifer.
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• Concern about unfunded mandates and their effect on
developers.
• Clarification of the geographic area covered by the Regional
Water Quality Control Board.
• Differences between the various climate areas in Southern
California; e.g., coastal and arid.
• Indemnification of Coachella Valley Water District (CVWD~.
• Fees and perpetual maintenance.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Barrows/Weber to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the
next regular meeting to be held on June 23, 2009. This regular meeting was
adjourned at 8:34 p.m. on June 9, 2009.
Respectfully submitted,
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Carolyn alker, Executive Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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