2009 11 24 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
November 24, 2009 7:01 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. This meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 7:01
p.m. by Chairman Ed Alderson .who asked Commissioner Barrows to
lead the flag salute.
B. Present: Commissioners Katie Barrows, Paul Quill, Mark Weber, Robert
Wilkinson, and Chairman Ed Alderson.
Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Michael Houston, Planning Manager David Sawyer, Associate Planner
Jay Wuu,and Secretary Monika Radeva.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT:
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any changes to the minutes of
November 10, 2009.
Commissioner Weber asked the following typographical errors to be
corrected:
Page 10, Commissioner Items, C, second line, Hyndai should read Hyundai.
Page 10, Commissioner Items, D should read:
Commissioner Weber stated he wanted to say thanks to staff for clarification
on the housing a/ement item relating to guest houses, second units, and
casitas.
Page 10, Commissioner Items, E, first line, my should read may.
There being no further comments or corrections it was moved and seconded
by Commissioners Weber/Wilkinson to approve the minutes as corrected.
Unanimously approved.
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Commissioner Wilkinson asked for clarification that if the parking
study was conducted, it would not take into account the available on-
street parking to meet the code parking requirement. Staff said the
on-street parking spaces could be counted in.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked if on-street parking would create a
traffic hazard. Staff replied that Desert Club Drive was designed to
accommodate on-street parking in both directions and to allow for
two-lane traffic; Calle Cadiz was a little bit narrower. Staff anticipated
Desert Club Drive would be the more prominent focus for any
overflow parking due to its proximity to the main entrance. Staff
spoke with owners of the two most adjacent homes and both owners
were supportive of the reduced parking requirements allowing the
medical use. Staff said the owners of the adjacent vacant lots had
not been contacted since staff felt the significant impact would be to
the adjacent home owners.
Commissioner Wilkinson noted the aerial view showed that cars were
already being parked on one of the adjacent vacant lots. Staff said
they were unaware of the exact situation and suggested parking may
have been allowed due to on-going construction in the area when the
image was taken. Staff stated the vacant lot was not set up to serve
as a parking lot and, if that was to happen, the City would be
addressing this issue with the property owner.
Commissioner Wilkinson inquired about the size difference between a
standard parking space and the existing ones. Staff replied the sizes
were listed in the staff report on page #16. Commissioner Wilkinson
expressed a concern that there might be some unintended
consequences if the applicant was not held up to the code
requirements.
Commissioner Quill asked if the fee-in-lieu was being put aside for
some type of a parking structure for the Village or if it was being
rolled into the general fund. Planning Director Johnson replied that all
monies collected were being put aside specifically for future parking
improvements within the Village, such as land acquisition, actual
hardscape improvements for parking, or potentially more parking
structures being established as needed. He said nothing has been
done to date because the latest parking study identified that the
Village had more than adequate parking available.
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signed lease with Dr. Fraschetti, however, the lease included a
contingency pending Planning Commission approval.
Commissioner Weber asked staff if the applicant was in compliance
with the requirement of having 30% of the parking area covered. Mr.
Meade said he thought the applicant was in compliance with that
requirement. He asked staff to display the site plan for more
information. The site plan showed five covered parking spaces out of
17.
Commissioner Quill said his questions were more directed to staff. He
s stated he was a member on the Commission when the building was
originally approved in 2004. Even though parking was an issue at that
time because it did not provide the required 25 parking spaces for the
proposed uses, the building was approved because the consensus was
that it was located in the Village and the Commission felt that the
Village was over-parked. Further, the City was getting ready to
complete a parking study at that time which showed that The Village
had adequate parking. He asked staff if the required number of
parking spaces had increased because it would be used as a pediatric
office. Planning Director Johnson replied the medical office parking
standard was the same, regardless of the type of practitioner or
location within the community. Commissioner Quill said he
remembered that when the Commission approved the building in
2004, credit was given for on-street parking which was how the
requirement of 25 parking spaces was met. He asked staff why the
number of parking spaces had increased and the applicant was being
asked to incur fees for the difference. Staff replied the calculations
currently conducted were based on the off-street parking provisions
set forth for the proposed medical use.
Commissioner Quill said that the applicant was being penalized
because the rules had changed from when the building was originally
approved. Planning Director Johnson said there was a blanket
provision, specific to the Village District only, which allowed the
Commission to deviate from the established standards.
Commissioner Quill asked what the empirical basis was for the code
with respect to medical use parking requirements. Staff replied the
standards were established based on what was happening in the
industry at the time. For example, staff used data from the American
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Commissioner Weber asked where the $200,000 dollar fee-in-lieu
figure came from. Mr. Meade said it was an estimate of the number
of missing parking stalls times $15,000 per stall.
Commissioner Quill asked if the building was still owned by the
original owner, Skip Lench. Mr. Meade explained Skip Lench was the
Architect, the current owner purchased the building from Dr. Dixon
under the assumption that it was designated for medical use.
Chairman Alderson asked how the patients parking in the southern
parking lot would enter the building. Mr. Meade said there was a
walkway from the back entrance of the building to the parking lot.
Chairman Alderson asked if Dr. Fraschetti would have four separate
medical suites with different doctors. Mr. Meade replied the entire
space would be utilized by one doctor. Chairman Alderson wanted to
confirm that the parking would have to accommodate only one doctor
and his four to five patients per hour. Chairman Alderson said that
even though the applicant was not able to take into account the public
on-street parking available on Desert Club Drive, common sense
dictated that the parking would be available for that building as it was
a legal parking area. for the general public. He asked if the lease was
contingent upon Planning Commission approval. Mr. Meade confirmed
it was.
