2021-09-27 Elm Consulting - Field VisitSaturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:43:18 Pacific Daylight Time
Page 1 of 6
Subject:Re: Fwd: Coral Mountain Field visit
Date:Monday, September 27, 2021 at 1:54:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com
To:James Vaughn
CC:John Criste, Tony Locacciato, John Gamlin, Nicole Criste, Cheri Flores
Works for me.
On 2021-09-27 14:50, James Vaughn wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Thanks for the update. Let's please get the Zoom meeIng scheduled
> ASAP. Hopefully, since it is a Zoom meeIng, it can be scheduled this
> week.
>
> Since it will be a Zoom meeIng, is there any reason Tony and I
> shouldn't log-in and quietly observe? If that will make anyone
> uncomfortable, I do not need to a]end.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
> James D. Vaughn, Esq.
> Stowell, Zeilenga, Ruth, Vaughn & Treiger LLP
> jvaughn@szrlaw.com l www.szrlaw.com
> Office: 805.446.1496 l Direct: 805.446.7609 l Mobile 805.551.0688
>
> 4695 MacArthur Court 4590 East Thousand Oaks Blvd.
> Suite 200 Suite 100
> Newport Beach, CA 92660 Westlake Village, California 91362
>
>
> This e-mail is intended only for the individual or enIty to which it
> is addressed and may contain informaIon that is privileged,
> confidenIal and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you
> are not the intended recipient, any disseminaIon, distribuIon or
> copying of this communicaIon is strictly prohibited. If you have
> received this communicaIon in error, please noIfy us immediately by
> reply e-mail or phone (805) 446-1496, and delete or destroy all copies
> of the original message.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 1:46 PM
> To: John Criste <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>
> Cc: Tony Locacciato <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>; John
> Gamlin <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>; James Vaughn <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>;
> Nicole Criste <ncriste@terranovaplanning.com>; Cheri Flores
> <clflores@laquintaca.gov>
Page 2 of 6
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Coral Mountain Field visit
>
> All
>
> Heather Pert call late this morning about the field meeIng. She and
> her staff have requested that we do a zoom meeIng first, so that we
> all can collecIvely review le]er and concerns and then decide what
> needs further clarificaIon needs to be addressed in the field.
> Heather indicated they will move quickly to set up the meeIng aner
> the zoom call. I was not able to convince her we could accomplish all
> this quicker with a single field visit. I told her the City and Coral
> Mountain folks were pushing hard to get to the finish but wanted to
> make sure we address their concern but we need the meeIng to make
> that happen. Otherwise, we go into tradiIion iteraIve process with
> them where they ask for a li]le data, get the data, and then either
> let you know it either isn't the data they wanted or they just need
> addiIonal data - (I call it "bring me rock process"). I stalled out
> at that point with Heather, with her insisIng the zoom meeIng,
> followed by a quick/focused field meeIng would be the most efficient
> process to get resoluIon so that the process could go forward.
>
> Bo]om line, we need to either accomodate the two step process she is
> recommending or go around Heather. Based on my experience with
> current management structure at USFWS, it would be quicker to set up a
> zoom meeIng, followed immediately by a field meeIng. Let me know
> which way the group would like to go.
>
> Tom
>
> On 2021-09-27 13:58, John Criste wrote:
>> Tom:
>>
>> My week is just about booked.
>>
>> Could next week work?
>>
>> john
>>
>> John D. Criste, AICP
>>
>> Principal
>>
>> TERRA NOVA PLANNING & RESEARCH, INC.®
>>
>> 42635 Melanie Place, Suite 101
>>
>> Palm Desert, CA 92211
>>
>> Phone: 760-341-4800
>>
>> Email: jcriste@terranovaplanning.com
>>
>> Web Site: terranovaplanning.com
>>
Page 3 of 6
>> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com>
>> Date: Friday, September 24, 2021 at 9:43 AM
>> To: Tony Locacciato <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>, John
>> Gamlin <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>, James Vaughn <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>,
>> Nicole Criste <ncriste@terranovaplanning.com>, Cheri Flores
>> <clflores@laquintaca.gov>, John Criste <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>
>> All
>>
>> Heather indicated it would be someIme next week that I would hear
>> from
>> Jacob or Erin. They are finishing with other commi]ments. I have
>> message into both Jacob and Erin but in true CDFW fashion, enhanced by
>>
>> the shield of covid and working from home, no response. Sorry for
>> delay
>> but, as Tony has indicated, herding cats is problemaIc. I will keep
>> up
>> the vigil.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 2021-09-22 15:48, Thomas J. McGill wrote:
>>> All
>>>
>>> Doesn’t look like it’ll happen this week. I have a call into
>>> Heather to help define soon.
