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APPMIN 11 06 1995ART IN PUBLIC PLACES Ml?ETING MINUTES LA QUINTA CITY HALL -SESSION ROOM NOVEMBER 6, 1995 The regular meeting of the Art in Public; Places Commission was called to order at 3:11 P.M. by Chairman Nard. I. ROLL CALL: Commissioners Michele Klein, Elaine Reynolds, Rosita Shamis, John Walling, and Chairman Nard. (Commissioners Cazolyn Lair and Shazon Kennedy arrived late. Mayor Pro Tem Glenda Bangerter and Council Member Stan Sawa were present as Council representation for the art selection. STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Director Jerry Herman, and Executive Director Betty Sawyer II. CONSENT CALENDAR: A. Meeting Minutes. There being no corrections, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners Reynolds/Klein to approve the minutes of October 2, 1995, and October 19, 1995, as submitted. Unanimously approved. B. Financial Statement: Commissioner Reynolds asked if any development had occurred as there had been no change in the Financial Statement. Community Development Jerry Herman clarified haw this appeazed on the Financial Statement. There being no further comment, it was moved and seconded by Commissioners Klein/Shamis to approve the statement as submitted. III. PUBLIC COMMENT: A. Ms. Susan Benay, 53-68Ei Avenida Velasco shared comments that had been shazed with her from applicant Michael Kleinschmidt. She stated that when he was contacted by the Jury Conunittee member, he was questioned about his first proposal not his second proposal. Commissioner Walling clarified that during his conversation with Mr. Kleinschmidt he had his first proposal in front of him. After clarification by Mr. Kleiinschmidt, Commissioner Walling discussed the second proposal and felt he had obtained sufficient information to make his review. Commissioners Kennedy and Lair joined the meeting. APPI I-6 1 Art in Public Places Minutes November 6, 1995 IV. BUSINESS SESSION: A. Review and Discussion Re ag rding. Artist Selection for the La Quinta Village Shoppine Center. 1. Chairman Nard explained how the meeting would be conducted and asked Commissioner Walling to give the report of the Jury Committee. 2. Commissioner Walling gave a review of each of the artist submittals while staff gave a slide presentation of each artists work: a. The Watling Company -Commissioner Klein asked if the artwork consisted of stone. Chairman Nard explained the project. further. b. James Allen Preston -Commissioner Klein asked if the artist had submitted an actual proposal. Commissioner Shamis explained that he did not make a proposal as he felt his work was not within the budget. c. Susan Cooper -Chairman Nard explained that the cement castings would be made in different forms and explained the proposal further. d. Jon Barlow Hudson -Chairman Nard explained the proposal. e. Lester Wiese & Charles Martin -Questions were raised about a walkway down to the art piece and if the landscaping was part of the proposal. Chairman Nard gave more detail on the project. Commissioner Shamis explained the problem of utilizing water as it had been. explained to by the Public Works Department. Commissioner Lair asked who would maintain the landscaping. Commissioner Shamis stated it would be maintained by the City. Council Member Sniff stated the use of the water was an opinion and not necessarily a decision. Discussion followed regarding the use of water at the site (other than the retained water). f Michael Kleinschmidt -Council Member Sniff asked if the azch would span the basin. Commissioner Walling explained) the height and span of the proposal. g. Bill Ware - Commissioner Walling explained the proposal. Commissioner Lair asked how the pieces would rotate. Commissioner Klein asked the height of the mobile. Cormnissioner Walling stated the height was 20-feet. APPI 1-6 2 Art in Public Places Minutes November 6, 1995 h. Paul J. Berlier/Silva -Commissioner Walling explained that the use of water should be changed to acrylic and lights. Commissioner Kennedy asked about the size of the pots. Commissioner Walling explained they would be 13-feet high. Discussion followed regarding the height in relation to the depth of the basin and height of'the pots. I. Barbara Grygutis - It was explained that no actual submittal was made, but an expression of interest. Commissioner Lair skated it was not necessary to have a submittal for consideration. j. Buster Simpson - No actual theme was submitted, but ea;plained an idea he would like the Commission to consider. Commnissioner Shamis stated she had spoken with the artist and he was interested in working with the City. His national reputation and ability to work with a city to develop an idea to fit into the site is well known. Commissioner Lair stated it was a normal procedure for artists to show examples of their