2012 07 10 PC MinutesMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A regular meeting held at the La Quinta City Hall
78 -495 Calle Tampico, La Quinta, CA
July 10, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
7:03 p.m.
A. A regular meeting of the La Quinta Planning Commission was called to
order at 7:03 p.m. by Chairman Alderson.
B. ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: Commissioners Barrows, Weber, *Wilkinson, Wright, and
Chairman Alderson.
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Les Johnson, Planning Manager
David Sawyer, Assistant Planner Eric Ceja, and
Executive Secretary Carolyn Walker.
II. PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
III. CONFIRMATION OF THE AGENDA: Chairman Alderson requested the
Election of a Chairperson and Vice Chairperson be moved to the end of
meeting to allow Commissioner Wilkinson an opportunity to comment and
vote.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR:
There being no comments, or suggestions, it was moved by Commissioners
Wright /Barrows to approve the minutes of June 26, 2012, as submitted.
AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Weber, Wright, and Chairman Alderson.
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Wilkinson. ABSTAIN: None.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Continued - Conditional Use Permit 2011 -138 a request by Crown
Castle — Susan Makinson- for consideration of Conditional Use Permit
for a Single Distributed Antenna System (DAS) at Eisenhower Park
located at the southeast corner of Eisenhower Drive and Calle Colima.
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Planning Director Johnson said the applicant requested a continuation
to July 24, 2012. The continuation was in regard to the potential
location and lease. The lease portion was scheduled to be heard by
the City Council on July 17, 2012, and there is the potential
(depending upon the outcome of that meeting) that it could be
continued again.
The public hearing portion of the meeting for this item was left open
from the January 26, 2012, meeting and would remain so since this
was a continued item.
There being no further questions or discussion, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Wright /Barrows recommending
continuation of Conditional Use Permit 2011 -138 to July 24, 2012,
as requested. AYES: Commissioners Barrows, Weber, Wright, and
Chairman Alderson. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner
Wilkinson. ABSTAIN: None.
'Commissioner Wilkinson arrived at 7:09 p.m.
VI. BUSINESS ITEM:
A. Continu — Appeal 2012 -00 — Director's Determination; a request
by Michael Pitts for consideration of appeal of Director's
Determination regarding the use of wood fencing along the front and
side yards in the La Quinta Cove, and specifically for the site located
at 51 -411 Avenida Villa.
Assistant Planner Eric Ceja presented the staff .report, a copy of which
is on file in the Planning Department
Chairman Alderson asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Weber asked for confirmation that Avenida Villa and the
alleyway were considered a City street /alleyway; maintained by the
City. Staff said that was correct.
Commissioner Weber asked for clarification as to whether the fence
was actually completed on April 2"' Staff said that was their
information. The Code Compliance officer issued a 10 -day courtesy
notice to come in for two items; 1). the fencing materials, and 2). lack
of building permit. So, apparently the fence was in place on that date.
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There being no further questions of staff, Chairman Alderson asked if
there were any questions of the applicant.
Mr. Michael Pitts, 51 -411 Avenida Villa, introduced himself and
commented on the reason he did not get a permit. He stated he called
and spoke with a female who informed him that he did not need a
permit because there was an existing smaller fence behind this fence.
That was why he did not apply for the permit. He also commented on
Code Compliance Officer Rodarte's claim the fence was put up on a
weekend. He said he had receipts from his fence contractor showing
it was put upon on March 27 -28, 2012 (weekdays).
Mr. Pitts had also prepared a booklet of photos and letters which he
passed around to the Commissioners. He stated it included signatures
of all of the neighbors on both streets; Mendoza and Villa. They
stated that the house and the property had never looked so great. He
commented on the problems he had with people parking on his
property over the July 4t' weekend and how he had to call the La
Quinta Police Department to remove people, as well as the two
officers on Segways who continued to patrol it. He then pointed out
examples of fences similar to his. He said he discussed, with staff,
the possibility of leaving the side fence and replacing the front with
wrought iron and post since he had gone through the expense of
planting ficus, putting in irrigation and treating the fence. He said
staff had suggested that he address this after the Commission
decision. Mr. Pitts then offered to answer any questions.
Commissioner Weber asked if a fence contractor had been hired to
install the fence.
Mr. Pitts said yes, it was a company from Perris, California. He added
that they also called over and spoke with a female at the permit desk
who stated that she didn't believe a permit was required. Mr. Pitts
said the contractor had called the same number he had.
Commissioner Weber commented on:
• Fencing contractors doing due diligence to safeguard their
clients.
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• He hoped Mr. Pitts and his contractor would have a
conversation about the responsibilities of the contractor;
including what was needed to do business in La Quinta.
• The Municipal Code is available, on -line, for anyone's use.
General discussion followed on:
• The department, or phone number, Mr. Pitts may have called.
• The size of the lot(s) in question; and whether this was a single
or double lot.
• The question of whether the adjoining lot, to the north, was a
buildable lot.
• The actual location of the wood fence; e.g., inside the
parameters of the single lot.
• Wood fences block walls and tagging.
• Homeowner maintenance of wood fences.
Commissioner Wilkinson asked if the applicant had any intentions of
building on, or selling, the adjacent parcel.
Mr. Pitts said not at this time and then explained his plans for the
property.
