2010 05 13 ALRC MinutesMINUTES
ARCHITECTURE & LANDSCAPING REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78-495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
May 13, 2010 2:06 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
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A. This regular meeting of the Architecture and Landscaping Review
Committee was called to order at 2:06 p.m. by Planning Director
Les Johnson who led the Committee in the flag salute.
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Committee Members Present:
Ray Rooker and David Thoms
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Committee Member Absent
Jason Arnold
Staff present: Planning Director Les Johnson, Principal Planner
Andrew Mogensen, and Secretary Monika Radeva
PUBLIC COMMENT: None
CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Confirmed
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Staff asked if there were any changes to the Minutes of April 7, 2010.
There being no comments or corrections it was moved and seconded by
Committee Members Rooker/Thoms to approve the minutes as submitted.
Unanimously approved.
V. BUSINESS ITEMS:
A. Site Development Permit 2006-860 a request submitted by Prest-
Vuksic Architects for consideration of Architectural and
Landscaping Plans for a proposed church parking lot located on the
west side of Washington Street, between Avenues 47 and 48 1St.
Francis of Assisi Catholic Churchl.
Principal Planner Andrew Mogensen presented the information
contained in the staff report, a copy of which is on file in the
Planning Department.
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Committee Member Thoms said that ih the past it had been
indicated that eventually the frontage road alongside Washington
Street would be eliminated, re-directing traffic flow directly to
Washington Street, and converting that area into a retention basin.
Staff replied the plans for the church had gone through several
revisions and one included a new traffic signal and the re-direction
of traffic directly to Washington Street. However, the proposed
improvements, at this time, only addressed the additional parking
lot.
Planning Director Johnson explained that since the church was not
adding any additional building space, the traffic improvements
mentioned above were not triggered. The current improvements
were to convert the dirt lot, used for overflow parking, into a
permanent parking lot.
Committee Member Thoms asked staff to confirm that some time in
the future there was the potential that the frontage road would.
disappear. Staff replied that the frontage road, south of the main
entrance, was likely to be eliminated, if and when, the church
decided to undertake future site improvements. This would require
a new signalized intersection and a new access point for the church
that would be located further south on Washington Street.
Committee Member Thoms asked staff if in the meantime, for extra `
caution and to alleviate the traffic during service hours, the City
could place a stop sign at the end of the frontage road going
southbound. Staff replied the suggestion would be passed on to
the City's Public Works Department.
Committee Member Thoms said the parking lot was very well laid
out and he particularly liked the design of the planters. He
expressed concern about the strip planters as his past experiences
had shown that the plant materials .could not withstand the
pedestrian traffic. He recommended the applicant keep the
proposed trees, but eliminate the strip plants and shrubs in the
medians and replace them with some type of ground cover such as
decomposed granite.
Committee Member Thoms said he was displeased. ,with the
proposed high-pressure sodium and metal halide light fixtures for
the new and existing parking lots. He said the design of the light
fixtures should complement the theme of the building itself.- Staff
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noted the new temporary parking lot would not be lit unless it was
in use. Staff explained that the same types of light fixtures were
being used in both the existing and new parking lots. However, the
light fixtures at the entry way and along the driving aisle were a
modern-type lantern design with a visor which complemented the
building's architecture.
Committee Member Thoms said he noticed that the end islands in
the parking lot were projecting out 18 feet from the center island
and he suggested a reduction to 15 feet to alleviate getting in and
out of, the end parking spaces. Staff said the suggestion would be
discussed with the City's Public Works Department for possible
resolutions. Staff also noted that the intent was to try to keep the
planters as big as possible to ensure sufficient growth space for the
newly planted trees.
Mr. Mike Horton, Landscape Architect with HSA Design Group, 42-
635 Melanie Place, Suite 101, Palm Desert, CA 92211, introduced
himself. He noted it was unlikely the church's patrons would be
walking around the parking lot as they would only be attending, and
leaving, church services. He explained the applicant was concerned
that if there were no plant materials in the planters people would be
encouraged to walk through them creating a potential hazard. He
said the design included a pedestrian pathway at the end of the
parking lot leading towards the church. Mr. Horton said he believed
that most landscaping problems with .plants and shrubs were not
because of pedestrian traffic, but lack of proper maintenance. He
noted the church's existing parking lot planters had plant materials
in them and there had not been any maintenance issues.
Principal Planner Mogensen said staff had recommended the
applicant use bigger planters in the parking lot to allow the trees to
grow larger with equivalent canopies to provide more shade.
Committee Member Rooker asked what the width of the planters
was. Staff replied it was five feet wide.
Mr. John Vuksic, Architect with Prest Vuksic Architects, 44-530
San Pablo Avenue, Suite #200, Palm Desert, CA 92260,
introduced himself. He said the end planters also prevented
careless drivers from cutting the corner too close while turning and
possibly rear-ending the vehicle parked at the end. Staff noted the
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submitted plans had been reviewed by the City's Traffic Engineer
and the plans had been previously revised based on his comments.