work and then work with a city t:o chose an art piece to be integrated into a site. k. Ron Pekar -Commissioner Shamis stated the artist's proposal was designed to be a garden with sculptures that would be made in images of the local plants. Mr. Pekar has shown his eagerness and desire to work with the City. 1. Steven R. Rieman -Commissioners discussed the height of the structure ~md what the public would see from the street level as driving by. Commissioner Shamis explained that the artist stressed the educational element of the design and the overall use of the site. He was aniother local artist who would be willing to work. with the City. 3. Commissioner Kennedy asked if the Commission's selection would be taken to a public forum. Staff explained the Commission was to make a choice and a recommendation to the Council. 4. Commissioner Kennedy stated she loved anything that has to do with the Village and was impressed with Susan Cooper's furniture. The Berlier/Silva art piece is very attractive and appealing, especially the idea of the piece being light at night. She would however, like to see the scale of the pots. Ms. Grygutis slides were very impressive. It appears to be landscape art and the retention basin lends itself to this. Mr. Rieman's artwork, consisting of concrete, would be hot during the summer and she would want to be sure it was attractive from the street. APPII-6 3 Art in Public Places Minutes November 6, 1995 5. Commissioner Lair stated she agreed with the Commission's recommendation. The Commission needs to make sure the Berlier/Silva art piece works from all direction; all view sides. Need to make sure the metal structure is engaging and not so austere. The site needs something that is original and unique to La Quinta. The smaller pot needs to be finished and asked how will it would be grounded to the earth. She was impressed that so many artists had put a lot more into the thinking process of their submittals. 6. Commissioner Reynolds stated she would like to see the pot designed by Berlier/Silva elevated higher. Shining the light on the water would be very effective. She would like to see a maquette of Mr. Rieman's proposal. Barbara Grygutis's work is beautiful and of quality, but the Commission needs to see an actual design. 7. Council Member Bangerter stated she could agree with both the Commission's recommendation as she felt both the proposals were equal. She would however, prefer Barbara Grygutis over Buster Simpson. 8. Commissioner Shamis stated she liked Ms. Grygutis' work, but she too would like to see zm actual submittal. Mr. Rieman's work is impressive and he produced work unique to the site. She had no objection to the representational artwork, but Rieman's art piece would be unique. 9. Commissioner Klein felt the Committee's selection was very good. Mr. Rieman was an excellent choice and his artwork was not only artistic, but would serve an educational purpose. Classes could be conducted on site. The Wiess/Martitr idea is unique, but she could see a problem with the terracing as well as the water feature. The Berlier/Silva piece needs to carve out the bottom of the pot to make it more appealing from the restaurant view. 10. Chairman Nard stated that after reviewing the slides, she felt Barbara Grygutis was very impressive. The incorporation of the landscaping with the artwork is impressive. Mr. Rieman draws the community in and it is functional as well as user friendly. The Berlier/Silva selection was an excellent job of representational artwork. I1. Commissioner Walling stated he agreed with Mr. Rieman's proposal as it was educational and the only proposal that utilizes the entire basin. The Berlier/Silva piece has a lot of charm and an opportunity of displaying symbolic artwork indigenous to the local Indian culture. Mr. Klei.nschmidt's submittal is a nice piece, but he has a concern with the abstractness being accepted by the public. Ms. Grygutis' work is nice, but Cormmissioner Walling was concerned that she did not submit an actual proposal and APPII-6 4 Art in Public Places Minutes November 6, 1995 whether she could meet the budget. 