2021-09-27 McGill - Field VisitSaturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:51:00 Pacific Daylight Time
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Subject:Re: Coral Mountain Field visit
Date:Monday, September 27, 2021 at 4:13:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com
To:James Vaughn
CC:John Criste, Cheri Flores, John Gamlin, Tony Locacciato, Nicole Criste, Kimberly Cuza
I just talked to Jacob Skaggs, CDFW, and locked down Wednesday at 4 pm.
We'll be talking to Jacob, Erin Schaeffer and maybe Heather. Jaob will
send out a Teams invite. Jacob asked if we could provide an agenda to
make the meeGng more producGve. I can put together an agenda from
their leZer but feel free to send me any items that need to be covered.
On 2021-09-27 16:55, James Vaughn wrote:
> Yes, let's book it. We will take John C. in whatever shape we can get
> him.
>
> --Jim
>
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> James D. Vaughn, Esq.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:55 PM
> To: John Criste <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>
> Cc: James Vaughn <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>; Cheri Flores
> <clflores@laquintaca.gov>; John Gamlin <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>;
> Tony Locacciato <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>; Nicole
> Criste <ncriste@terranovaplanning.com>; Kimberly Cuza
> <kcuza@terranovaplanning.com>
> Subject: Re: Coral Mountain Field visit
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>
> All
>
> Sounds like 4 pm Wednesday, as long as we can tolerate John's numb
> mouth and garbled talk.
>
> Tom
>
> On 2021-09-27 16:52, John Criste wrote:
>> Guys:
>>
>> I have a 2:15 denGst’s appointment, which is probably not going to be
>> fun…
>>
>> That said, if no one cares that my speech is more garbled than usual,
>> I can do a 4 PM zoom.
>>
>> John
>>
>> John D. Criste, AICP
>>
>> Principal
>>
>> TERRA NOVA PLANNING & RESEARCH, INC.®
>>
>> 42635 Melanie Place, Suite 101
>>
>> Palm Desert, CA 92211
>>
>> Phone: 760-341-4800
>>
>> Email: jcriste@terranovaplanning.com
>>
>> Web Site: terranovaplanning.com
>>
>> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com>
>> Date: Monday, September 27, 2021 at 3:46 PM
>> To: James Vaughn <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>
>> Cc: Cheri Flores <clflores@laquintaca.gov>, John Gamlin
>> <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>, John Criste
>> <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>, Tony Locacciato
>> <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>, Nicole Criste
>> <ncriste@terranovaplanning.com>
>> Subject: Re: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>
>> I like that Gme slot, as well. It's all on John Criste's shoulders.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 2021-09-27 16:43, James Vaughn wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> This Wednesday at 4:00 works for me. As long as John Criste can
>> make
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>>> it work, let’s book it.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Jim
>>>
>>> [3]
>>>
>>> James D. Vaughn, Esq.
>>>
>>> Stowell, Zeilenga, Ruth, Vaughn & Treiger LLP
>>>
>>> jvaughn@szrlaw.com l www.szrlaw.com [1] [3]
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>>> Office: 805.446.1496 l Direct: 805.446.7609 l Mobile 805.551.0688
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>>> Suite 200 Suite 100
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>>> From: Cheri Flores <clflores@laquintaca.gov>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:41 PM
>>> To: Thomas J. McGill <tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com>; John Gamlin
>>> <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>
>>> Cc: John Criste <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>; Tony Locacciato
>>> <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>; James Vaughn
>>> <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>; Nicole Criste (Contract Planner)
>>> <ncriste@Terranovaplanning.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>
>>> Wed at 4 works for me
>>>
>>> _Cheri L. Flores_ |_ Planning Manager_ City of La Quinta
>>> 78495 Calle Tampico La Quinta, CA 92253 Ph. 760-777-7067
>>>
>>> www.laquintaca.gov [2] [4]
>>>
>>> _PLEASE NOTE: City Hall is now open to the public during normal
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>>> COVID-19 safety and awareness. All public services conGnue to be
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>>> encouraged to uGlize these services when possible. Thank you. _
>>>
>>> From: Thomas J. McGill <tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 3:40 PM
>>> To: John Gamlin <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>
>>> Cc: John Criste <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>; Tony Locacciato
>>> <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>; James Vaughn
>>> <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>; Nicole Criste (Contract Planner)
>>> <ncriste@Terranovaplanning.com>; Cheri Flores
>>> <clflores@laquintaca.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>
>>> ** EXTERNAL: This message originated outside of the City of La
>> Quinta.