Committee Member Thoms asked why the landscaping plans did
not include any proposed palm trees. Staff replied the reason no
palm trees were proposed was partially due to City code. A certain
percentage of the parking lot was required to be shaded and since
palm trees did not provide shade, other trees, better suited for
providing shade, were used instead. Staff also explained that the
tree 'planters were strategically placed throughout the parking lot so
that the tree canopies would spread over the parked cars. Planning
Director Johnson said the proposed landscaping was also meant to
soften the look of the parking lot as it was located higher than
Washington Street.
Committee Member Thoms said the selected Palo Verdes had very
thin foliage and in his opinion were not well suited for providing
shade. He noted that the same type of tree should be used
throughout the parking lot. Staff said the plans indicated a
consistency in the types of trees used.
Committee Member Rooker asked what the standard vehicle stall
size and. the drive aisle minimum size were. Staff replied the
standard vehicle size was nine feet by nineteen feet and the
minimum drive aisle size was twenty-four feet.
Committee Member Rooker said he would like to see landscape
improvements in 'the median strip between Washington Street and
the frontage road. He asked who was responsible for that area.
Staff replied the median was in the public right-of-way and the
City's Public Works Department was responsible for overseeing the
medians. Staff said his concerns would be passed on; however,
since the matter was not directly related to the church's proposed
improvement plans, staff suggested leaving this comment out of the
Committee's recommendations.
Committee Member Rooker said he would like to see some
landscaping consistency from Highway 1 1 1, continued south onto
both sides of Washington Street. He explained what type of trees
and palm trees were predominant and where additional ones could
be added.
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Committee Member Rooker said the transition from the existing
grassy landscaping to the new decomposed granite landscaping,
right at the entry way, was too drastic. He recommended putting
in a strip of turf at the corner to soften the transition and provide
aesthetic continuity.
Mr. Vuksic thanked the Committee for their review and comments
on the project. He said the applicant would be very receptive in
looking into reducing the length of the end planter as long as it did
not create a hazardous environment. He noted the proposed drive
aisle were not twenty-four feet, but twenty-six feet wide.
General discussion followed regarding the proposed size of the trees
and staff's recommendation. Staff said the gallon sizes proposed
by the applicant were acceptable with the understanding that staff
would be working with the landscape architect to ensure
compliance.
There being no further discussion, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Members Rooker/Thoms to adopt Minute Motion 2010-
002, recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2006-860
as submitted, with the following recommended suggestions:
• Reduce the length of the medians at the end of each parking
row.
• Shrubs and organic groundcover should be removed from all
planters and medians within the parking lot.
• All new parking lot lighting shall contain a consistent bulb
type.
• A row of Fan Palms shall be added along the Washington
Street frontage.
• The center island of the main church entrance shall be
modified to include a small water feature, the addition of
colorful shrubs and bushes, or a combination thereof.
• Turf in the planter, immediately south of the main church
entrance, shall be added, in order to provide aesthetic
continuity with the existing landscaping.
AYES: Committee Members Rooker and Thoms. NOES: None.
ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT: Committee Member Arnold.
VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL: None
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VII. COMMITTEE MEMBER ITEMS:
Committee Member Rooker said he thought it would be very convenient
for patrons of the Fresh & Easy grocery store, located at Plaza Tampico, if
diagonal parking was permitted along Calle Tampico in front of the
shopping center. Planning Director Johnson said the suggestion would be
discussed with the City's Public Works Department. He also explained
that the above suggestion might not be a viable option due to the City's
recent implementation of the Golf Cart Program which incorporated Calle
Tampico as one of the approved golf cart routes. If the parking spaces
were to be allowed, that part of the golf cart route would be eliminated.
Planning Director Johnson noted that the speed limit would also have to
be reduced to allow for vehicles to safely park and merge back into traffic.
Discussion followed regarding the southeast entrance to Plaza Tampico as
well as potential future tenants for the shopping center.
Committee Member Thoms asked if there were any improvements
underway for the Highway 1 1 1 and Washington Street intersection. Staff
replied no improvements were scheduled at this time.
Discussion followed about traffic concerns on Washington Street and
Highway 111, and unsafe right turn locations within the city.
VIII. PLANNING STAFF ITEMS:
Planning Director Johnson said there was no Planning Commission update.
He said he would ask the Planning administrative staff to give the
Committee a copy of the summary report prepared after each Planning
Commission meeting giving a brief overview of the items that were
presented and what decisions were made.
Discussion followed regarding the status of several of the undeveloped
shopping centers in the City (including Madison Square, as well as the La
Paloma senior housing project, the Vista Dunes affordable housing project,
and various other residential projects.
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IX. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved and seconded by
Committee Members Rooker/Thorns to adjourn this meeting of the
Architecture and Landscaping Review Committee to a Regular Meeting to
be held on June 2, 2010. This meeting was adjourned at 3:16 p.m. on
May 13, 2010.
Respectfully submitted,
MONIKA ~ADEVA
Secretary
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