>>>
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: "Pert, Heather@Wildlife" <Heather.Pert@wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>> Date: September 22, 2021 at 11:27:48 AM PDT
>>>> To: tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com
>>>> Cc: Thomas McGill <tmcgill@rbf.com>, "Beck, Carly@Wildlife"
>>>> <Carly.Beck@wildlife.ca.gov>, "Schaeffer, Erin@Wildlife"
>>>> <Erin.Schaeffer@wildlife.ca.gov>, "Skaggs, Jacob@Wildlife"
>>>> <Jacob.Skaggs@wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>> Subject: RE: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>> They will reach out soon, Carly will not be a]ending so it will be
>>>> Jacob and Erin.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Heather
>>>>
>>>> Heather A. Pert
>>>> HabCon Inland South, Supervisor
>>>> Inland Deserts Region
>>>> 3602 Inland Empire Boulevard, Suite C-220
Page 4 of 6
>>>> Ontario, CA 91764
>>>> 858-395-9692
>>>>
>>>> **Please note that due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I will be working
>>>> remotely unIl further noIce.**
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulIng.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:58 AM
>>>> To: Pert, Heather@Wildlife <Heather.Pert@wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>> Cc: 'Thomas McGill' <tmcgill@rbf.com>; Beck, Carly@Wildlife
>>>> <Carly.Beck@wildlife.ca.gov>; Schaeffer, Erin@Wildlife
>>>> <Erin.Schaeffer@Wildlife.ca.gov>; Skaggs, Jacob@Wildlife
>>>> <Jacob.Skaggs@Wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>> Subject: Re: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>
>>>> WARNING: This message is from an external source. Verify the sender
>>>> and exercise cauIon when clicking links or opening a]achments.
>>>>
>>>> Heather
>>>>
>>>> I have sent several messages to Carly, Erin and Jacob but hav not
>>>> heard back from them. The Coral Mountain team, including the City
>>>> of La Quinta, are anxious to resolve the issue so that their
>>>> planning can go forward. My phone number was listed in the emails
>>>> for a return call to set up the meeIng. Hopefully, the emails have
>>>> gone through. Can I persuade you to have one of them give me a
>> call
>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 2021-09-20 16:15, Pert, Heather@Wildlife wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm resending as I may have sent this to the wrong email address
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> Tom - please see email below.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Heather
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
Page 5 of 6
>>>>> Heather A. Pert
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> HabCon Inland South, Supervisor
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Inland Deserts Region
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 3602 Inland Empire Boulevard, Suite C-220
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ontario, CA 91764
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 858-395-9692
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> **Please note that due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I will be working
>>>>
>>>>> remotely unIl further noIce.**
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Pert, Heather@Wildlife
>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:34 AM
>>>>
>>>>> To: Thomas McGill <tmcgill@rbf.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Cc: Carly Beck <Carly.Beck@wildlife.ca.gov>; Schaeffer,
>>>>> Erin@Wildlife
>>>>
>>>>> <Erin.Schaeffer@Wildlife.ca.gov>; Jacob Skaggs
>>>>
>>>>> (Jacob.Skaggs@Wildlife.ca.gov) <Jacob.Skaggs@Wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for calling about who will be the CDFW contact for the
>>>>> field
>>>>
Page 6 of 6
>>>>> visit for Coral Mountain. Please coordinate with Jacob, Erin, and
>>>>
>>>>> Carly on scheduling a site visit. You may want to see if Alicia
>>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> the Service can a]end as well to address MSHCP concerns.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Heather
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Heather A. Pert
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Senior Environmental ScienIst (Supervisor)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> California Department of Fish and Wildlife
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Inland Deserts Region
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 3602 Inland Empire Boulevard, Suite C-220
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ontario, CA 91764
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 858-395-9692
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> **Please note that due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I will be working
>>>>
>>>>> remotely unIl further noIce.**