Chairman Alderson asked if the applicant was the tenant or the owner
of the property.
Mr. Pitts said he was in escrow for the purchase of the property from
the current owner.
Chairman Alderson clarified the situation of some fences being legal,
non - conforming and grandfathered in. Mr. Pitts' fence was illegally
installed using an illegal material.
Commissioner Wright asked staff if the north parcel were sold would
the side fence be considered to be of an appropriate material.
Planning Director Johnson said if proof was provided the side yard
fence was built on the property line, and the adjacent lot was a legal
lot then that would be considered an interior side yard fence.
Commissioner Wright reaffirmed that it had to be a separate parcel.
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Staff said yes, it had to be a legal separate parcel of property that
could be sold off and developed.
Mr. Pitts asked if this item could be continued to the July 24' meeting
so he could provide proof of the lot dimensions and fence placement.
Commissioner Wright said that would be something he could work on
with the Planning Department.
General discussion followed on:
• The possibility of removal of the wood fence portion, leaving
the frame and using another type of material.
• The use of wrought iron for the front portion of the fence.
Mr. Pitts said he had looked into using wrought iron for the front fence
because you would be able to see through it.
Mr. Pitts also stated that, at one time, there was a cement courtyard
which was built in 1937 with the house. They had realized there was
a previous fence around the courtyard because they found cement
footings that had been sawed off, under the ground, all the way
around the courtyard.
There being no further public comment, Chairman Alderson closed the
public hearing portion of the meeting and opened the matter for
Commission discussion.
Commissioner Wilkinson said apparently the contractor was not
involved enough in finding out the rules and regulations to come up
with the correct solution for his client. He did not know of a city in
the Coachella Valley that allowed a fence to be built without a permit
and none that allowed wood in the front. He was of the opinion that
the rules were correctly applied in this case.
Commissioner Wright said there are rules for a reason and that was to
protect property values from deteriorating any farther than they
already have. He asked staff if wrought iron was actually allowed.
Planning Director Johnson responded there was a provision which
stated ornamental iron and tubular steel fencing was allowed in the
front or street side yards.
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General discussion followed on:,
• The aesthetics of Mr. Pitts' fence.
• The possibility of the wood fence remaining if the north lot is a
separate and buildable lot.
• The applicant's remaining responsibility to apply for a building
permit and the fencing brought up to Code.
e The Commission's directive to rule on whether the Director's
Decision was correct; not the aesthetics of the project.
• The• possibility of the applicant working with staff on the
alternative materials for the front fencing.
• The dimensions of the lot(s).
Commissioner Weber asked if it was determined at a later date that
the north lot was a separate, marketable, lot would the Planning
Department take. a look at that
Planning Director Johnson said depending on the outcome of the
Commission's decision; they could work with Mr. Pitts. If he could
provide staff with information to show that it is a legally standing
independent lot, they would certainly take into consideration the
option of retaining that portion of the fence. ' However, they would
still require some screening be established because of the visibility of
the fence; but they would be willing 'to work with him on that
particular matter.
Commissioner Weber asked if there could be some mechanism put
into place to address the building of these illegal fences.
Planning Director Johnson said he would talk with the Building and
Safety Director and then commented further on legal, non - conforming
fences.
Commissioner Weber said he saw one glaring example of a vinyl piece
of latticework thrown on the side of a house being utilized as a fence.
He suggested there be a way of flagging these illegal building
activities; possibly when an owner comes in for a permit-to remodel
their home. The City could then address all the updated safety,
building, and materials issues. He contrasted that with Mr. Pitts'
fence which was aesthetically pleasing, but without a permit.
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There being no further questions or discussion, it was moved and
seconded by Commissioners Weber /Barrows to adopt Minute Motion
2012 -005 recommending the upholding of the Director's
Determination with regards to Appeal 2012 -008 as submitted.
Unanimously approved.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND WRITTEN MATERIAL:
A. None.
VIII. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A. Report of the City Council Meeting of July 3, 2012.
B. Commissioner Wilkinson is scheduled to attend the July 17, 2012,
City Council meeting.
C. Commissioner Weber asked about the APA Convention. Discussion
followed regarding the Conference in October. Planning Director
Johnson advised the Commissioners there had been no monies
budgeted for attendance. However, if any Commissioner was
interested in attending they were to contact him and he would follow
up on any available options.
D. ELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON: Katie Barrows was nominated and
approved for the position of Chairperson. Unanimously approved.
ELECTION OF VICE - CHAIRPERSON: Robert Wright was nominated
and approved for the position of Vice Chairperson. Unanimously
approved.
IX: DIRECTOR ITEMS:
A. Reminder about the General Plan Update Workshop on July 11, 2012,
in the Study Session Room, from 3:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. and 6:00
p.m. to 8:00 p.m. It would be held in an Open House format. All
Commissioners were invited to attend. Commissioners were told they
would be receiving a printed copy of the General Plan, at a later date,
but if they attended the workshop there would be copies available in
flash drive and CD format.
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X. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, it was moved by Commissioners
Wright /Barrows to adjourn this regular meeting of the Planning Commission
to the next regular meeting to be held on July 24, 2012. This regular
meeting was adjourned at 8:03 p.m. on July 10, 2012.
Respectfully submitted, .
Carolyn Wal r, Executive Secretary
City of La Quinta, California
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