12. Council Member Sniff stated he was concerned about this being a retention basin. It must retain water and contain a pumping system designed to remove that water. It will however, have water at times. Therefore, he was concerned about artwork that would sit in the basin and whether or not the water would affeclt it. This needs to be given serious thought. Anything that is in the basin, must be prepared to deal with the potential damage to it. He stated he would like to have something that contains plant life in the basin and have something rise above it that will not be affected by the nmoff water. He felt Mr. Rieman's piece had commonality with the Louis De Martino work prepared fo:r the Civic Center. Both pieces aze very similar to each other. He had concerns as to whether or not the piece that stands up would be significant enough and not block the view into or out of the Center. The developer and development need to be considered as well. Need to consider the visibility of the corner that nothing obscures vehicular visibility. He would like to see something stand out of the retention basin more. The Berlier/Silva art piece needs to reduce the glistening look. They need to tone it down as it is excessively metallic. The pedestal does however, lift it up out of the basin. If the Commission wants something that is unique and utilizes the basin then Bal•baza Grygutis should be seriously considered. Her work is very impressive. 13. Commissioners asked to review Barbara Grygutis slides and discussed her work. Commissioners discussed short-listing the favored choices. Following discussion it was determined that Mr. Rieman, Berlier/Silva and Ms. Grygutis would be invited to come back and do a presentavion to the Commission. It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Kennedy/Shamis to send an invitation to three artists to present at. the APP meeting in December. 14. Commissioner Lair suggested that staff contact Ms. Grygutis to see if she would be able to design a proposal for the budget by their December meeting. Commissioner Kennedy asked that her motion be amended to include staff contacting Ms. Gtygutis. 15. Commissioner Lair asked if the subcommittee would conduct the review. Discussion follov~ed as to whether the subcommittee should short list and make a recommendation or let the entire Commission review and make a recommendation. 16. Commissioners asked that their suggests/concerns regarding each of the proposals be expressed to the artists. Mr. Berlier's piece should address the north view to the restaurant as well as the scale; check with the developer to APPI I-6 Art in Public Places Minutes November 6, 1995 see what has been set aside for landscaping/lighting; would Mr.:[Zieman's structure be able to withstand the runoff water. B. Potential Workshop Commissioner Lair stated she had been discussing with staff an idea for a workshop. They had researched the budget to see if funds would be available and there was rrioney for conferences that could be utilized to hold a workshop in January. It would consist of an evening orientation meeting and a one day workshop; maybe a Saturday. Depending on fimds, three presenters would be contacted to conduct the workshop with one presenter conducting the evening overall subject. Comtzrissioner Lair stated this was being presented to see if the Commission would be interested in conducting such a workshop. 2. Commissioner Sl amis stated she had attended a symposium put on by the City of Indio. It was presented for the purpose of discussing thc; economic structure of a city .and the use of art to bring life back to the city. Ms. Susan Benay went on to state that art was being used to resuscitate the city. People who understood history, were using art as the dynamics to move the economic base forward. Local speakers addressed the demographics of the area and a need to come together to share information. A group of artists, who had put a Cultural Plan together for the City, stated this ideas was about sharing information to incorporate cultural arts and expand an economic base. Indio, who was stripped down to its skeletal base, was hoping to revive the City through the use of cultural arts. The local government w;as working hand in hand with the artists to change the flavor of the communiity to make it economically viiable. This was happening in a lot of communities State- wide. 3. It was suggested staff check with the City of Indio to find out what their entire symposium would address. 4. Commissioner Lair stated the purpose of our workshop was educational. The Commission needs to educate the City staff, members of other boards and commissions, and local artists as to what "Public Art" is all about. The Commission needs to bring ideas to those who are in the decision making process to motivate them to integrate art into all aspects of development. In addition, Commissioners need to create incentives to encourage attendance. She suggested appointing a subcommittee to review and prepare an agenda. neec t-6 Art in Public Places Minutes November 6, ] 995 Following discussion, Commissioners Carolyn Lair, Michelle Kllein, Rosita Shamis, and staff were asked to prepare ideas for the workshop. V. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business it was moved and seconded by Committee Members Walling;/Reynolds to adjourn this meeting; ofthe Art in Public Places Committee to a regular meeting on December 4, 1995, at 3:00 P.M. This meeting of the Art in Public Places Committee was adjourned at 5:18 P.M. Unanimously approved. APPII-b 7