2012 02 14 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78 -495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
February 14, 2012 7:03 p.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. A regular meeting of the La Quinta Planning Commission was called to
order at 7:03 p.m. by Chairman Alderson.
PRESENT: Commissioners Barrows, Weber, Wilkinson, Wright, and
Chairman Alderson.
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Les Johnson, City Attorney Kathy
Jenson, Planning Manager David Sawyer, Principal
Engineer Ed Wimmer, Associate Planner Jay Wuu,
and Executive Secretary Carolyn Walker.
IL PUBLIC COMMENT:
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA:
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Commissioner Weber noted the following amendment to the minutes of
January 24, 2012:
Page 14, Paragraph 1, line 3 should read:
He commented on the applicant having to share the access point with the
Chevron dealership and the difficulties that entails.
There being no further comments, or suggestions, it was moved by
Commissioners Weber /Barrows to approve the minutes, as amended.
Unanimously approved.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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Map 36421, Conditional Use Permit 2011-135, and Site Development
Permit 2011 -920: a request by the La Quinta Housing Authority &
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Redevelopment Agency for consideration of rehabilitation and
development plans for the Washington Street Apartments located on
the southeast corner of Washington Street and Hidden River Road.
Associate Planner Wuu presented the_ staff report, a copy of which is
on file in the Planning Department.
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Weber asked if the through -units were primarily the
new units. Staff responded they were.
Commissioner Weber asked if there was anything more that needed to
be added to the parking analysis; even with the addition of the 26
units. Staff responded there was not.
Commissioner Weber asked if there was a material sample of the
sheet metal fins. Staff said it was not included on the material
samples board, but they were included on updated slides.
General discussion followed on pilasters, the sheet metal fins and
illustrations of the project.
Commissioner Weber asked if the main entrance gate would be
coming back to the Commission for design finalization.
Planning Manager Sawyer said there would be a correction of width,
but it would not come back to the Commission.
Commissioner Weber commented about the staff report remarks on
sustainability; as well as whether the project was being designed to
LEEDs standards and certification.
General discussion followed regarding project design versus LEEDs
standards /certification; and the emphasis on cost efficiency for the
tenants.
General discussion followed on the painting of the utility transformers
and above - ground mounted equipment; as well as undergrounding the
92KV utility lines.
Commissioner Wright asked if Hidden River Road was a private road.
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Staff responded there are lettered lots defining it and it is private.
Chairman Alderson asked if any public comments had been raised
since the last meeting. Staff said no.
There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Alderson asked if
the applicant would like to speak.
Mr. Jon McMillen, RSG, 309 West Fourth Street, Santa Ana, CA,
introduced himself and said he was not the architect but would
answer the questions about the fins. He said, as you are travelling
along Washington Street, you will get the look of fence posts going by
and you will be able to read some kind of movement along that edge;
to break up the monotony of the long wall. The perforated fins are
not a single piece sheet metal coming out with sharp edges, but
would be bent softly at the edges so that if anybody did touch them
they would not get cut.
Commissioner Weber commented on the exhibit with the perforated
material, which looked similar to television pixels, and asked if the
pilasters (shown on the overhead exhibit) would be made out of that
material.
Mr. McMillen clarified the brownish pilasters which were not
supporting the roof structure, but the others, would be made out of
that material.
Mr. McMillen responded to the earlier LEED discussion saying he was
involved in the Vista Dunes project and explained how the LEED
portion of the project evolved.
General discussion followed on what LEED standards /certification
involves including the extra costs, and paperwork, as well as its
impact on future residents.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked about his previous concerns about
vibrations and noise from the suspended air conditioning unit in the
chimney area.
Mr. McMillen said they would be meeting soon with the Mechanical
Heating and Plumbing (MHP) team and would look at the existing
conditions and then discuss them with the architect.
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Commissioner Barrows asked if the fins were straight or angular.
Mr. McMillen said they were angular, and did have some form to them
as opposed to just a straight fin.
Commissioner Weber asked if Mr. McMillen learned anything
significant from the Vista Dunes Project that could be applied to this
project.
Mr. McMillen said yes and went on to comment about the venting
system, the thermal chimneys, and the hard surfaces used in place of
carpeting.