Commissioner Weber asked if the lease was contingent upon a
satisfactory resolution of the parking requirements or the change in
permitted use to allow for medical offices. Mr. Meade replied it was
the latter.
There being no further questions of the applicant, Chairman Alderson
opened the matter for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Barrows asked for clarification on the original approval
of the building in 2004. Staff described the original approval process
and the placement of the medical limitation. Commissioner Barrows
gave examples from the 2004 staff report stating that other
businesses within the Village had been granted parking reductions.
She said she was not very concerned about this application's parking
issue and explained why. She was, however, concerned about the
Village image with parking lot after parking lot. She stated she was
concerned that a tenant might be potentially required to pay for more
parking than it was appropriate for the location.
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Commissioner Weber said he was also supportive of the idea of
bringing in a pediatrician into the Village, but he wanted to emphasize
that he was concerned about setting a precedent. He noted that Calle
Cadiz was inadequate for additional parking because it was a
residential street. He said the Commission should make reasonable
concessions, but should also be very cautious in addressing this
matter and in setting a precedent.
Staff pointed out that a VUP could be treated as a CUP which would
give the Commission the ability to designate certain parking areas on
the site for employee parking if warranted. The Commission could
also condition the applicant to have the tenant comply with its
operational set up outlined in the second paragraph of the letter dated
November 9, 2009, as attachment #7.
Commissioner Quill said the precedent of allowing lesser parking in the
Village than required was already set back in 2004 because of the
reasons outlined by staff above. The Commission had a different
concept for the Village and felt it was overparked, and didn't need to
have additional parking. Commissioner Quill stated he remembered
the approval, but did not recall any specifics on the different types of
allowed uses for the building as being a significant part of the parking
concept. He said he was in support of setting the precedent that the
Commission would allow deviations from having seas of asphalt in the
Village. He commented that the building in question was never
designed as a retail space, it was always meant to be used as an
office space and this application was an opportunity not only to fill a
vacant building, but to put a pediatrician in the heart of the La Quinta
Cove. He said he did not foresee any possible issues with parking
availability.
Commissioner Wilkinson said he agreed with Commissioner Quill's
statement that the Commission had already set the precedent to
reduce the parking requirements for the Village. He said he viewed
the vacant lots in the Village as potential for businesses and traffic as
well. He asked staff for suggestions on solutions for parking such as
a VUP allowing for the Commission to condition the tenant to have
designated employee parking spaces. He asked if it was feasible to
identify employee parking at the parking lot on the other side of the
Village. He inquired if the City was working on any projects to provide
parking solutions. Staff replied that at this time the City was not
actively looking at the acquisition of property for additional parking.
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again. Chairman Alderson said this could also be tempered by the
upcoming staff's overall parking analysis. Staff replied it anticipated
that the analysis would give a good comprehensive assessment of the
peak demand of the activity.
Commissioner Weber asked if in the future staff could provide copies
of the previous minutes relevant to the case being reviewed. He said
the standards were established to safeguard the developer as well as
the City. He was concerned regarding the front parking lot because of
the stalls' inadequate size. He said he was trying to diligently look
through the process and be consistent in applying the City's
standards. He said he would be willing to support a motion that
would condition the dedicated parking spaces. He emphasized that
with it being unknown how the surrounding vacant parcels would be
developed the Commission might be setting standards that might not
be possible to be met in the future.
There was no further discussion and it was moved and seconded by
Commissioners Barrows/Quill to approve Resolution 2009-032
approving Modification By Applicant 2009-025 as amended below:
44. This Village Use Permit a/lows the construction of aone-story,
4,494 square foot commercial office building addition on a 0.41-acre
site with 17 on-site parking spaces. The original building area (Suite
1; approximately 1,450 square feet) shall consist only of general
office uses. Medical office uses shall be permitted only in the
additional expanded area of the building (Suites 2 - 51. Equally or less
intensive uses (based on parking standards in LQMC Section
9. 150.0601 are a/so permitted in the expanded area. No additional
parking spaces beyond those provided on-site are required as part of
the expansion of uses in Suites 2 - 5.
Emp/oyees of the medical use (Suites 2 - 51 shall park in the rear
parking area on Calle Cadiz. The front parking area, on Desert Club
Drive, shall be reserved for patient parking.
AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Quill, Wilkinson, and Chairman
Alderson. NOES: Commissioner Weber. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT:
None.
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• Locations of allowable use.
• Staff requested Commission's concurrence with the position
that particular uses such as golf carts, neighborhood electric
vehicles and/or scooters, categorized as motor vehicles, would
not fit in the same category as automobiles. That they would
be an outright permitted use within the three listed commercial
zoning districts with the exception that if there was to be an
outdoor display, it would be allowed via a Conditional Use
Permit application which would have to come before the
Commission for consideration. Staff asked the Commission to
either concur or modify this proposal, so that the next municipal
code update would properly identify it within the code
provisions.
• Commissioner Quill was supportive of staff's recommendation
and he thought the City should do anything possible to promote
alternative forms of transportation. He agreed that the outside
display of electric vehicles should be brought to the Commission
for consideration.
• Commissioner Quill asked staff to bring the issue of prohibiting
the use of private golf carts at the Silverrock Resort for City
Council consideration, in light of the fact that City Council
recently approved phase 1 of the golf cart plan allowing
residents to drive their private golf carts to the Silverrock
Resort.
• The Commission passed a motion concurring with staff's
interpretation on motor vehicles permitted uses, as described
above.
X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners
Wilkinson/Quill to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to the
next regular meeting to be held on December 8, 2009. This regular meeting was
adjourned at 8:33 p.m. on November 24, 2009.
Respectfully submitted,
1
Monika Rad va, Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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