>>> Please use proper judgement and cauGon when opening aZachments,
>>> clicking links or responding to requests for informaGon. **
>>>
>>> Just heard back from Jacob. They are available tomorrow at 3:30 and
>>> Wednesday at 4. Does either of these rimes work sir everyone?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 2:13 PM, John Gamlin
>> <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am guessing the correct response is set up a Zoom meeGng as soon
>>>> as possible…
>>>>
>>>> John Gamlin
>>>>
>>>> 760-238-2443 mobile
>>>>
>>>> jgamlin@coralmountain.com
>>>>
>>>> Coral Mountain [1]
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail [2] for Windows 10
>>>>
>>>> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 2:09 PM
>>>> To: John Criste
>>>> Cc: Tony Locacciato; John Gamlin; James Vaughn; Nicole Criste;
>> Cheri
>>>> Flores
>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>
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>>>> All
>>>>
>>>> Heather Pert call late this morning about the field meeGng. She
>>>> and her staff have requested that we do a zoom meeGng first, so
>>>> that
>> we
>>>> all
>>>> can collecGvely review leZer and concerns and then decide what
>>>> needs further clarificaGon needs to be addressed in the field.
>>>> Heather indicated they will move quickly to set up the meeGng a{er
>>>> the zoom call. I was not able to convince her we could accomplish
>>>> all this quicker with a single field visit. I told her the City and
>>>> Coral Mountain folks were pushing hard to get to the finish but
>>>> wanted to make sure we address their concern but we need the meeGng
>>>> to make that happen. Otherwise, we go into tradiGion iteraGve
>>>> process with
>> them
>>>>
>>>> where they ask for a liZle data, get the data, and then either let
>>>> you know it either isn't the data they wanted or they just need
>>>> addiGonal data - (I call it "bring me rock process"). I stalled
>>>> out at that point with Heather, with her insisGng the zoom meeGng,
>>>> followed by a quick/focused field meeGng would be the most
>>>> efficient process to get resoluGon so that the process could go
>>>> forward.
>>>>
>>>> BoZom line, we need to either accomodate the two step process she
>>>> is recommending or go around Heather. Based on my experience with
>>>> current management structure at USFWS, it would be quicker to set up
>>>> a zoom meeGng, followed immediately by a field meeGng. Let me
>>>> know
>> which
>>>> way
>>>> the group would like to go.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 2021-09-27 13:58, John Criste wrote:
>>>>> Tom:
>>>>>
>>>>> My week is just about booked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could next week work?
>>>>>
>>>>> john
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Criste, AICP
>>>>>
>>>>> Principal
>>>>>
>>>>> TERRA NOVA PLANNING & RESEARCH, INC.®
>>>>>
>>>>> 42635 Melanie Place, Suite 101
>>>>>
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>>>>> Palm Desert, CA 92211
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: 760-341-4800
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: jcriste@terranovaplanning.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Web Site: terranovaplanning.com
>>>>>
>>>>> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com>
>>>>> Date: Friday, September 24, 2021 at 9:43 AM
>>>>> To: Tony Locacciato <TLocacciato@meridianconsultantsllc.com>, John
>>>>> Gamlin <jgamlin@coralmountain.com>, James Vaughn
>>>> <JVaughn@szrlaw.com>,
>>>>> Nicole Criste <ncriste@terranovaplanning.com>, Cheri Flores
>>>>> <clflores@laquintaca.gov>, John Criste
>>>> <jcriste@terranovaplanning.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>>
>>>>> All
>>>>>
>>>>> Heather indicated it would be someGme next week that I would hear
>>>>> from
>>>>> Jacob or Erin. They are finishing with other commiZments. I
>>>> have
>>>>> message into both Jacob and Erin but in true CDFW fashion,
>>>> enhanced by
>>>>>
>>>>> the shield of covid and working from home, no response. Sorry for
>>>>> delay but, as Tony has indicated, herding cats is problemaGc. I
>>>>> will
>>>> keep
>>>>> up
>>>>> the vigil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-09-22 15:48, Thomas J. McGill wrote:
>>>>>> All
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn’t look like it’ll happen this week. I have a call into
>>>>>> Heather to help define soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Pert, Heather@Wildlife" <Heather.Pert@wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>>>>> Date: September 22, 2021 at 11:27:48 AM PDT
>>>>>>> To: tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com
>>>>>>> Cc: Thomas McGill <tmcgill@rbf.com>, "Beck, Carly@Wildlife"
>>>>>>> <Carly.Beck@wildlife.ca.gov>, "Schaeffer, Erin@Wildlife"
>>>>>>> <Erin.Schaeffer@wildlife.ca.gov>, "Skaggs, Jacob@Wildlife"
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>>>>>>> <Jacob.Skaggs@wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>> They will reach out soon, Carly will not be aZending so it will