Commissioner Barrows was concerned about the operation of the
thermal chimneys since she was aware there were some problems
encountered with the ones in the City of Indian Wells project.
Mr. McMillen explained the Indian Wells project chimneys had an
electric motor operator and the problems encountered had to do with
dust collecting in the motor. The Vista Dunes thermal chimneys all
had manual cranks with long handles which were cumbersome to
utilize. At this project, it would be more like a house attic fan you
could turn on and it would mechanically assist the ventilation process
through the thermal chimney. All the natural heat that had naturally
risen to that high point would be exhausted by the flip of a fan and
open up all of the areas to ventilate properly.
Commissioner Barrows gave anecdotal evidence of her successful
experiences with the thermal chimney concept in her own home. She
added there are challenges with the design, but what has been
designed for this project sounds like a potentially very favorable
solution.
Commissioner Wright commented on traffic flow in and out from
Hidden River Road on to Washington and how dangerous it had been.
He noted since the oleanders had been trimmed, it made a huge
difference and in the line of sight. He said the trimming will probably
solve the problems we discussed.
Chairman Alderson concurred.
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There being no further questions of staff, or comments from the
applicant, Chairman Alderson asked if there was any public comment.
There being no public comment, Chairman Alderson closed the public
hearing and opened the matter for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Weber commented on how well this was designed as
well as his concern about pedestrians crossing a six -lane major
arterial. He was glad the City addressed each of the issues previously
raised by Mr. Bedard. He added he was proud of La Quinta for living
up to the responsibility of continuing to provide quality low- income
housing in spite of the current economic impediments.
Chairman Alderson stated he would like to make sure the shrubbery
would continue to be maintained.
Staff responded the property owner would maintain the shrubbery.
There being no further questions or discussion, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Barrows /Weber to adopt Resolution
2012 -003 recommending approval of Environmental Assessment
2011 -613 as conditioned in the staff report. AYES: Commissioners
Barrows, Weber, Wright, and Chairman Alderson. NOES;
Commissioner Wilkinson. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None.
There being no further questions or discussion, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Barrows /Wright to adopt Resolution
2012 -004 recommending approval of Tentative Parcel Map 36421 as
conditioned in the staff report. AYES: Commissioners Barrows,
Weber, Wright, and Chairman Alderson. NOES: Commissioner
Wilkinson. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None.
There being no further questions or discussion, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Barrows /Weber to adopt Resolution
2012 -005 recommending approval of Conditional Use Permit 2011-
135 as conditioned in the staff report. AYES: Commissioners
Barrows, Weber, Wright, and Chairman Alderson. NOES;
Commissioner Wilkinson. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None.
There being no further questions or discussion, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Barrows /Weber to adopt Resolution
2012 -006 recommending approval of Site Development Permit 2011-
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920 as conditioned in the staff
Barrows, Weber, Wright, and
Commissioner Wilkinson. ABSENT
VI. BUSINESS ITEM:
A. None.
report. AYES: Commissioners
Chairman Alderson. NOES;
None. ABSTAIN: None.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
A. None.
VIII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Report of the City Council Meeting of February 7, 2012.
B. Commissioner Wilkinson is scheduled to report back on the February
21, 2012, City Council meeting.
C. Chairman Alderson commented that he was proud to see that there
were four Planning Commissioners in attendance at the Council
meeting of February 7'.
D. Commissioner Wright said the La Quinta City Museum would be
holding an event on February 17, 2012, from 5:00 to 7:00, which
would include a discussion on the History of La Quinta led by some
historical figures: Judy Vossler, Tom Kennedy and Barbara Irwin.
E. Commissioner Barrows invited everyone to join the Wildflower Nature
Hike, on the Bear Creek Nature Trail, February 18, 2012 at 8:00 a.m.
IX: DIRECTOR ITEMS:
A. None.
X. ADJOURNMENT: I
There being no further business, it was moved by Commissioners
Wright /Weber to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to
the next regular meeting to be held on February 28, 2012. This regular
meeting was adjourned at 7:48 p.m. on February 14, 2012.
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Respectfully submitted,
Carolyn o y Executive Secretary
City of La Quinta, California