>>>> be
>>>>>>> Jacob and Erin.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Heather
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heather A. Pert
>>>>>>> HabCon Inland South, Supervisor
>>>>>>> Inland Deserts Region
>>>>>>> 3602 Inland Empire Boulevard, Suite C-220 Ontario, CA 91764
>>>>>>> 858-395-9692
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Please note that due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I will be
>>>> working
>>>>>>> remotely unGl further noGce.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com <tmcgill@elmtconsulGng.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:58 AM
>>>>>>> To: Pert, Heather@Wildlife <Heather.Pert@wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>>>>> Cc: 'Thomas McGill' <tmcgill@rbf.com>; Beck, Carly@Wildlife
>>>>>>> <Carly.Beck@wildlife.ca.gov>; Schaeffer, Erin@Wildlife
>>>>>>> <Erin.Schaeffer@Wildlife.ca.gov>; Skaggs, Jacob@Wildlife
>>>>>>> <Jacob.Skaggs@Wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WARNING: This message is from an external source. Verify the
>>>> sender
>>>>>>> and exercise cauGon when clicking links or opening aZachments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heather
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have sent several messages to Carly, Erin and Jacob but hav
>>>> not
>>>>>>> heard back from them. The Coral Mountain team, including the
>>>> City
>>>>>>> of La Quinta, are anxious to resolve the issue so that their
>>>>>>> planning can go forward. My phone number was listed in the
>>>> emails
>>>>>>> for a return call to set up the meeGng. Hopefully, the emails
>>>> have
>>>>>>> gone through. Can I persuade you to have one of them give me a
>>>>> call
>>>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2021-09-20 16:15, Pert, Heather@Wildlife wrote:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm resending as I may have sent this to the wrong email
>>>> address
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom - please see email below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heather
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heather A. Pert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HabCon Inland South, Supervisor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Inland Deserts Region
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3602 Inland Empire Boulevard, Suite C-220
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ontario, CA 91764
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 858-395-9692
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Please note that due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I will be
>>>> working
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> remotely unGl further noGce.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Pert, Heather@Wildlife
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:34 AM
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: Thomas McGill <tmcgill@rbf.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Carly Beck <Carly.Beck@wildlife.ca.gov>; Schaeffer,
>>>>>>>> Erin@Wildlife
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <Erin.Schaeffer@Wildlife.ca.gov>; Jacob Skaggs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Jacob.Skaggs@Wildlife.ca.gov) <Jacob.Skaggs@Wildlife.ca.gov>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Coral Mountain Field visit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for calling about who will be the CDFW contact for the
>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> visit for Coral Mountain. Please coordinate with Jacob, Erin,
>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carly on scheduling a site visit. You may want to see if
>>>> Alicia
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Service can aZend as well to address MSHCP concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heather
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heather A. Pert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Senior Environmental ScienGst (Supervisor)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> California Department of Fish and Wildlife
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Inland Deserts Region
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3602 Inland Empire Boulevard, Suite C-220
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ontario, CA 91764
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 858-395-9692
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Please note that due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I will be
>>>> working
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> remotely unGl further noGce.**
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] hZp://www.coralmountainlaquinta.com
>>> [2] hZps://go.microso{.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>>> [3] hZp://www.szrlaw.com/
>>> [4] hZp://www.laquintaca.gov/
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] hZp://www.szrlaw.com
>> [2] hZp://www.laquintaca.gov